We lost one of our own this week. Normally I don't try and censor, and probably never will again. All I ask is that you be respectful when talking about Eva, and to each other when discussing her. We all deal with loss in our own way.
I will not delete or remove posts that don't follow what I've asked. I just hope that you can show her the respect that she deserves.
RIP Eva Kipler.
1033 comments:
«Oldest ‹Older 1 – 200 of 1033 Newer› Newest»I was able to briefly work with Eva on a project. I remember how sweet she was and kind. I wish the best for her family. The community lost a long standing and well respected member. She will be missed.
I'm shocked and saddened to learn of Eva's death. She was a great community member and digiscrap designer. My thoughts and prayers are with her family and friends during this difficult time.
It is so hard to believe that Eva is gone. She was a truly kind soul. A talent gone much too soon.
Has anyone checked out TDF this month? What do you think of Mye de Leon's contribution? I am extremely disappointed in the preview. I am not sure how to use the papers since there doesn't appear to be anything else with them. They cry out for matching elements, not just stuff from my stash.
I am really disappointed, I got to the point I was going to cancel it and then they had two really decent months now it is dissappointment, to me the only thing good is Cindy S. Templates other than that it is a waste of money.
This month's TDF is awful. I don't even like Cindy's templates. I see nothing I'd waste time downloading.
Michelle Godin's is too dark.
Cindy's templates look like the same thing she puts out all the time. Nothing different at all.
Dawn by Design's color palette is cheap looking.
Amber Shaw's textures look fuzzy and weird.
Mye's preview is just the papers, but I assume there are elements. I don't like the colors.
Sausan's is a total waste.
Scotty Girl's papers look OK, but the elements are lacking (I understand that's the style, but it's not for me).
Just Jaimee's color palette is yuck, too. Maybe I'd feel differently if it were Spring, but it's not here.
Any decent blog trains started yet for DSD? Which ones are worth the time?
SO has a FB Hop and TDC has a FB/Blog Hop. The SO one is fine, all coordinates with the other freebies they will have during DSD. I haven't had time to look at the TDC one yet.
TDC one is lame - nothing matches. DHD has one, but the site is beyond slow. Gennifer is probably too busy laughing at people with Kami to worry about site speed. Gingerscraps has one and it all matches. Gotta Pixel has one that starts tomorrow. Oscraps is supposed to have freebies tomorrow, but not sure if it's a hop or what.
http://www.sweetshoppecommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67719
We all know who Darcy will pick. Why bother entering? LOL
#9 you're a bitter idiot. We get it. You don't like Kami. Guess what? No one cares. Gennifer did not say they were laughing AT anyone. Get the stick out of your ass.
#10 Exactly so. Since the summer games at SSD, I won't be entering anything there.
MDL's TDF preview is just the papers but I opened up the first zip and it's the elements. I would have been really annoyed if it'd been just papers. Actually, I'm annoyed because her doodled paisley elements, stamp, and swirl1 are all jaggy. Those are the only elements I've looked at. I'm afraid to look at more right now. (And I love Mye's work, so I'm quite disappointed since she was the designer I was looking forward to most this month.)
And yes, I liked GS's train and the SO "Block Party." Hopefully I'll be able to participate in SO's challenges so I can get some more elements--I didn't like some of the packs on fb.
#10 Exactly so. Since the summer games at SSD, I won't be entering anything there.
Don't be so vague. If you have something to say, say it. Passive aggressiveness doesn't become you.
http://www.sweetshoppecommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67719
We all know who Darcy will pick. Why bother entering? LOL
Obviously, we ALL don't know who she'll pick so fill us in or are you talking out your ass?
#10 Exactly so. Since the summer games at SSD, I won't be entering anything there.
Is it possible you're upset because your scrapping sucks and you didn't deserve to win?
#10 Exactly so. Since the summer games at SSD, I won't be entering anything there.
OMG, grow up! I hope you're not a parent.
http://www.sweetshoppecommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67719
We all know who Darcy will pick. Why bother entering? LOL
Get a grip. You sound like you're in elementary school, for goodness sakes.
#16- Some people didn't win based on talent. What's your point?
Well, it didn't take long for the Eva Kipler charity collab to come together. That was fast. Now are they going to do one for Hurricane Sandy?
#13- Her stuff is usually jagged.
How do you know they didn't win on talent? Scrapping talent is very subjective. Maybe you don't have any talent, in their opinion. That's my point. Got it?
#21 no it's not. I have 90 percent of her kits and they are not jagged. You have no clue.
Well, it didn't take long for the Eva Kipler charity collab to come together. That was fast. Now are they going to do one for Hurricane Sandy?
It must be a blast being you. I'll bet you're great fun at Christmas. Idiot.
Well, it didn't take long for the Eva Kipler charity collab to come together. That was fast. Now are they going to do one for Hurricane Sandy?
Why don't YOU do something charitable instead of being a catty bitch?
I'm guessing the last 10 comments or so are from the same person who is clearly on the rag... talk about needing a grip.
#25- You don't even know if I was asked or AM participating IN the collab do you? No. It was a statement saying that it was fast and asking if they were going to do a Hurricane Sandy collab next.
#13- Her stuff is usually jagged.
------
No it isn't.
I'm guessing the last 10 comments or so are from the same person ... talk about needing a grip.
-----
Yep, I agree. The lack of separating her replies to the comments is a bit of a giveaway, and they all sound the same.
#9, To be clear, I'm no longer affiliated with DHD. :)
can someone link to the charity kit for eva? i looked but didn't find anything.
It's in the planning stages still.
thanks #32, that makes more sense. from the OP it sounded like it was ready for purchase.
TDC one is lame - nothing matches. DHD has one, but the site is beyond slow. Gennifer is probably too busy laughing at people with Kami to worry about site speed. Gingerscraps has one and it all matches. Gotta Pixel has one that starts tomorrow. Oscraps is supposed to have freebies tomorrow, but not sure if it's a hop or what.
---
Your gratitude is showing.
Sure, nothing matches at TDC, but that's the beauty of it. There are templates, add-on's, element packs - what more do you want? Oh, wait. Something that matches, so you can come back and complain about the color or the pieces. I get it now.
Sausan's is a total waste.
----
Why is it a total waste? With the others, you gave a reason but not for this.
Why is it a total waste? With the others, you gave a reason but not for this.
-----------------------------
Probably because it's ugly as hell. I'm kicking myself (only lightly because it's only $5) for not cancelling my sub - usually i purchase after a few reveals then cancel the autobilling... forgot to last month! Would not have purchased any of this lot if I saw it in a store.
But why is it ugly? I don't sub so have no clue. Is it the colors, the style, what?
I generally like Sausan's stuff, but it can be hit or miss.
Ugly is subjective. Wait for the reveal to decide for yourself if you think it is ugly.
When is it usually revealed? I will check it then, thanks.
Maybe this will put any rumors to rest about Eva's death being faked.
http://www.memorialsolutions.com/sitemaker/sites/Family3/obit.cgi?user=788777Kipler
#41 - There were people who thought her death was faked?! Why on earth would anyone think that?
Because they are jerks who assume everyone is only out for a buck.
Out of respect they could have kept their suspicions to themselves and investigated quietly.
I think the suspicions were a bit understandable given the post made by her husband in the public forum. I thought it was unusual, too, but didn't think someone like Eva would fake something like that. Now, some other people, yes. I did find it odd her husband didn't know how to contact any of Eva's co-designers or Robin herself, though.
45 is young, but people die every day at all ages and she had children. It's important for both spouses and at least the person you've legally chosen as guardian of your children all know who to contact if something happens - whether you're 25 or 95.
I hope people take that away from this as well and put a plan in place. No matter how morbid you may think it, it needs to be done because any one of us could be gone tomorrow.
My husband wouldn't know how to contact anyone in my digital life, either. He also wouldn't think to post on the forum.
I've been thinking of a guardian for my child since she was born and I can't think of one person I'd trust enough to do the job :(
I did find it odd her husband didn't know how to contact any of Eva's co-designers or Robin herself, though.
------
It was probably just easier to post in the forum. My husband wouldn't know who to contact either in my digi life.
But even if it was flawless, some dumb ass on the blog still wouldn't it to be true and that it was just a way to boost sales.
You don't know who he may have contacted at SSD before he made that post. Julie Billingsley knew it was a heart attack, so maybe he contacted her?
Either way, there was no reason that they could have investigated without posting lies here. I agree that it was disrespectful.
My DH probably won't care about you digi bitches when I'm gone. I know it will cause a lot of smack because I'll just be gone one day and you all will think I just ran off with my profits.
#48 should read, "wouldn't believe it to be true"
(yeah, come get me grammar police!)
I did find it odd her husband didn't know how to contact any of Eva's co-designers or Robin herself, though.
___
From what I heard, he had emailed Robin and I think Sara and then posted. Not sure, but that's what I heard.
Maybe some good will come out of this sad moment of Eva passing away.
It will make you all think what will happen if suddenly I'm gone one day.
It's smart to have plans for worst case senario.You never know.
#2 I just saw the November Digi Files and I'm very disappointed. I wanted to cancel my subscription but thought that it's November and something good will come out but unfortunately it didn't.
I can't beleive how bad Michelle Godin's kit is.
And all the others are so blant and boring.
The only one that is ok is Just Jaimee's.
Gennifer - Yes, I'm nosy, why leave DHD?
You all do know that you don't have to have every single detail, right? A grieving husband was posting! Give some grace and stop scrutinizing a very sad thing that happened and the sequence of events that followed.
Someone you love will die some day. Do you want to be questioned for the communication steps you take in the midst of your grief?
When my dad passed from his heart attach, I was the one who had to make all the calls etc. Its the hardest thing in the world to have do. Especially after someting so unexpected. I cant imagine if it were my husband. And lets face it- most men arent natural born communicators.
53- I'm curious too!
You all do know that you don't have to have every single detail, right?
---------
Couldn't agree more.
I think Gennifer said she had other things in the works. Maybe she can't reveal what they are yet.
54: Agreed. And that's all I'll say about Eva because I didn't know her and I respect those she left behind enough not to disrespect them or their grief.
RE Digi Files: I wouldn't say that Sausan's is ugly...just not a very vibrant color palette and the colors look all washed out (so very boring to me and how I scrap). The grungy kit style doesn't help the washed-out feel. My gripe with Sausan's kit is the same as my gripe about Mye's: bad quality. Sausan's papers are blurry (and the elements that use papers are blurry, too.) Goodness, I wish the Daily Digi would contact me. I'd be their QCer. (Too bad this is an anon blog.)
#59, Maybe you should design. You seem to know what NOT to do.
60: Who says I don't?
#60 - being able to tell blurry papers makes her an expert? Right.
All the comments about the bad quality are interesting since they make such a big deal about their QC process and such whenever they talk about why they don't take certain designers...
All the comments about the bad quality are interesting since they make such a big deal about their QC process and such whenever they talk about why they don't take certain designers...
----
I'm comment 60, and that's why I made the comment about QCing. (And no, of course I don't consider myself an expert, 62. But it's really annoying that I could easily see the problems that TDF people missed.) I mean, I don't mind if I don't like a color palette (I can recolor stuff), but I can't fix QC issues like blurriness.
I think this is the worst month at Digi Files.
I never found a month that had 7 hits but there are always 2 products that stand out,3 good ones and 2 ok, but this month it's 4 okays and 3 bad ones.
A question: Is the new FPP at myscrapbookart.com worth it? Did I read it correctly? It's $5.00 for 12 kits? That sounds like a good deal.
I'm comment 60, and that's why I made the comment about QCing. (And no, of course I don't consider myself an expert, 62.
---
I never said you did. Read what I was replying to, which was comment #60, sounding snarky. I'm assuming you were comment #59 and #60.
A question: Is the new FPP at myscrapbookart.com worth it? Did I read it correctly? It's $5.00 for 12 kits? That sounds like a good deal.
---
I want to know too. But I'm guessing nobody knows because they haven't been released yet. It's like buying a grab bag without the preview.
I want to know if anyone here will admit to purchasing the scrapstacks kits. I want to know how they turned out. Are you happy with the purchase?
#67 I'm #65 I know they haven't been released yet but I like most of the deisgners. I just want to make sure that it costs $5.00 for 12 kits and not $5.00 a month.
It seems pretty clear to me that it's $5 for the whole 12 kits.
you will be able to purchase your FEATURED PRESENTATION PASS for just $5 and will be able to download all 12 Featured Designer's kit on a monthly basis
Did any of you apply at Gotta pixel and recieve and answer (particulary if it was a negative answer) ? I applied and had no answer. Very incorrect !!!
It's been my experience that it's somewhat commonplace to not receive an answer for designer/ct apps sometimes if you weren't picked. I personally don't agree with this practice but it's not uncommon at all.
#72 in fact i'll never apply again with this store.
When I was a store owner, I responded to everyone that applied. Either for store CT or Designer. It's rude and inconsiderate not to!
There is a very nice tribute at SSD - http://www.sweetshoppedesigns.com/index.php/2012/11/a-very-special-tribute/
66: I never said you did. Read what I was replying to, which was comment #60, sounding snarky. I'm assuming you were comment #59 and #60.
---
You should stop assuming things, especially on an anonymous blog. I'm not post 59. Why the hell would I write that? (And how do you know 59 wasn't meant sarcastically?) And I understood what you were referring to, which is why I wrote what I did.
WTF is with stores that plan events for DSD weekend only to have the designer who is supposed to host fail to show? Unprofessional and even worse than the not replying to emails as mentioned above.
Oh, that's bad, 77!
Is anybody else wondering if there will be an opening at SSD?
^^^
I highly doubt it. They don't add designers very often.
Anyone find any great deals or whatever yet today? Any must haves?
KimB's got a great PU grab at SM but I haven't gotten around to purchasing it yet.
In terms of freebies, I like the SO Facebook hop; the STS one has some good parts and some total clunkers. Looking forward to seeing what the SM Facebook hop is like when it goes live tomorrow.
Last month many of you expressed sympathy for the co-owner and designers at BSS who were innocently caught up in that fiasco. The new store that the co-owner and many of the designers are at is now open at http://bellazingarostudio.com/shop/ Please drop by and give us a look and some support. #79 was asking if anybody had found any great deals today. Well we have some big sales going on, so please come give us a look. Thank you.
This blog is a joke! How can you all be so negative, not to mention rude?
I'm sorry I found this blog. After reading all this crap I need to go pray.
Will not be seeing you later!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Bye.
#82 don't let the virtual door hit you in the ass on your way out!
Ann - WHY would I want to go shop at a store that ripped off bella gypsy?
No thanks.
85
I thought that was bull and that bg just had huge egos.
But I wouldn't shop there simply because everything is gross.
Enkay Designs claims she is a graphic designer but her stuff is just so blah and gross. How is she at the digi chick?
#87 - because at least half of TDC is gross...
88 I guess she fits in that half then. Lol. Her stuff is very unappealing.
Yep, shudda known you all weren't sincere when you said the co-owner and designers shouldn't be blamed for her mess and other nice words of support.......
So which half of TDC isn't gross? I haven't been over there in a long time and it has changed a lot. Where is Simon when we need him?
#90 -- How does saying that the products aren't that great equate to not being sincere? That sincerity wasn't about the designs, it was about the situation that Charly put all of you in. No one said anything about the work previously.
#92 ITA. Just because no one thinks that the Charly fiasco is your fault doesn't mean we now have to love the designs. And isn't a little bit weird to have both "Bella" and "Gypsy" as part of your branding?
Ann, it's a cute store and I'm happy that you all were able to start fresh. Just a few tips:
The background is really....um....busy. Just mho.
And the gal that does the templates - Creatively Obsessed? - way too simple and plain. I'm pretty sure I could duplicate them in a few seconds.
But some of the kits are cute and there's a nice variety. Good luck to you and the other designers. Hope it all works out well :)
#93. She doesn't. It's Bella Zingaro Studios
#95 It says "Gypsy Spotlight" right on the sidebar. It's not in the site name, but it's part of the branding.
Zingaro = Italian Gypsy
The owners of the store did all of the design of the store and the name. I have no control or input over that. Those of us that moved after BSS suddenly closed were just trying to find someplace to go to quick - or at least I was. I can't speak for everyone, but I suspect others did feel that way, too. It can take at least a month and often more to get accepted into another store. Continued harping over the name stuff that all happened before any of us signed on just punishes the designers even more. It's like we can't do anything right!!
With regards to me, I'm back in school full time and barely designing at all. There is no way that I could meet the requirements for any other store. The owners at BZ are nice enough to understand my situation and let me just do what I can. I guess I could of retired - and maybe I should of - but I do get stress relief from designing - or rather making things in Photoshop CS. And now I must go and write a C++ program that is due by midnight.
Ann....why the hell would you come here to advertise?
You should stop assuming things, especially on an anonymous blog. I'm not post 59. Why the hell would I write that?
---------
You are assuming that I would know the answer to why you would write that. I don't, you are anonymous. Chill.
Is anybody else wondering if there will be an opening at SSD?
-----
No, that would be extremely tacky.
This blog is a joke! How can you all be so negative, not to mention rude?
I'm sorry I found this blog. After reading all this crap I need to go pray.
Will not be seeing you later!
--------
I don't know, why are you so rude and negative?
Continued harping over the name stuff that all happened before any of us signed on just punishes the designers even more. It's like we can't do anything right!!
-------
One person mentioned it, which is hardly continued harping. Whining about "it's like we can't do anything right" doesn't make you, or them, look good.
nobody ever looks good here. I'm just fitting in :) back to programming.....
Ann this blog is not a place to pimp your new store. That is what DST, DSA, MSA are for. Please do your pimping at those places and not here.
^^^
LOVE
I really like Bella Gypsy and I know they were upset by this site stealing their name, so I'm sorry, but that's a huge strike right at the start. It would be wiser not to get involved, I would think.
Yes, this is one of those times that it will be a "told you so" in the future and we'll be saying you should have done your research.
nobody ever looks good here. I'm just fitting in :)
---
But the thing is, the rest of us anon and not dragging anyone else down with us.
Laurie Ann from A5D is going to TLP.
Just because a store doesn't meet someones idea of attractive doesn't mean there aren't nice products inside, and as for the bg shit, all they do is blow smoke out of their asses. Didn't I read back earlier where they allegedly tried to come across as legal against that new store because of the name? It's a name people, and bg doesn't own the rights legally or otherwise, if they did it would have been trademarked. Anyone can do a search for trademarks and clearly find out they don't have shit. Same as with their website, sure they own theirs, but any other domains that have any variation of their name, unless they buy them up, they don't have the right to them either. Personally, I commend Ann for coming here as herself and letting others know about her new store. isn't that what all of you do, advertise by posting links to stores, products, blogs etc? I see that as a form of advertisement, after all we all click and go see what the fuss is about, and you can't tell me once there, you don't look around at the store itself and see what is on sale, we all do. So why don't we agree to move on to something that actually has some beef behind it. Anyone familiar with Queen Brat? Script writer, kit maker, recently caught pirating.
Umm. are these the same kit?
http://shop.scrapmatters.com/images/cache/7483716921fb81813ad72b776a7b6ce3.jpg
http://saaronline.weebly.com/uploads/1/2/2/6/12263778/9902549_orig.jpg?0
Now the question is, who ripped off who?
Pretty sure her name isn't really Ann Ominous, so she's not coming here as herself. And, yeah, the name probably wasn't trademarked, but this is a creative industry, and I will judge someone if they lack the creativity to come up with a unique name. I probably won't bother looking at their products because of it. *shrug*
I just downloaded some templates that were saved in both TIFF and PSD format. The TIFF files were over 40MB while the PSD files were just over 7MB. I resaved the TIFF files correctly and they are now only just over 2MB. Which means I deleted just 140MB and replaced with it just over 6MB. Sigh.
If BGD had nothing on them legally, why did they change their name? That seems pretty whimpy to me.
Personally, I commend Ann for coming here as herself and letting others know about her new store. isn't that what all of you do, advertise by posting links to stores, products, blogs etc? I see that as a form of advertisement, after all we all click and go see what the fuss is about, and you can't tell me once there, you don't look around at the store itself and see what is on sale, we all do. So
-----
In general, these posts are for discussion and not to drum up sales.
Any one that defends Ann has to be from that store. Turns out it wasn't just Charly that was a drama queen, I guess.
Umm. are these the same kit?
----
No. Same theme but not the same kit. The art itself is different. You can't see that?
Bella Gypsy might not own a copyright or trademark on the name, but WOULD win in court by claiming a "service mark" on the trade name. Symbols of a company or business, in this case the Bella Gypsy logo constitute a "service mark", meaning that they are known for using that logo. Direct copy - which it was, not only with the name but to the logo itself (a slightly different font was used) was what the "new store" was trying to use, and did indeed try to claim the name Bella Gypsy for their store. In a closed market industry such as digiscrap, they would have indeed won any court case on that subject. So, #112, before you spout off again - read up on what you are talking about BEFORE you try telling others what's what.
#119 - thank you Perry Mason
Umm. are these the same kit?
http://shop.scrapmatters.com/images/cache/7483716921fb81813ad72b776a7b6ce3.jpg
http://saaronline.weebly.com/uploads/1/2/2/6/12263778/9902549_orig.jpg?0
Now the question is, who ripped off who?
-------
Who cares? Both are really badly executed.
isn't that what all of you do, advertise by posting links to stores, products, blogs etc?
---------
Nope, not on this blog we don't.
Personally, I commend Ann for coming here as herself and letting others know about her new store. isn't that what all of you do, advertise by posting links to stores, products, blogs etc? I see that as a form of advertisement, after all we all click and go see what the fuss is about, and you can't tell me once there, you don't look around at the store itself and see what is on sale, we all do.
---------------------------------------------
For starters, whether or not you commend it has no relevance. Pimping goes against what this blog is about and I will not allow blatant pimping of stores or products.
This blog is here to discuss the scrap industry, it is not here as a marketing tool. If you want to market your stores or products, go to DST, DSA or MSA. Pay the fee and market to your hearts content.
Secondly, one look at that store is enough to make me close the browser tab and never go back there. A stores aesthetics represent the type of products and designers in that store. If a store is not aesthetically appealing, there is no way I would even look at any of the products in it.
HAHAHHA so funny up there on your lofty perch there 119. BG ass kisser much? Seems only the BG supporters come here in their defense. As for legalities, I think not since the lovely BG pirates don't have a state license for their shop, and don't have anything copyrighted or trademarked. If they can say their "service name" belongs to them, then every God forsaken thing on this earth that has any variation of the precious BG logo or name is screwed. For that matter, someone naming their kid Bella, or their dog Gypsy, or whatever, is infringing on their oh so lovely service name. Get a grip on reality, we designers and CT don't have a legal leg to stand on unless we have chucked out good money to copyright our product, license our name and trademark our product. And don't even get me started on state by state licensing for businesses, because as scrap stores go, they are a business, they earn money, but are they licensed? Of course not. So take your legalese back to where it came from and crawl back to your precious BG team.
Oh, no, Ann's real. Only person I know who has managed to get herself kicked out of Divine Digital.
Since when has the a Smack Block started telling people what they can post? Oh yah, since some newbie took over this particular blog and decided that she can. Never would have happened on the old blog - never.
Who is the new owner of this blog - inquiring minds would like to know?
More like inquiring mind, I honestly don't care who runs it.
But I have to agree, who really pimps their shit on a Smack Blog without thinking they won't get smacked themselves?
#126 This is a smack blog. It is not an advertising venue. End of story.
#127 Doesn't matter who does that - the question is since when does the blog tell us what we can and can not post here? Might as well go to back to DST. The purpose of the smack blog was no rules.
Ha ha this is funny, you guys are smacking the smack blog- got to love that
I always thought the purpose of a smack blog, was to express our opinions about our community without the confines of social ambiguity.
#127 you are right, if you want to advertise you might as well go back to DST.
We don't come here to read advertisements from third rate (at best) stores like the BG ripoff. We come here to smack and read smack.
HAHAHHA so funny up there on your lofty perch there 119. BG ass kisser much?
----
Ass kisser or not, 119 is right or they wouldn't have changed their name. If they were SOOOOO right, why didn't the rip-offs just fight it?
At least her "advertisement" gave everyone some new smack fodder.
http://shop.scrapmatters.com/images/cache/7483716921fb81813ad72b776a7b6ce3.jpg
http://saaronline.weebly.com/uploads/1/2/2/6/12263778/9902549_orig.jpg?0
Now the question is, who ripped off who?
-------
They probably used the same CU so it isn't a rip off. But a lot of piracy hunters on this blog never think about that.
We should be able to smack who we want and what we want, whenever we want. Maybe someone else should start another blog!
Umm. are these the same kit?
http://shop.scrapmatters.com/images/cache/7483716921fb81813ad72b776a7b6ce3.jpg
http://saaronline.weebly.com/uploads/1/2/2/6/12263778/9902549_orig.jpg?0
Now the question is, who ripped off who?
-------
They both ripped off Disney....it looks like Gaston inspired stuff from Beauty and the Beast. Same inspiration, similar CU makes a similar looking kit.
I agree that the "moderation" of what is said here is uncalled for. Anyone who is here thinking pimping their store on a smack blog would be taken care of naturally by the readership - not by big brother.
If we want to be moderated in any fashion, we'll go to DST.
thinking pimping their store on a smack blog [is a good idea]... sorry that part got lost in my mind.
We should be able to smack who we want and what we want, whenever we want. Maybe someone else should start another blog!
Nov 3, 2012 8:05:00 AM
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Where does the owner say you can't smack someone? The owner is moderating pimping. I supposed you don't want the owner to delete the spambots either?
Personally I don't want to read the ads from a bunch of crappy shops or even the shops I like. I come here for smack, not ads!
^yep. and we will continue to smack bella zingaro, so all you bellaZ hags need to get used to it and quit trying to turn the words around so you can pimp your crap here.
And why don't you answer the above question? If they weren't doing anything wrong by using the Bella Gypsy name, why didn't they keep the name?
Please, @digismacker, when you said "I will not allow" then followed it up with another post "end of story", I cringed. So now we will always have to wonder what else are being censored from the blog because they offend your sense of smackworthy?
138 is absolutely right. We (and by We I mean other anon posters just like me) were taking care of the situation just fine (and in the right direction, I should say) even before you came lashing your whip around. Keep the moderation to the minimum from now on, please?
You know you can always log off and smack as anon like the rest of us, right? They way you used to do it? Thanks!
I love Captivated Visions' templates but she doesn't know how to save tiff files. They always end up larger than the psd ones.
I agree with 142.
Anyone knows the new designer at Scrapflower Cornelia designs ? First time I see her.
Cornelia, hmm, wasn't she at Scrapbird at one time? Possibly different name? Who knows.
Speaking of Scrapbird Sunny Day Scraps is still selling there. http://scrapbird.com/shop/sunny-day-scraps-m-116.html?zenid=30bb7e7207855a9981f16656d3f30466
My sales are triple what they were last DSD. Keep spending ladies!
^^^
So? Her stuff is ugly with a capital F.
I love SM but holy sh*t their DSD hop is a hot mess. Some are on Facebook, some are on blogs, some haven't posted, some have direct downloads, some kick you an off-site download service and you lose your place in the hop. Plus there's no unifying logo or icon on FB--big mistake.
Hopefully they'll do better when iNSD rolls around in the spring.
I have spent 0 today and don't intend to either.
Oh wait - am I allowed to say that o miss digi scrapper blog owner?
Sorry but unless you have a legal agreement between the font maker that the font is for your commercial use only, then you can't claim it's one companies or another's. Plain and simple. You should really look into what can be copyright/trademark legalities because you obviously don't know much. Much like, colors (and in some cases even color combinations) can't be trademarked or copyrighted because there are a limited number of color/color combinations.
Lord could you imagine if all the Jenn/Jen's went after each other about who used their name first?! Get over yourself. I'm tempted to start designing under the name GypsyBella just to piss ppl off.
A great example is there is a designer that goes by Design by Anita, and one that's Designs by Anita, and I believe even another that's Anita Designs. Should they all change their names, too?
If the designer in question did, in fact, change their name/logo, it was probably just to avoid a public scandal. Easier to just change your branding as a new designer than to fight an established one.
Why would there be a public scandal if they were doing nothing wrong? There would be nothing to avoid if they were right.
How are the other Blog or Facebook hops out there? I saw that one of you thought SM is s hot mess. Will have to check it out. LOL.
SO fb hop is nice. What I like is their DSD game prizes coordinate with it.
DHD's works well too.
SSD was missing a few last night. I haven't gone back to check it. But what was there was excellent!
TLP's is a mess because the designers don't link to the next one and I can't find the master list. (then again, I didn't look that hard.)
A great example is there is a designer that goes by Design by Anita, and one that's Designs by Anita, and I believe even another that's Anita Designs. Should they all change their names, too?
---
I double dog dare you to start a clothing line and name it "Tommy" or "Ralph" and tell us what happens.
It's true there are some things that are common place and designers need to be careful when the choose their name. But Bella Gypsy is original and not a name that is commonplace.
TLP's master list is on their blog.
I found some great stuff on both SSD's and TLP's hops. I didn't download everything by every designer as some didn't appeal to me. I haven't tried SO or DHD yet.
I've spent about $15. Years past I spent about $40 ish but I'm just not feeling it this year. Everything feels kinda ehhhh to me.
They changed their name to avoid further conflict, duh. Don't any of you morons know by now if something is similar, even accidental, that there is going to be some asshole somewhere who raises a stink about it? Smack about their store all you want. So it's similar, big deal. I love how everyone assumes it was an intentional "infringement". They changed their name as "demanded" by the BG team to keep from there being conflict, they did what was right and made their store different enough to stop confusion and so it wouldn't show up in the BG teams precious search results (yes the BG team whined about their search results in google showing something other than themselves). The owner of BZS fixed a place for the displaced designers of Charlys dual personality meltdown when she didn't have to. The bottom line here is you are looking for anything to bitch about, and you latch onto whatever tidbit floats your way, good or not. I like how so much is brought up that needs smacking, but you bypass it to pick on a store design and rehash old stories from a month ago. To me, that shows the same tired people who obviously are followers of certain people...you defend them enough. Besides, what shit you sling here, doesn't reach the mainstream of customers, hell, customers who are really serious about their digi scrapping just buy what they like, they don't care what a designer has done to their store design or who left what store, all they care about is getting decent product at decent prices. And btw, I thought this was a smack blog and no rules? I really like how the new owner likes to play all mighty on her new perch and dictate what should be said. IMO if you don't like how things are posted, then you shouldn't have steppws into Gennifer's shoes. Every link to every kit, every store you bring up as closing, every designer you bring up as moving to a new store, it is ALL a blatant form of advertising (Take A5D, closing, didn't we all run to shop and bitch how we couldn't bring up the site...duh advertising). So I think that someone ought to start a new smack blog, no holds barred, and then let the fur fly. Oh and for the catty ones, go ahead, smack me for sounding like a high school kid for saying "duh", can't help it, it fits.
152 In answer to your question, you obviously aren't off the smack blog very much or you'd realize that the store owners and designers out there can be just as bitchy and trouble making as we are here. Scorned designers and store owners tend to quietly spread lies about others and do their best to ruin or run off those they feel are trying to step into their spotlight. Simple as that.
151 I agree with you 100%. As for similarities to BG team and BZS, the BG team has a blog, the BZS store used a blog set for their decoration, doesn't anyone get blog sets tend to look virtually the same? lol
It's like that one friend that keeps finding assholes for boyfriends. In this case of BZS designers, it's poor choice in store owners.
159, just keep kidding yourself that it had anything to do with the blog design and the font. I don't think those were even close in design when I saw it.
But the name was dead-on and can't be disputed.
Bella Gypsy is original? Don't make me laugh. Wonder if they want to take on the boutique with their "legal letters of cease and desist"? Or maybe they want to take on the ladies motorcycle club. LOL Oh the horse, I just threw in for fun.
http://winnetka.patch.com/listings/bella-gypsy
http://www.meetup.com/Bella-Gypsies-WMC/
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Bella-Gypsies-WMC-Village/130085860395227
http://www.jonathankalbaugh.com/portfolio/bella-gypsy/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZWJu96Hk-4
#162 that was funny as hell. But my question is this, isn't the font used on that visual identity site similar to the BG Brand? lol
http://www.jonathankalbaugh.com/portfolio/bella-gypsy/
Trademarks are applied to specific goods and services. There is no direct competition with digital scrapbooking and a motorcycle club. Good try though.
I've been to the shop in Chicago. Very nice owner! She said there is nothing they can do. They don't cross markets. But she also said that she wouldn't do anything unless another shop in Chicago area opened with the same name. She knew about them before I brought it up.
So see there, the name is not original. Industry or not, so move along little doggies, nothing to see here. Anyone have any actually interesting news or something that is actually smack worthy?
The BZS hags are out in full force today to defend their new owner!
What about other freebies? Anybody seen anything worthwhile besides the blog hops?
Go look for them at DST or MSA.
Fond of the word hags are you? Why can't they defend their owner? Least some people get support. Besides, do you even know any of those people outside of what this blog says? I doubt it. So go back under your bridge.
Why would we want to know them? What's your point? It makes us trolls because we don't know them?
Of course we don't know them. It's not like we're neighbors.
Do you know BGD personally? They've been smacked pretty hard too. My guess is that you can't see past your hag friend's posts to see that it goes both way.
*ways.
People just aren't buying this year. I've sold $2 worth.
I spent $200 today. And the stores I shopped at are moving slow. I think it is going pretty well oufor some designers.
Wow..lots of grumpy commenters today? Why? No money to shop or sales are down?
It's a smack blog, moron. Are you really expecting sunshine and rainbows?
I spent around $100 on Halloween sales and retiring sales and I plan on spending another $200 today. I started searching for the sales and looking up my wishlists. I also want to download the freebies from the blog hops. Busy day.
I'll be buying from stores with 40% off. I can't resist The lilypad and sweet shoppe although they only have 30% off,my wishlists from them are huge.
#177 Yes sunshines and rainbows with a sprinkle of smack would be perfect!!!!
You are in the wrong place.
Since when has the a Smack Block started telling people what they can post?
----
It's happened before. On this blog, the old blog, the one before that, etc. It's not new.
Good grief, even facebook is running extremely slowly. Us digiscrappers have broken the internet!
Ass kisser or not, 119 is right or they wouldn't have changed their name. If they were SOOOOO right, why didn't the rip-offs just fight it?
------
Because sometimes it's easier to give in, even if you are in the right. If they are fighting over a business name, business is not being conducted. It's easier to change the name and get on with things. Happens in the 'real' world too.
So now we will always have to wonder what else are being censored from the blog because they offend your sense of smackworthy?
------
No we won't, because some of us aren't that paranoid.
I have spent about $100 so far. I got a lot of stuff at Vinnie Pearce's personal store (65% off), some stuff from Lauren Grier (30% off), ViVa Artistry (70% off some stuff) and Captivated Visions (30%). I might spend some more tomorrow but tonight I'll be hitting the blog hops and freebies.
I have spent 0 today and don't intend to either.
Oh wait - am I allowed to say that o miss digi scrapper blog owner?
-----d
Seriously? She only said no pimping. Get a grip.
I didn't spend anything either and don't intend too. I have zero money for extras right now.
Why would there be a public scandal if they were doing nothing wrong? There would be nothing to avoid if they were right.
-----
Are you really that naive? There's been plenty of times when there's been a public scandal and the person wasn't doing anything wrong. People are more willing to believe in muck and lies than the truth.
#187, you are an example of believing muck and lies.
But Bella Gypsy is original and not a name that is commonplace.
---
It's not that original. Not that I care either way.
#187, you are an example of believing muck and lies.
---
How exactly? Please tell me how you arrived at the ridiculous conclusion.
When I see the name Bella it makes me think of Twilight and all of the digital kits that have been made to cash in on that movie.
I said it last month and I'll say it again, Bella Gypsy and Bella Zingaro really aren't worth the smack time, especially since nothing new has come up since the last month.
Now onto DSD, I had a look at a few blog hops and so many were being conducted on FB. That didn't bother me, but some designers didn't have their gift up, while others didn't show what they were offering before you liked their page. Previews are a good idea.
1. Tradmarks are covered under common law in the US and do not have to be registered for legal protection. The continual use of a logo does offer protection.
2. A unique name or something that has little to do with the product itself is offered the most protection. The word scrapbook isn't trademarked just because a designer uses it. In the case of BGD, their name is unique to the industry and offers a brand reputation.
3. Some trademarks have absolution because of their registration. Disney would be an example of this type of registration. BGD would not but they would have protection within their industry of digital scrapbooking. It could be extended into paper scrapbooking as well.
4. Even if the "new" bella gypsy didn't know about the already existing BGD, that doesn't mean that BGD didn't have any legal rights. They were right to change their name because they more than likely would have lost in a lawsuit. So, they probably knew they couldn't win, and changed their name.
Why would there be a public scandal if they were doing nothing wrong? There would be nothing to avoid if they were right.
-----
Are you really that naive? There's been plenty of times when there's been a public scandal and the person wasn't doing anything wrong. People are more willing to believe in muck and lies than the truth.
----
How exactly? Please tell me how you arrived at the ridiculous conclusion.
----
Because, for whatever reason, you think that bellazingo had a right to retain the name bella gypsy. And that to not think your way is to believe in muck and lies.
But I don't believe that they could have retained the name legally. If they knew they had legal footing, they would not have changed it at all.
lol, "bellazingo"
Because, for whatever reason, you think that bellazingo had a right to retain the name bella gypsy. And that to not think your way is to believe in muck and lies.
------
No, I don't actually, in fact I don't care either way, and even if I did, your conclusion is faulty.
If you don't care, why bother to reply?
sigh. now would be a great time for some moderation...
If you don't care, why bother to reply?
------
Because I can.
sigh. now would be a great time for some moderation...
-----------
Why?
New comments are not allowed.