And if they made this horrible mistake, if they fire, let go or cancel the spot after offering it in the first place, doesn't it look as bad for them then it does for the designer in question?
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No, because most designers are never going to admit they were fired or let go because of the quality of their work. Wouldn't that be kinda digi-suicide to do so???
195 - Are you a designer who was accepted first, QC'ed second or are you the ownwer who does not QC until after you read the smack blog and decide you better QC that new designer? Or someone close to you fits one of those two scenarios?
3Scrapateers has never been a top store but they usually offered a decent free daily download. They have not posted one for March, nor have they mentioned it. Several people have asked about it in their forum but no replies. The forum is full of spam! I think this reflects poorly on any designers associated with 3S.
198 - Very good point. But then, how does the store owner explain that to others who might inquire? It does look odd if a new designer starts or is about to start and "changes" their mind. And if it is a quality issue, then it might also mean that the owner didn't do her job in the first place. I think.
Well since the news seems to be filtering out, it is true. Two peas is closing it's digi shop at the end of this month. We will have a sale and I am actively looking for a new home. I have a temporary store I am setting up on etsy to release this months Easter kits and put some older stuff
^^ just went and looked at her FB and saw the 3/1 and 3/8 announcement. Also a ton of posts about forgetting items, wrong links, bad passwords and codes....
Maybe she just thought she was doing a guest spot? And then forgot? Or it was pending and she thought it was finalized?
Total tantrum though. But hey- who doesn't love a good TRAINWRECK?
Whoever mentioned here that buying, downloading products, unzipping and organizing them is not time consuming hasn't made any orders in my opinion. Or at least big ones...
I think that's pretty STINKY of 2 peas to be taking on new designers VERY recently, only to turn around and "change their plans". I know a couple of designers who just recently left other (good) shops to go to 2peas. Sucks for them. :(
15 who left good shops? Just Jaimee was selling out of her own shop wasn't she? Mommyish hasn't stayed at a store for more than a month in over a year so I don't feel bad for her at all. One of the worst store hoppers around.
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I think that's pretty STINKY of 2 peas to be taking on new designers VERY recently, only to turn around and "change their plans". I know a couple of designers who just recently left other (good) shops to go to 2peas. Sucks for them. :( --- 2 Peas cannot afford to keep the digi thing going. If they did so, the entire business would be ruined financially. It's not something they chose to do just to ruin people's day. They apparently felt...hoped.. by taking on the new designers that their sales might increase. Alas, they're digi sales have plummeted, therefore, they've chosen to get rid of the digital side in lieu of closing down the entire operation.
I would take a guess that 2 Peas didn't do as well with Digital Sales as they have with their real scrapbook offerings. They started with real scrapbook item sales and think the only reason they went digital was because digital became popular and they thought they could get into the market and make money. I would take a guess that the Digital didn't live up to their expectations. If you look at who's there and click on some of the items, take a gander at the number of views and it's no wonder any particular item didn't sell well-people weren't looking!!
It will be interesting to see where some of these designers now find a home. I think many went to 2Peas thinking they would make gobs of money too even with the highest split between what 2Peas kept and what the designers made. I wonder what stores will be interested in taking many of them back.
22--many designers went to 2 peas because there isn't the pressure to make freebies, store collabs, forum participation, and promoting like there is at other stores. 2 peas also takes a much higher percentage of the sales than most stores.
I've never heard of most of the 2Peas designers. Many of them don't seem to have blogs or FB pages. If it was just a dumping ground, I can see why the sales were low.
I used to know a 2 peas designer a year or two ago and she used to pull in over $1000 a month with no marketing effort required on her part and she also didn't have to release every week. The digital side of 2 peas used to do very well. By regular digistore standards it was still doing well too but the ownership recently changed back to a family and the owner doesn't like digital. They were making gobs of money though compared to any other digital store out there.
28 - Clearly it wasn't profitable or they would have kept it open. That part is just common sense. Everything else 19 said appeared to make 2peas look decent, so I guess that must be the lies?
The amount of server space, bandwidth, etc to maintain a digistore properly can be expensive, but clearly not outrageous in price. Dealing with customer service for digi it what sucks the lifeblood out of people.
I've been retired for 2 years and I still get emails from former customers asking me to send them links to products because their hard drives crash. I can't imagine the day-to-day dealings a large store has to deal with.
Perhaps if the digi prices at 2Peas weren't so outrageous, they'd have done a little better. (jmo from last time I looked, when many of the kits I looked at where over $8; I haven't looked recently)
19 you have no idea what you're talking about. Don't lie on a smack blog just to stir up rumors.
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Call it a lie all you like; that doesn't make it one. I'm stirring up rumors because I said a business had to close an not-so-lucrative part to concentrate on something else? Yeah, what a hot, smack-worthy rumor that creates, especially in this economy!
The digi portion of 2Peas wasn't necessarily run right, but given how it was run, it just was not worth it. I think this is basic common sense #28...not fodder for some cooked-up-by-you rumor.
The digital side of 2 peas used to do very well. By regular digistore standards it was still doing well too but the ownership recently changed back to a family and the owner doesn't like digital. They were making gobs of money though compared to any other digital store out there.
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Hogwash. If they were currently making (clearing) "gobs" of money from their digital products, there is no way in hell they would have shut it down unless they're idiots and trying to run their business in the ground.
If they have a decent sale, there are a couple of things I want to pick up, but as #30 said, their pries are outrageous and I am simply not paying them. If I were starting a digi store myself, I would make $6.00 the top kit price. Designers not interested don't have to apply.
Think about it - 2 peas probably rolls in an absurd amount of money and real scrapbooking products. They aren't a regular digi scrap store like the rest of digi world. It is a big business and the 10's of thousands they earn from digi a year is nothing to them.
Designers not interested don't have to apply. --------- My guess is most experienced, established designers wouldn't. Why apply to your new store when I'm making much more at where I am now? You would most likely get new designers, which isn't a bad thing. Just make sure to do your QC's like a good store owner!
39, There aren't 60 designers there. Two Peas keeps the rights to sell anything that's ever gone into the digital store so most of those designers have moved on but their products are still there. Did you seriously think that people who run their own companies now like Carina Gardner and Jen Allyson are actually at Two Peas Digital still?
I'm getting a kick out of reading you all running your mouths about something you know nothing about. Did you ever consider that I know exactly what I am talking about? 19 posted that if Two Peas digital site was kept running that it "would ruin their entire business financially" as though it would run them out of business. This comment is my favorite: "they've chosen to get rid of the digital side in lieu of closing down the entire operation."
Are you kidding me? Do you have any idea how much money the company makes? Millions, having nothing to do with digital at all. I know for a fact that the digital site was bringing in anywhere from $10-20K a month over the past few years. It wasn't running the company into the ground but it wasn't making them big bucks either. Sales had dropped but were still much higher than most other digital sites. The company decided that it wasn't enough to bother with anymore because it didn't rely on the money, and didn't care about the designers who did rely on the money. Plain and simple.
Yes I know what I am talking about and the rest of you are entertaining maybe but misinformed.
#40 I didn't pay attention to the designers, I just counted them. I didn't know that past designers still have their products there. You don't have to be snarky.
43 - I'm not 41, but she seems to know a heck of a lot more about this than you do. Why don't you contribute something worthwhile so the rest of us can see if there's another story here? Sounds to me like 41 has offered the best explanation so far.
Are you kidding me? Do you have any idea how much money the company makes?
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I don't care if the company makes billions. If an aspect of that company is not lucrative it can negatively affect the entire business. Please go brush up on some business economics 101 and then maybe you can dazzle us with what you know. All we are aware of now is what you don't.
43 - I'm not 41, but she seems to know a heck of a lot more about this than you do. Why don't you contribute something worthwhile so the rest of us can see if there's another story here? Sounds to me like 41 has offered the best explanation so far.
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What explanation? Just because she types more she knows more?
LOL at 43's comment "thanks though for asking" when I can't really see what she thinks that 41 was asking her. Sounds to me like someone can't stand being put in her place and also what was boring and repetitive about it? I enjoyed having someone with potentially inside info finally grow the balls to post here.
I don't care if the company makes billions. If an aspect of that company is not lucrative it can negatively affect the entire business. Please go brush up on some business economics 101 and then maybe you can dazzle us with what you know. All we are aware of now is what you don't.
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I don't know about everyone else, but I'm a store owner and $10-20K a month sounds lucrative to me. I wish my site brought in almost a quarter million dollars a year. Do the math - say Two Peas commission really is 50/50. That leaves the company with $125K. After server fees, even if those are higher than normal, that's still at least $100K a year profit before taxes. I'd take it.
43 - I'm not 41, but she seems to know a heck of a lot more about this than you do. Why don't you contribute something worthwhile so the rest of us can see if there's another story here?
Hasn't mommyish been at shco for more than a year?
#21 - I've bought from her there for at least two years. I don't know about her PU stuff.
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Her attempt to explain 6 PU stores in 2 years just a day after someone called her a store hopper here. Which would be 1 store every 4 months except none of those appearances ever lasted longer than a month or two. Hop! Hop!
Wow 54 it sounds like someone has a personal issue to deal with. I have always thought she is adorable and funny and nice. Great customer service too. What did she ever do to you? I loved her blog post too, thank you for linking it! Go have a drink, you need it!
How much a company makes is a bit misleading. What real business people care about is profit margin.
Let's say 2peas makes one million a year, but what does it cost to make that million? How much inventory do they carry? How much do the buildings (or building) cost that house that inventory? How much do their online services and maintenance cost? How much do they pay in fees to do business online? How much do they pay in taxes? How much do they expend on employees pay, benefits, and other government costs? Etc.
Of that one million, I'd wager at least 60% goes back out the door and that's being generous. If that's the case, they're profiting about $33,000/month.
If Digi sales were bringing in $10-20k/month BEFORE designers were paid, I can see some logic in removing digital, because now you're talking $5-10k before expenses.
If that was the amount 2peas profited before taxes, fees, and additional server expenses, etc (I'll assume about 35% of sales), then it makes no sense from a business standpoint. $6500-$13,000 loss in profits/month would be a 25-30% loss overall. Unless you're trying to infer they gross more than $35,000/month...
Haha #57 and #57 very funny!! I was trying to start a new topic. I had just finished downlading some orders and it took me two hours. A while ago someone here on this blog mentioned that it's not time consuming and they don't understand the fuss. So don't shoot me. I've seen more random stuff mentioned here than that.
61 I am following your logic but it seems like you are pulling #'s out of your ass and that's where you lose me. Everything makes sense until you get to the part where you assume that a digital site's expenses are 35% of gross profit. That makes zero sense, and is inaccurate IMO. Where does your jump to $6500-13000 loss in profits/month come from? Explain those numbers and I'll reserve judgment on your analysis until that point.
#65 smoking crack? What a stupid thing to say. I meant her style. She's better than many designers there. I know it won't happen because TLP has many requirements from designers.
I think 65 might also be the one calling Mommyish a store hopper. I "found" her during her June Guest spot at TDC. She went from there to Scrapflower until it closed, as was very transparent/forthcoming about her arrival and departure at Oscraps.
Not 65 tho I agree, even if she didn't need to be so bitchy about it. I shop there and this is taken from their site "The Lilypad’s digital scrapbooking designs are known for being original – cut, drawn, stitched and crafted by hand – and unique. Original doodles, clever felted pieces, detailed stitching, painted papers and the most unique alphabets & templates in digital scrapbooking comprise the TLP shop." I don't think mommyish does anything that matches that description at all. Don't get me wrong I love her as a designer, but she is like the goddess of CU photo shop styles and TLP is like the shop who is the most opposite of photo shop styles. If that makes sense.
71 - 65 is not the only person who thinks she is a store hopper. She is almost impossible to keep track of and as a customer, I can see it being off-putting. The thing I don't get is why other designers care if someone changes stores a lot. How does it affect you if someone else moves around from store to store? If you think it's bad for business then it's not affecting your business right, just hers? I see store hopping discussed around this blog a lot and I haven't ever understood why designers care what other designers do.
I think Mommyish's style would fit in at SO. Unfortunately, I don't shop at SO anymore cuz I hate their ScrapPin gallery. I know you don't need to post in the gallery to buy from the store, but I'm so annoyed with the new gallery that I've given up on the store too.
The 2Peas digital talk has been that they are changing direction to a hybrid approach. I think they are trying to reach a wider audience with coordinating digital kits purchased from big name paper companies. Trying to appeal to paper scrappers with digital elements that would coordinate with their paper products would be my guess about changing direction.
Ooh, I can see TLP thinks highly of themselves, but I disagree. On the whole, their designer roster is no more original or wonderful than the whole of most of the other bigger stores. They have a few exceptional designers but far more of the I-could-buy-this-anywhere type designers.
I'd hate to see Leah go to TLP or SO. She is a nice person and wouldn't fit in with the snotty attitude displayed in either of those places.
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«Oldest ‹Older 2801 – 2881 of 2881 Newer› Newest»And if they made this horrible mistake, if they fire, let go or cancel the spot after offering it in the first place, doesn't it look as bad for them then it does for the designer in question?
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No, because most designers are never going to admit they were fired or let go because of the quality of their work. Wouldn't that be kinda digi-suicide to do so???
Also wondering if 75 up above is Miss Finch.
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Very possible, however, the poster does sound a bit more mature and rational than Finch.
Do you really think that a store owner would offer a spot (guest or not) without checking QC first?
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Uh..yes, I do. I don't "think" it; I know it.
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195- you know in this case what happened?
Or in general that it has happened before?
195 - Are you a designer who was accepted first, QC'ed second or are you the ownwer who does not QC until after you read the smack blog and decide you better QC that new designer? Or someone close to you fits one of those two scenarios?
3Scrapateers has never been a top store but they usually offered a decent free daily download. They have not posted one for March, nor have they mentioned it. Several people have asked about it in their forum but no replies. The forum is full of spam! I think this reflects poorly on any designers associated with 3S.
198 - Very good point. But then, how does the store owner explain that to others who might inquire? It does look odd if a new designer starts or is about to start and "changes" their mind. And if it is a quality issue, then it might also mean that the owner didn't do her job in the first place. I think.
Did TDC ever announce the guest spot? I never saw her name listed in the shop as a guest designer?
3Scrapateers will probably be shut down along with RAKScraps.
Truman studio's FB status:
Well since the news seems to be filtering out, it is true. Two peas is closing it's digi shop at the end of this month. We will have a sale and I am actively looking for a new home. I have a temporary store I am setting up on etsy to release this months Easter kits and put some older stuff
Several 2Ps designers have "come out of the closet". It really does not make any sense.
4 - No. The only person who announced it was Harper Finch.
Wouldn't it be funny if TDC never planned on having this girl at their shop, and she just made it all up? It almost looks that way.
^^ just went and looked at her FB and saw the 3/1 and 3/8 announcement. Also a ton of posts about forgetting items, wrong links, bad passwords and codes....
Maybe she just thought she was doing a guest spot? And then forgot? Or it was pending and she thought it was finalized?
Total tantrum though. But hey- who doesn't love a good TRAINWRECK?
Lol! I'm 10 and was posting to 8 when 9 posted. Got to say "I agree!"
So does anyone know what happened at 2p's?
Why a change of heart all of a sudden?
I feel bad for Mommyish, she just moved there.
2Peas decided to go another direction. Whatever that means. I feel sorry for their digi designers, for sure.
Whoever mentioned here that buying, downloading products, unzipping and organizing them is not time consuming hasn't made any orders in my opinion.
Or at least big ones...
I think that's pretty STINKY of 2 peas to be taking on new designers VERY recently, only to turn around and "change their plans". I know a couple of designers who just recently left other (good) shops to go to 2peas. Sucks for them. :(
Agreed 15
15 who left good shops? Just Jaimee was selling out of her own shop wasn't she? Mommyish hasn't stayed at a store for more than a month in over a year so I don't feel bad for her at all. One of the worst store hoppers around.
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I think that's pretty STINKY of 2 peas to be taking on new designers VERY recently, only to turn around and "change their plans". I know a couple of designers who just recently left other (good) shops to go to 2peas. Sucks for them. :(
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2 Peas cannot afford to keep the digi thing going. If they did so, the entire business would be ruined financially. It's not something they chose to do just to ruin people's day. They apparently felt...hoped.. by taking on the new designers that their sales might increase. Alas, they're digi sales have plummeted, therefore, they've chosen to get rid of the digital side in lieu of closing down the entire operation.
19. You don't know anything.
Hasn't mommyish been at shco for more than a year?
I would take a guess that 2 Peas didn't do as well with Digital Sales as they have with their real scrapbook offerings. They started with real scrapbook item sales and think the only reason they went digital was because digital became popular and they thought they could get into the market and make money. I would take a guess that the Digital didn't live up to their expectations. If you look at who's there and click on some of the items, take a gander at the number of views and it's no wonder any particular item didn't sell well-people weren't looking!!
It will be interesting to see where some of these designers now find a home. I think many went to 2Peas thinking they would make gobs of money too even with the highest split between what 2Peas kept and what the designers made. I wonder what stores will be interested in taking many of them back.
#21 - I've bought from her there for at least two years. I don't know about her PU stuff.
22--many designers went to 2 peas because there isn't the pressure to make freebies, store collabs, forum participation, and promoting like there is at other stores. 2 peas also takes a much higher percentage of the sales than most stores.
Exactly what #24 said. I heard it was 50/50!
I've never heard of most of the 2Peas designers. Many of them don't seem to have blogs or FB pages. If it was just a dumping ground, I can see why the sales were low.
I used to know a 2 peas designer a year or two ago and she used to pull in over $1000 a month with no marketing effort required on her part and she also didn't have to release every week. The digital side of 2 peas used to do very well. By regular digistore standards it was still doing well too but the ownership recently changed back to a family and the owner doesn't like digital. They were making gobs of money though compared to any other digital store out there.
19 you have no idea what you're talking about. Don't lie on a smack blog just to stir up rumors.
28 - Clearly it wasn't profitable or they would have kept it open. That part is just common sense.
Everything else 19 said appeared to make 2peas look decent, so I guess that must be the lies?
The amount of server space, bandwidth, etc to maintain a digistore properly can be expensive, but clearly not outrageous in price. Dealing with customer service for digi it what sucks the lifeblood out of people.
I've been retired for 2 years and I still get emails from former customers asking me to send them links to products because their hard drives crash. I can't imagine the day-to-day dealings a large store has to deal with.
That alone makes any profit not worth it IMO.
Perhaps if the digi prices at 2Peas weren't so outrageous, they'd have done a little better. (jmo from last time I looked, when many of the kits I looked at where over $8; I haven't looked recently)
The reason the prices are insane is because (as mentioned above) the commission was crap.
19 you have no idea what you're talking about. Don't lie on a smack blog just to stir up rumors.
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Call it a lie all you like; that doesn't make it one. I'm stirring up rumors because I said a business had to close an not-so-lucrative part to concentrate on something else? Yeah, what a hot, smack-worthy rumor that creates, especially in this economy!
The digi portion of 2Peas wasn't necessarily run right, but given how it was run, it just was not worth it. I think this is basic common sense #28...not fodder for some cooked-up-by-you rumor.
The digital side of 2 peas used to do very well. By regular digistore standards it was still doing well too but the ownership recently changed back to a family and the owner doesn't like digital. They were making gobs of money though compared to any other digital store out there.
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Hogwash. If they were currently making (clearing) "gobs" of money from their digital products, there is no way in hell they would have shut it down unless they're idiots and trying to run their business in the ground.
The reason the prices are insane is because (as mentioned above) the commission was crap.
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This, #28, would be an example of how the digi side was not run properly. You gettin' it now?
If they have a decent sale, there are a couple of things I want to pick up, but as #30 said, their pries are outrageous and I am simply not paying them. If I were starting a digi store myself, I would make $6.00 the top kit price. Designers not interested don't have to apply.
Think about it - 2 peas probably rolls in an absurd amount of money and real scrapbooking products. They aren't a regular digi scrap store like the rest of digi world. It is a big business and the 10's of thousands they earn from digi a year is nothing to them.
Designers not interested don't have to apply.
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My guess is most experienced, established designers wouldn't. Why apply to your new store when I'm making much more at where I am now? You would most likely get new designers, which isn't a bad thing. Just make sure to do your QC's like a good store owner!
I'm #37 and I know #35 was giving a hypothetical situation before someone takes the time to tell me that. I was simply giving a hypothetical reply.
Wow!! 60 digital designers at Two Peas.
I haven't seen that many designers at another store.
Where will all these designers go?
39, There aren't 60 designers there. Two Peas keeps the rights to sell anything that's ever gone into the digital store so most of those designers have moved on but their products are still there. Did you seriously think that people who run their own companies now like Carina Gardner and Jen Allyson are actually at Two Peas Digital still?
Dear 29,32,33,34 &36: I'm 28.
I'm getting a kick out of reading you all running your mouths about something you know nothing about. Did you ever consider that I know exactly what I am talking about? 19 posted that if Two Peas digital site was kept running that it "would ruin their entire business financially" as though it would run them out of business. This comment is my favorite: "they've chosen to get rid of the digital side in lieu of closing down the entire operation."
Are you kidding me? Do you have any idea how much money the company makes? Millions, having nothing to do with digital at all. I know for a fact that the digital site was bringing in anywhere from $10-20K a month over the past few years. It wasn't running the company into the ground but it wasn't making them big bucks either. Sales had dropped but were still much higher than most other digital sites. The company decided that it wasn't enough to bother with anymore because it didn't rely on the money, and didn't care about the designers who did rely on the money. Plain and simple.
Yes I know what I am talking about and the rest of you are entertaining maybe but misinformed.
#40 I didn't pay attention to the designers, I just counted them. I didn't know that past designers still have their products there. You don't have to be snarky.
Did you ever consider that I know exactly what I am talking about?
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No, I never considered this at all and still don't, even after your long, boring, repetitive post. Thanks, though, for asking.
43 - I'm not 41, but she seems to know a heck of a lot more about this than you do. Why don't you contribute something worthwhile so the rest of us can see if there's another story here? Sounds to me like 41 has offered the best explanation so far.
Are you kidding me? Do you have any idea how much money the company makes?
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I don't care if the company makes billions. If an aspect of that company is not lucrative it can negatively affect the entire business. Please go brush up on some business economics 101 and then maybe you can dazzle us with what you know. All we are aware of now is what you don't.
43 - I'm not 41, but she seems to know a heck of a lot more about this than you do. Why don't you contribute something worthwhile so the rest of us can see if there's another story here? Sounds to me like 41 has offered the best explanation so far.
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What explanation? Just because she types more she knows more?
46, you still haven't offered anything to the conversation.
LOL at 43's comment "thanks though for asking" when I can't really see what she thinks that 41 was asking her. Sounds to me like someone can't stand being put in her place and also what was boring and repetitive about it? I enjoyed having someone with potentially inside info finally grow the balls to post here.
WTF is 45 talking about??? LMAO at the stupidity
Why so defensive and disgruntled 46? What's it to you?
I don't care if the company makes billions. If an aspect of that company is not lucrative it can negatively affect the entire business. Please go brush up on some business economics 101 and then maybe you can dazzle us with what you know. All we are aware of now is what you don't.
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I don't know about everyone else, but I'm a store owner and $10-20K a month sounds lucrative to me. I wish my site brought in almost a quarter million dollars a year. Do the math - say Two Peas commission really is 50/50. That leaves the company with $125K. After server fees, even if those are higher than normal, that's still at least $100K a year profit before taxes. I'd take it.
43 - I'm not 41, but she seems to know a heck of a lot more about this than you do. Why don't you contribute something worthwhile so the rest of us can see if there's another story here?
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Agreed on both issues.
What explanation? Just because she types more she knows more?
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Hasn't mommyish been at shco for more than a year?
#21 - I've bought from her there for at least two years. I don't know about her PU stuff.
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http://mommyish.net/2013/03/feeling-nostalgic/
Her attempt to explain 6 PU stores in 2 years just a day after someone called her a store hopper here. Which would be 1 store every 4 months except none of those appearances ever lasted longer than a month or two. Hop! Hop!
How random is 14? LMAO
Wow 54 it sounds like someone has a personal issue to deal with. I have always thought she is adorable and funny and nice. Great customer service too. What did she ever do to you? I loved her blog post too, thank you for linking it! Go have a drink, you need it!
How random is 14? LMAO
Hah hah agreed!
Yawn about all of this. I just want to know if anyone has the inside scoop about where these designers from Two Peas are going?
So I know PDP has been talked about but I'm curious...what's the deal over there?
I don't even know what PDP is if that tells you anything. It's not on the list, either.
How much a company makes is a bit misleading. What real business people care about is profit margin.
Let's say 2peas makes one million a year, but what does it cost to make that million? How much inventory do they carry? How much do the buildings (or building) cost that house that inventory? How much do their online services and maintenance cost? How much do they pay in fees to do business online? How much do they pay in taxes? How much do they expend on employees pay, benefits, and other government costs? Etc.
Of that one million, I'd wager at least 60% goes back out the door and that's being generous. If that's the case, they're profiting about $33,000/month.
If Digi sales were bringing in $10-20k/month BEFORE designers were paid, I can see some logic in removing digital, because now you're talking $5-10k before expenses.
If that was the amount 2peas profited before taxes, fees, and additional server expenses, etc (I'll assume about 35% of sales), then it makes no sense from a business standpoint. $6500-$13,000 loss in profits/month would be a 25-30% loss overall. Unless you're trying to infer they gross more than $35,000/month...
Haha #57 and #57 very funny!!
I was trying to start a new topic.
I had just finished downlading some orders and it took me two hours. A while ago someone here on this blog mentioned that it's not time consuming and they don't understand the fuss.
So don't shoot me. I've seen more random stuff mentioned here than that.
#61 Love your analysis!!
I think Mommyish would fit perfectly at TLP.
64 is smoking crack. She doesn't do anything original enough to fit there. Mark my words it. will. never. happen.
61 I am following your logic but it seems like you are pulling #'s out of your ass and that's where you lose me. Everything makes sense until you get to the part where you assume that a digital site's expenses are 35% of gross profit. That makes zero sense, and is inaccurate IMO. Where does your jump to $6500-13000 loss in profits/month come from? Explain those numbers and I'll reserve judgment on your analysis until that point.
65- interesting bc I'm not all that impressed with TLP. It's not all that and a bag of chips to say the least
#65 smoking crack? What a stupid thing to say.
I meant her style. She's better than many designers there. I know it won't happen because TLP has many requirements from designers.
#65 wooooooohhhhhhh get off your high horse!!
Does anyone know what happened to Thaty Borges? I can't find her at Scrap Orchard and she doesn't mention anything on her facebook page.
I think 65 might also be the one calling Mommyish a store hopper. I "found" her during her June Guest spot at TDC. She went from there to Scrapflower until it closed, as was very transparent/forthcoming about her arrival and departure at Oscraps.
Go grind your ax somewhere else.
Not 65 tho I agree, even if she didn't need to be so bitchy about it. I shop there and this is taken from their site "The Lilypad’s digital scrapbooking designs are known for being original – cut, drawn, stitched and crafted by hand – and unique. Original doodles, clever felted pieces, detailed stitching, painted papers and the most unique alphabets & templates in digital scrapbooking comprise the TLP shop." I don't think mommyish does anything that matches that description at all. Don't get me wrong I love her as a designer, but she is like the goddess of CU photo shop styles and TLP is like the shop who is the most opposite of photo shop styles. If that makes sense.
71 - 65 is not the only person who thinks she is a store hopper. She is almost impossible to keep track of and as a customer, I can see it being off-putting. The thing I don't get is why other designers care if someone changes stores a lot. How does it affect you if someone else moves around from store to store? If you think it's bad for business then it's not affecting your business right, just hers? I see store hopping discussed around this blog a lot and I haven't ever understood why designers care what other designers do.
70 Thaty and Studio K both disappeared from SO at the beginning of the month with no fanfare. Studio K is selling off her blog. I'd love the scoop.
I think Mommyish's style would fit in at SO. Unfortunately, I don't shop at SO anymore cuz I hate their ScrapPin gallery. I know you don't need to post in the gallery to buy from the store, but I'm so annoyed with the new gallery that I've given up on the store too.
The 2Peas digital talk has been that they are changing direction to a hybrid approach. I think they are trying to reach a wider audience with coordinating digital kits purchased from big name paper companies.
Trying to appeal to paper scrappers with digital elements that would coordinate with their paper products would be my guess about changing direction.
Ooh, I can see TLP thinks highly of themselves, but I disagree. On the whole, their designer roster is no more original or wonderful than the whole of most of the other bigger stores. They have a few exceptional designers but far more of the I-could-buy-this-anywhere type designers.
I'd hate to see Leah go to TLP or SO. She is a nice person and wouldn't fit in with the snotty attitude displayed in either of those places.
73 - just something else for bitchy people to be bitchy about I guess?
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