What Happened with Amanda Rockwell. She was MIA then made a brief appearance. Over a month now without a peep. Hopefully it is nothing more than just normal life!
Anyone have further thoughts on the new gallery at SO? Feb 21, 2013, 2:33:00 PM
I don't post there and have no plans to now with the changes. My biggest problem is there have been almost ZERO new products the past few weeks at SO. Majority of them have been previous freebies or small parts of former collabs. Nothing actually NEW.
A store of that size with that many designers should have a bunch of NEW products every week.
I didn't like Scrapstacks, so I'm not a fan of SO's gallery either. Since you don't have to upload to their gallery to get credit for a challenge, I can't see any reason to upload there, so it doesn't bother me really.
#198. There is an extreme difference between this explanation and what was actually done. Time will tell whether it's a violation or not. I'm fairly certain Disney will ask for a cease and desist soon enough.
Transformative use requires that you change, or transform, the character enough so that it is no longer a mere copy of the original. -----
Are you joking? They are exactly the same as the originals. However, if you call putting the silhouettes on colored journaling cards and coloring the silhouettes as no longer being mere copies, why yes, you'd be spot on.
#3 Can't you read? It's the official Disney Legal Use of the Disney Characters from the disney copyright's page. It's not a plain explanation. It's the explanation on how Disney allows to use Disney Characters in a transformative way. So the conclusion is that they didn't break any copyright laws. Boo Hoo for all the copyright police on this Smack blog who tried their best to report them without searching for the terms of use Disney has. How stupid of you all to be so negative and rush to report successful designers which are good at what they do. Shame on you.
No 1 - I don't know what you mean about not having to upload to SO gallery to get credit for a challenge. This from one of the forum threads............ Post your layout in the What The Font? gallery and then link it back here in this thread so we can leave you lots of love and you can collect your challenge points! Your layout must be linked to the gallery.
#5 - Those silhouettes are not transformative works. I checked the Disney copyright pages to make sure.
How stupid of you to bring up the fact they are successful, which is completely irrelevant, and for not being able to understand the meaning of the word transformative. It also has nothing to do with being negative.
#198. There is an extreme difference between this explanation and what was actually done. Time will tell whether it's a violation or not. I'm fairly certain Disney will ask for a cease and desist soon enough. -----
You are right, however, sadly, I doubt Disney will do anything at all.
#7 I would really like a link to the Disney copyright page you found. Just righting that you found them and read them does nothing to me. I want proof!
Sahlin and Britt did nothing wrong. Dedicated to all the smart asses here on this smack blog. Here is a copy of the Disney Legal Use of the Disney Characters:
Transformative Use Another way to legally use Disney characters could be to use them in what the law refers to as "transformative use." Transformative use requires that you change, or transform, the character enough so that it is no longer a mere copy of the original. The resulting transformation is sometimes called a "derivative work." For example, if a painter created an original oil painting of his family and included the Disney character Tinkerbell as a family member, his use of Tinkerbell would be fair use because of its commentary that the artist considers Tinkerbell a member of his family. The use of Tinkerbell in the painting could be could be characterized as a transformative use, and the painting could be called a derivative work.
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Too bad Sahlin and Britt didn't try to create journal cards that included those Silhouettes as members of their family. Apparently that would have been OK. *eyeroll*
YOU IDIOT - WHOEVER POSTED THAT EXPLANATION. You lack a brain.
Since when is doing the right thing trying to find someone guilty of something without checking out if they have the permission or not to do so? All I see is a few people trying to satisfy themselves by finding fault somewhere else and feeling superior because they reported them.
#12 If you believe that description of proper use applies at all to those journal cards...you are truly delusional. I said it before, time will tell. They have not transformed the characters at all, just made them into siluettes. I can't see how the description you provided would even begin to describe the usage here.
I can bet that if two lesser known designers were doing the same thing, the Krista and Britt defenders wouldn't be so quick to defend. I've seen it before.
Maybe they don't do anything on every report, but maybe if the same thing is reported several times, or maybe they do what they can and can randomly hit an "unsuspected" designer thinking that they won't do anything. We never know, but if something is never reported, of course, nothing will be done. If they are in their rights, they have nothing to fear, otherwise, they might get an unpleasant surprise one day.
The evil bitches are back!! Wow I'm impressed. Ok it's one thing to smack and another to be mean and hope someone gets sued or in trouble and do whatever you can to accomplish that. I hope you all feel good about yourselves and sleep well at night. Okay so they made a few disney silhouettes and gave them out for free. That's not a crime compared to the nastiness coming out of this smackblog. Shame on you once again!
#21 - the only evil and nastiness on this topic has come from you. And seeing as you the only one who has called anyone a bitch on this subject, I can only assume that you are referring to yourself.
Shame on you. I bet you sleep great at night with your sanctimonious little self, thinking you are better than everyone else.
I going to go and get my purchased Sahlin and Britt-ish kits and give them away for free, because according to you, that's not in the least nasty nor a crime. Good to know.
21 - What Brit & Sahlin did is an ACTUAL crime. Turning someone in for an ACTUAL CRIME. Being rude or "nasty" or even taking sheer delight in someone else's misfortune is actually not a crime anywhere.
If they get busted out and in trouble, they should. What they did is a crime. Maybe a petty crime, maybe even a crime they won't get in trouble for, it doesn't make it any more legal.
Sad when society thinks being rude or bitchy is worthy of the "crime" stamp, but actual criminal activity is looked at as acceptable as long as it's something you want.
Ummm- if they did nothing wrong then who cares if people reported them to Disney? Sounds to me like Krista or Britt has shown up themselves or sent their ct over to try and bully and harass the folks here who are literate and can recognize whether something had been copied or transformed
I wonder how Krista and Britt would deal with their kids if they stole candy bars from a major retailer and gave them to their friends. It should be okay because they kids aren't selling the bars, so they aren't profiting, which makes it okay, right?
Anyone who says it's not the same thing, sorry, but it is the same thing.
who the hell cares, I brought the project mouse kit, I DID NOT down load the freebies. Simple. They did a fantastic job with creating a kit that dosn't referenece copyright areas. So if you think they crossed the line on a FREEBIE just don't dl it.
And before amyone wants to throw the mud around, Im not on anybodies CT, I don't design , Im just a shopper....
I'm the one complaining about the whole situation going overboard and I'm just a customer. I'm impressed how you all made something small into a huge thing.Exaggeration at it's best. And the examples are killing me. Hahahaha.. If their kids stole candy bars...My God you guys are crazy.(Referring to the crazy ones about the disney situation)
Anyway..I Love their new Project Mouse bundle and I can't wait to purchase it and download any freebies available.
#31 I don't want see anyone sued or ruined, that's not the point. The point is if designers keep blatantly violating copyrights it puts a bad light on all designers. It IS akin to your child stealing a chocolate bar and saying it's ok for them to do it as long as they are giving it away for free. Not crazy, just more aware of the law (apparently) than you. You are probably a person who pirates music and movies and thinks that is okay too. I love the kit too, but, the freebies infringed on copyright laws and need to be taken down. End of story.
Does anybody know if Log your memory is going to reopen sometime? Or are they gone?? The forum and gallery have been down for quite some time now supposedly "for maintenance!"
Designers could avoid this whole "Did they break laws with this stuff?" by proving they have the right to use the images. Brit and Sahlin could say "We contacted Disney and we asked to use these images and they approved it. Anyone wanting proof can email us and we'll send you the info from Disney." Or whatever. My point is that, by NOT acknowledging the copyrighted material (made worse by Britt's removal of the "does this violate copyright?" comments on her blog), they look like they've done something wrong. I'm not saying they HAVE done something wrong, but I wouldn't touch those freebies. (I wouldn't touch them anyway. I hate Disney.)
I'm not condoning any illegal behavior, but it's not my job or duty to report such things. It is not my job to police the world and all that everyone else does. Their guilt or innocence is determined by a court and/or their maker. Not me.
Disney has an army of lawyers that I'm sure are perfectly able to use the internet to find offenders if that is what they choose to do to protect their copyright. I'm quite certain they couldn't care less what Jane Boring puts on her digital scrapbooking pages or the insignificant amount the designers make by selling Disney items.
In fact, I'm sure they welcome the free advertising and all the drinking of the Disney kool-aid. That amount of money Shalin and Britt are making doesn't even compare to what Disney makes when people visit their parks and buy their insane amount of merchandising.
You can all debate the legality of such things, but money is the bottom line of everything. Disney makes more than they lose when it comes to their copyrights, so fighting the insignificance of this industry is a waste of their time and money. You can be all self-righteous and claim you're a good person by reporting them, but really, no one gives a shit but you.
I'm not condoning any illegal behavior, but it's not my job or duty to report such things. It is not my job to police the world and all that everyone else does. Their guilt or innocence is determined by a court and/or their maker. Not me. ------------------- To me, this sounds a quite hypocritical. If everyone only relies on the "official bodies" to track down illegal activities, very little will be done. If you have an alarm on your car that gets triggered, don't expect anyone to call the police; you should wait until a patrol officer hears the alarm and catches the burglar. If someone shares illegal kits, let's wait until the "officials" notice since it is nobody's job to report it. If you get some phishing emails, don't report them either; just wait until someone official finds it for you. Why would you report it if someone stole your credit card or your SIN? I am sure the government has lawyers and investigators to take care of it. Just wait for the court to decide if what they did was illegal or not.
Basically, let's hide our head in the sand. It is not our job to report anything (but let's complain if we ever get targeted).
41- That is the former co-owner of Scrap Girls that owns that. She had a falling out with Ro (or rather Ro with her) and took many of the designers with her to form her new store.
You should know that being in possession of stolen goods is also a crime regardless of whether you know it's stolen or not. So by downloading an illegal product whether they give it for free or not makes you just as criminal. Think about napster for a minute. Downloading what you know is illegal is a crime, too.
So downloading those freebies makes you just as culpable of stealing the Disney images as they are. Will that get you caught or punished, no. But it does make you a shitty human being for knowing it and doing it anyway.
I'm the one complaining about the whole situation going overboard and I'm just a customer. I'm impressed how you all made something small into a huge thing.Exaggeration at it's best. -----
Actually, the only ones exaggerating and turning into something huge are the defenders. Not the OP on the candy bars, but I see the relevancy.
I'm not condoning any illegal behavior, but it's not my job or duty to report such things. It is not my job to police the world and all that everyone else does. Their guilt or innocence is determined by a court and/or their maker. Not me. -------
right. If someone breaks into your house and someone else sees it but doesn't report it because it's not their job, I think you'll be singing a different tune.
If you see something illegal being done and don't report it, that's called being an accessory to the crime.
I looked at the Project Mouse stuff being sold in their shops and I don't see the copyright issue? Everything looks pretty generic to me. What exactly is the issue? I don't see any silhouettes or any logos of any kind.
I have an idea. Let us focus on the wrong doings of others and pretend as if it is our moral responsibility to be sure they are punished for them. Morals...smack blog? bwahahahahahah That was a punchline, right? I read back a few pages that this is a smack blog so we can say anything we bloody well please. So I guess morals go out the window with anonymity, except when we are talking about other people...with names and faces and the courage to put themselves out there. Self-righteous cowards. Sure, include me in on it if you want. Wouldn't want you pulling the hypocrite card as long as I'm not allowed to pull the jealousy card. What a farce.
#53 - You are assuming I don't have any morals because I post on a smack blog? What kind of logic is that? Oh, the moronic kind. I don't say anything on this blog that I don't say anywhere else. Maybe you do and therefore you assume that everyone is like you. News flash, they aren't.
#54 - agreeing with yourself is really lame, the ellipses give you away.
And FYI, I didn't post anon on Krista's blog about the copyright issue, I used this name. So try again about names and courage, at least I did, which you didn't.
I looked at the Project Mouse stuff being sold in their shops and I don't see the copyright issue? Everything looks pretty generic to me. What exactly is the issue? I don't see any silhouettes or any logos of any kind. -----
It was made quite obvious that it was the freebie journal cards, more than once in fact. People even said that the bundle itself was not the issue. Do try and keep up.
#55 WTF are you talking about African Butterfly??? Wow I'm impressed you're not anonymous...so what? You used a nickname. Big deal! I'm #54 and agreeing with #53 doesn't mean I wrote it smartass. And guess what..you're the biggest hypocrite of them all.
The new freebie cards are probably in copyright violation too. Both "Disneyland" and "Walt Disney World" are exact copies of the logo, minus the copyright symbol.
Yikes that's the first time I went and read through all the pin-board rules at SO - I go there, but only occasionally. I won't be uploading anything to their new pin-board. I don't like that it is integrated with Facebook and a stranger could click 'like' on it, and it would show on their Facebook ... creepy.
Also I think it's total crap that people who have been uploading layouts there for YEARS cannot re-pin layouts made with designers who have moved on unless they were made for current challenges. What a way to discourage people from buying from guest designers! Kami's response to people who are upset is 'we're really sorry about that' ... um ... don't behave as if it's not in your control when you could very easily change that rule.
Also if people re-pin your layout and someone comments on their re-pin, you never know! That's also creepy.
There's some cool new search functions - you can search by a challenge name or kit name and see everything without flipping back and forth between galleries ... but I don't see that as enough of a benefit for all the other crap that goes with it.
#62 - welcome to the internet! The naivete of some truly astounds me. It's always been like that which is why I've always been cautious about what I post online.
I love when everyone says "OH there are hundreds on there, if you're so blah blah than report them all!"
That's a great attitude to have. It's no fun when your artwork is stolen, it's violating and it hurts to see how little people care about the integrity of art. Even if you report ONE it's something, so don't get too full of yourself.
This isn't high school and no one cares if you're the popular smacker or not. Perhaps other artist would like to entertain the idea that humanity isn't as idiotic as we think, but this blog proves otherwise.
Oh yes I do read and post here too, guilty pleasure. But I don't scream hypocrite or jealous every two seconds either because there are actually more words in the English dictionary to describe things than that. I'm sure I'll get called high and mighty or whatever but you know what, at the end of the day the only people I really have to answer to is my family.
I've been saying sales are obviously hurting over at SO for awhile now. This recent change of galleries tells me I've been correct. All the changes for no apparent reason stink of poor sales and trying anything to get better sales.
To Kami, since I know you read here: How about getting some designer who make regular products (not just repackage old products)? That might help you actually SELL something.
The current designer list is a powerhouse of decent designers who are well known for being low volume producers.
SO really hasn't had a lot of new stuff for awhile - and way too much Project Life crap and journal cards everywhere. Not everyone is doing that stuff and we'd like some new kits. It's fine to make a kit and add journal cards to buy in addition to the kit, at least there is still a new kit.
Most of their new products have been templates, too. No thanks.
I miss Captivated Visions. When Rachel was at SO her kits were great. Now she's doing that Art Journeling stuff, which if your into it is probably great, but, I'm not.
You can be all self-righteous and claim you're a good person by reporting them, but really, no one gives a shit but you. -----
I'm not out to have anyone give a shit about me, the fact that you had to mention that tells me what a self involved person you are. Feb 22, 2013, 3:26:00 PM
The OP said (and you even quoted) no one gives a shit BUT you, not ABOUT you. Honestly.
I'm glad to know all you copyright cops report every single crime you see. I imagine your day must be full of calling the cops every time someone speeds by you on the highway, or talks on their cell phone (if you live where it's against the law), or who runs a red light, etc. Traffic violations alone must keep you so busy, I'm amazed you have time to post on this blog.
It's also great to know you've never broken a single law in your life, including speeding or talking on your cell phone while driving - which have the potential to KILL someone.
SO really hasn't had a lot of new stuff for awhile - and way too much Project Life crap and journal cards everywhere.
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This. Project Life leaves me cold (I've tried it and lasted two or three days with it...it bores me to tears) and since templates can be gotten free and at slashed prices every month at various stores, new stuff in the form of K I T S is very much needed.
I'm sure I'll get called high and mighty or whatever but you know what, at the end of the day the only people I really have to answer to is my family. _______________ No, I'm not going to call you that..I think you're nuts (Comparing your art work to Disney's) and an incredible bore..go answer to your family and piss up a rope while you're doing it..
so Charly (aka Crescent Moon) come into the DCR at DST and says this:
"I received this email today and as i am still pretty new to all the ins and outs and still learning, does what she ask for fall under S4H/Others?" (the pretty new to all this is the funny part)
MarieH - the storehopper extraordinaire says to her:
"OMG Charly be real for once in your life... we all know it's you. And to your question in her message she says "before purchasing any of your commercially-licensed products" so I imagine she talks about commercial use that you sell and she wants to make sure she can use them to do printables, invite she will sell on line. What she will sell will be S4H or S4O."
and Charly responds:
"What is your isue Marie? i know its me, i am not hiding that wth? If you read my blog i am not hiding anything, my store owner knows who i am and my name so do all my Ct's i am on,so please stop trying to start crap. You have enough to deal with without adding me to it.I shouldn't have to explain that to you as i am not hiding who i am. Yes i still consider me new and still learning, sorry i came to dst for help, thought thats what dst was for. Thank you for your answers everyone. sorry i asked, i just wanted to be sure befor answering and didn't mean to start anything. "
a little Sunday humor for you all. Love that two of digi's goofballs have this type of convo.
Still funny to see Charly post that she is "pretty new". How long has she been designing? Didn't she also own a store? Although I agree that everyone is (or should) still learning, I don't think posting as "pretty new" seems to make sense.
71: The current designer list is a powerhouse of decent designers who are well known for being low volume producers.
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YES! Most of them are even way-above-average designers BUT they don't produce with any consistency. Kristin Aagard is a prime example of this.
------- 71, ITA with you...except I think it's funny you mentioned Kristin lacking consistency. I was just thinking how she seems the MOST consistent there lol. (And Bella Gypsy. They produce pretty regularly. It's probably easier when there are two of you: someone to pick up the slack.) I like what I see at SO: I just want to see more of it. Like Amanda Heimann's kit. Love the colors and I always love her style. I just wish she produced more often. But I guess if you're selling enough at SO that you don't need to produce all the time then there isn't incentive to work your butt off and design new stuff for every week.
I'm glad to know all you copyright cops report every single crime you see. I imagine your day must be full of calling the cops every time someone speeds by you on the highway, or talks on their cell phone (if you live where it's against the law), or who runs a red light, etc. Traffic violations alone must keep you so busy, I'm amazed you have time to post on this blog. ---------
It's also great to know you've never broken a single law in your life, including speeding or talking on your cell phone while driving - which have the potential to KILL someone. --------
Who's exaggerating now? FYI, I don't drive, so in fact I have never speeded nor texted while driving.
#81 Get off your high horse you big know it all. I'm not #71 or #72 but you accused me yesterday of posting 2 times and you were wrong so I'm betting you're wrong now too.
On another subject I don't know what's going on. Nothing new in digiland these past 2 months has excited me.(Except for Project Life items like Project Mouse for example) Is is because I have tons of materials already or were they slow months in production?
I'm sure I'll get called high and mighty or whatever but you know what, at the end of the day the only people I really have to answer to is my family. _______________ No, I'm not going to call you that..I think you're nuts (Comparing your art work to Disney's) and an incredible bore..go answer to your family and piss up a rope while you're doing it.. ---
I didn't see where I compared my artwork to Disney's, please take your delusional assumptions elsewhere.
"Go answer to your family and piss up a rope while you're doing it? "
Does your mommy know you're on a site like this?
But seriously, you're funny. Please tell me more about me.
@72: No, I'm not going to call you that..I think you're nuts (Comparing your art work to Disney's) and an incredible bore..go answer to your family and piss up a rope while you're doing it.. _______________
Who was comparing their work to Disney? I see nothing of the sort in the post. It's incredible you can tell someone is a bore from one post as well. As far as answering to family, you clearly missed what that statement was about or are simply a loner with no family to love you. (Awww :( )
Of course, pissing up a rope as I do it would be entertaining for me, since you would be below me as you clearly are and now covered in internet piss.
Bravo!
You have successfully made me actually laugh out loud, I do hope my laughter doesn't hurt the pithiness in your wanna-be smacker heart.
I'm glad to know all you copyright cops report every single crime you see. I imagine your day must be full of calling the cops every time someone speeds by you on the highway, or talks on their cell phone (if you live where it's against the law), or who runs a red light, etc. Traffic violations alone must keep you so busy, I'm amazed you have time to post on this blog.
I'm glad to know that your life is filled with exaggeration. I imagine your day is full of mole hills that are mountains, skinned knees that are broken legs, sneezes that are pneumonia, etc. The fierce jungle that is your suburban garden alone must keep you so busy, I'm amazed you managed to tear yourself away and post on this blog.
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I don't know about boutique cute dolls, but I don't like CV any more. WM[squared] seems too expensive for what you get. She has a few cool things but meh overall.
I'm #101 but not the OP. When I read your comment that saying came to mind. You may wanted to make a point but it may have come out a different way than you intended.
#110 - it's pretty clear that I was being sarcastic too. Or maybe not. No wonder reality TV is the height of entertainment for some - completely plot less and easy to follow, brain need not be engaged.
Of course, pissing up a rope as I do it would be entertaining for me, since you would be below me as you clearly are and now covered in internet piss.
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I'll bet your family would be so proud to read this..show it to them why don't ya..when you're answering to them?? ..and don't answer me..cuz you said you don't have to...i d i o t...
for those of you reading this: do you actually spend money on DS stuff? Or do you CT? Or do both (buy and CT)? Do you design? If so, how much do you spend on DS supplies (not design stuff, but stuff to scrap your pics)?
I used to spend a ton of money (well, "a ton" in my book). Lately I just haven't purchased anything, and I've now got a job so I've got money to spend. (I'm on some awesome CTs, though, so that "saves" me a bit of money since I'm not buying their stuff every week.) I can't decide if I'm just hoarding money because I'm happy to be earning my own (as opposed to just DH bringing home the proverbial bacon), or if I'm just tapped out on DS stuff. Anyone else's buying habits change lately?
#114 - I used to buy a lot of stuff but haven't really bought much of anything at all in the last two, maybe even three, years. Part of it is because I don't have the money but it's also partly because so very little grabs me the way it used to.
Not to mention that I've got so much I haven't used, why add to it?
RE on Captivated Visions: I used to buy all her new stuff and still love what she makes but I can't work with her new style. RE on spending money: I have stuff I haven't used yet and although I am on a few CT, I still have designers I love and would buy from. Trying to cut back on spending money on DS stuff though.
And nobody's talking about the plethora of shops that have been down (for a few days) in the last 6 weeks - some for maintenance, some for downsizing, from what I can see. Are the SO gallery changes a cost cutting measure, do you think?
Captivated Visions - love her old and new, but I'm with 117, I can't work with her new stuff for everyday album pages at all.
I CT and buy. I buy a bit more now than I used to, but only because I have several albums in the works and stocked-up on new supplies. I don't plan on buying much more until DSD in May. I've only wishlisted a few things so far this year. I've been very disappointed with the new offerings in most stores (including SO).
118-I don't follow anything at STS. Their products aren't my thing. I also don't follow many forums and the couple I do, have been up. You mention a "plethora of shops", but fail to mention any by name. How about you talk about them so we can be in the loop?
I'll bet your family would be so proud to read this..show it to them why don't ya..when you're answering to them?? ..and don't answer me..cuz you said you don't have to...i d i o t... ___
LOL. As I'm sure your family would be proud of you? Are you having a small matter of comprehension problem? Because clearly you do not understand the concept of what "answering to and answering" is.
Try to read up on some English a bit before calling me an idiot. But here's a hint, as in I do not have to explain anything I do to anyone, perhaps that would clear up your reading problem. So take it easy on the advanced grasp of the English language and pick up a book once in awhile.
Oh and while we're at it? It's hard to read when you use so many ... can you stop that? I mean, really. Do you pause that much while speaking to? This blog makes me crack up daily yet people continue to think it actually "upsets" someone when they respond. If you're getting pissy off what people are saying on this blog, you need to get out more. This is pure entertainment at its finest.
@114 I CT for one designer and that's all. So yes, I do purchase templates on occasion, I don't purchase kits though unless they are something I really want.
I usually have enough kits from CT work to cover the subject I need. And if I don't they are good suggestions for new kits rather than just shopping elsewhere.
The two stores I usually go to are both up and having no trouble at all, downsizing or otherwise. If all the galleries start switching to the pinning method then my digi-scrap days are limited, honestly. I have no interest in Pinterest or anything related to it.
I saw someone mentioned visiting forums. Do people still do that? I'm on a bunch of facebook groups now, I like it so much better because I don't have to go to other places. All my conversations are in one place. DST is not that busy these days, except for all the newbie designers looking for free advertising. Though their ISO forum is the first place I go when I need something specific, so maybe there is a reason to keep them around?
My buying habits have changed. The kits got too expensive, and instead of buying 50% off for old stuff I didn't like well enough to buy when it was new at places like at TheLilyPad, I've gone to second tier stores. I don't like everything, but I buy what I like.
Not all of the STS Designer Darling contest entries are bad, but a surprising number of them are. What's more surprising is the number of votes those get.
126- I see a lot of people move to FB groups, but I don't think they do the same. FB is good for instantaneous conversations, asking a question and expecting an answer today, but I don't find it convenient to refer to something that was posted yesterday or last week. And if I don't check the group every day, I might even miss a question, a suggestion, a sale, etc. It seems that having most stuff in one long line of posts makes it less useful for more than "today". Of course, forums in general might seem in decline since all those FB groups popped but as you said, some sections like ISO would still need a forum format. Forums might need to adjust, but I am not sure they are necessarily going to all disappear.
I meant in reference to the digi community, I would more than likely participate in challenges just only post them on facebook to share with friends and family.
Did anyone happen to notice that DST can finally be accessed on tapatalk? I did a search for digi scrapping and it came up in the search. People asked it for a mobile version at least 2 years ago. All I can wonder is why they went to the trouble to do it NOW.
#136 - She recolored papers from other designers and used them in her kits. She also sold overlays by another CU designer as her own. This was years ago and somehow she got away with it.
#135 - In the last 12 months, or the last 5 months really. Prior to November, I'd spend $5 a month or less. Starting in November, I've spent $30 or more each month.
People asked it for a mobile version at least 2 years ago. All I can wonder is why they went to the trouble to do it NOW. --------- There was a poll on that last fall. You just found out now.
I don't remember if I did the poll or not. I don't go there much anymore. If I am looking for something specific I'll do a post in the ISO forum but that's about all.
I spend $100 a month and I have tons of digi supplies. These past few days I skipped a few sales because nothing caught my eye. It's about time I start shopping less.
To those who were discussing Pamedalah, I joined a store she WAS opening as a designer years ago (honestly don't even remember the name of it- as far as I remember, it closed before it opened). Not even a week after I joined, she changed all of the requirements, saying we would need to sign on with BOTH PDP and the store we had signed up for, and saying that we needed to put our products in both stores as well as make products that were exclusive to each store.
That reeked of bad news, changing requirements drastically (just about doubling them) a week after I signed on, but she offered us classes that would help us, and as a newer designer, I agreed because, if nothing else, I'd get the help I needed.
AFTER the designers had started loading a ton of kits into the newer shop, it pretty much went bust while she focused on PDP full time. Around that time, I had severe medical issues and had to leave, but I don't remember it being a positive experience at all for any of the designers who were there, and I think a lot left right after me, as well.
She's not someone I'd personally work under again...
And, wow, that designer call ad is kind of a hot mess.
I've dealt some with Pamedalah in the past, and had quite a different experience. I know that PDP had some horrible server issues around the time that she agreed to take over for the previous owner(s), and then she had several personal issues hit one after another. I'm not looking to join the new version of PDP, but not sure I would instantly count it out.
Kimla Designs FB "I'm not a for any witch hunt , but I'm so tired to see so many "poor inspiration" of my designs around lately. It's just like some people are always one step after me, like a shadows, copying my work, my marketing ideas, it's not good feeling at all."
RE: ScrapOrchard's new pin gallery. I just went in to learn about it, and found this:
"The ScrapPin gallery is in no way associated with Pinterest. It is owned by Scrap Orchard and hosted on our servers. When you upload or pin an image to the ScrapPin Gallery, the images are added to our ScrapPin Gallery only.
"However, as with any image on the web now, it could be added to a Pinterest board by a third party. We do not control this and it is something that could potentially have happened in the old gallery or any other gallery in our community.
"With our ScrapPin board, however- only the original artist is allowed to pin or upload an image (add a new image to our board)."
There is nothing Kimla is making that hasn't been made for at least 10-15 years. Long before digital scrapbooking. I expected to see something uber original with that pathetic FB post.
@149 I had the same experience. I joined Polka Dot Plum as a new designer (starting out at her other store Digicrapaganza or whatever) and while she is generally a nice person...her business skills are slacking severely.
The "designer" classes at PDP were great but only focused on papers, it would've been helpful for elements as well. After her personal issues both sites just went downhill despite promises of new and exciting changes, and then the requirement changes and everything else just really made me seriously reconsider being a digi-scrap designer all together. After dealing with her and a previously mentioned horror show, I quit designing before I even gave it a chance because I figured that just might be the norm for store owners.
Now of course, I realize they were totally bonkers in some aspects more than others. Overall, a bad experience and horrid for a new designer looking for a mentor or any help for that matter. I don't see PDP going anywhere or becoming anything like it was when Amy owned it.
I really loved Kimla's designs when she sold at After Five. I have many of her kits. Artsy in an elegant and flowery way. She then moved to Scrapbook Art Avenue as a designer and then ended up owning it by her own at the end. All her kits have disappeared from her shop and now she only sells photo templates, photo cards etc. at Etsy and Scrapbook Art Avenue. I believe that some photo card designers may be copying her style, I see lots of similar stuff flowing around on facebook after she first shows her designs. But in the end everybody is copying someone.
Lorie Davison Create Wings Designs Anna Aspnes (she's been doing that same style for years, well before others, which is why I include her) Kate Hadfield Jacque Larsen Sausan Designs (although she hasn't produced anything new in a long while) Rebecca McMeen
There are others, I just can't think of them now and of course, there are those that have retired.
I bought from Kimla once or twice, it was nice, just not super original.
Anna Aspnes (she's been doing that same style for years, well before others, which is why I include her)
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I just don't get the allure of this woman's work. People rave and rave about it and I think it's mediocre at best. Further, there's lots of other folks who do a similar type work but much better imo. Just a thought..I saw her name and it just came to mind...again. I don't get it! That's all. Carry on.
I just don't get the allure of this woman's work. People rave and rave about it and I think it's mediocre at best. Further, there's lots of other folks who do a similar type work but much better imo. Just a thought..I saw her name and it just came to mind...again. I don't get it! That's all. Carry on. --- I have no idea when Anna started, but when I first heard of and DLed something from her I assumed she was a newbie: jaggies, stray pixels, odd color combos. So, as far as her being "original," I just wish she had better QC. Everything I've gotten from her (freebies, DSA or some other type of pay-per-month thing, and her kits) has had issues. I realize that Anna's style may look better when printed than on my screen, but I don't print everything. I want it to look good on my big monitor. I guess I'll take "unoriginal" if it also means "quality products that look good on your layout."
#170 - I've had no issues with jaggies or stray pixels.
Why do you think her color combos are odd? Honestly curious. I like them but I know color is deeply subjective. I've by passed quite a few kits in my time because the colors were unappealing.
#168 - Yes there are others who do that same style but she did it first. Where are people raving about her?
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I first heard about her when she or someone for her started a Facebook fan page of her work..I do not remember now where all the ravings and posts were about this fan page but they were multiple and very complimentary. I then started looking at her work and..well..like I said..I just don't get it..at all.
#173 - no one said she did. I was asked about who was original and I mentioned her.
Also, it's easy to do something "better" than someone else if you don't have to come up with the idea in the first place. Copying is easy, we all know that.
Pamedelah or whatever her name is the worst thing that ever happened to PDP. I would not recommend anyone applying if the store is only run by here. She has NO business skills whatsoever. She is a HORRIBLE store owner.
I was a designer there when she first took over PDP when Lauren left and it was being run by her and Amy. Selling PDP to Pamedelah was the worst thing they could have ever done!
Pamedelah never released the new releases. CHARLY had to release her own products as she was the only designer motivated enough to continue putting stuff in the store. And it should say A LOT about Pamedelah's vision that CHARLY was selling there since Charly's kits are shit. Not to mention she had Baby Cakes Designer and many other Poser designers. She must have accepted ANYONE that applied.
Also, she expected the store and forums to run themselves and that the designers should have the sole responsibility of bringing people to the forums. She did NOTHING and hardly checked in. Just look at her other store: http://digiscrapaganza.com/ DEAD! She ran that into the ground just like she did PDP.
I would first find out who the other owner/s are and then consider applying because if it is just Pamedelah, I would NEVER recommend PDP to anyone. Hopefully the new co-owners can bring PDP back to what it once was. I think the only way PDP can be successful is for her to close her other piece of shit store and leave the running and ideas to someone else. She has no clue what she is doing.
Lorie Davison Create Wings Designs Anna Aspnes (she's been doing that same style for years, well before others, which is why I include her) Kate Hadfield Jacque Larsen Sausan Designs (although she hasn't produced anything new in a long while) Rebecca McMeen
There are others, I just can't think of them now and of course, there are those that have retired.
^^^ Interesting. I can see these ladies have a great deal of artistic talent, but I would never scrap with anything they release. Just goes to show you how different people's tastes are.
I don't actually need unique scrap kits - if a kit has colours I like and is cute ad has some elements I like, I don't really care if its unique.
re: Kimla exMystique Designs now Studio BeeKay posted about her new products: http://www.etsy.com/shop/StudioBeeKay They looks really quite similar like Kimla's products. They scrapkits also was similar.
Maybe you could apply at Oscraps, it appears there might be some openings?
"These designers have retired and their stores will be closing February 28!! Hurry and grab what you want from these stores before they are gone. -Fei Fei's Stuff -Lifescapes Designs 50% off -Lilly Lane Market Stay in the lOOp with Oscraps"
Interesting. I can see these ladies have a great deal of artistic talent, but I would never scrap with anything they release. Just goes to show you how different people's tastes are. ------
You asked for original, they are original. I don't necessarily buy from everyone on that list, but I do buy from some of them. I do more than just scrap though.
What are the upper level Digi Scrap stores? Best quality? Higest earning? Best service? Which are your favorite and why? Is your opinion from a customer or designer point of view?
171, IDK why but sometimes I just don't like her color combos. And like you said, colors are definitely subjective. Maybe it was my monitor and not the colors themselves. I do need to check my big monitor. But here's an example: http://www.oscraps.com/shop/product.php?productid=33128&cat=383&page=1 If you look at the LOs, people chose either the gray and pink or the gray and yellow. No one used a lot of pink and yellow together. One person used an almost pink-yellow ombre, but otherwise that's it. I like all three of those colors, but not all together. But that's just me.
My opinion is that there are lots of different styles of digital scrapbookers. There are the artsy types, the cutesy types, the project life types, the minimalistic types, the splattered types, the journal types and so on... A cutesy type of course wouldn't like the artsy type. It's normal. For each designer there is a crowd.
Not really however it's not a very interesting topic and it has been done to death.
But in the spirit, or not
I don't know nor care which store is upper level, it's completely irrelevant to my shopping.
No one store has the best quality. Some stores have designers that have both great and mediocre quality.
I wouldn't have a clue which store is the highest earning but at a guess, I would say that SBG is one of them. They seem to be one of the few stores has not resorted to constant sales in the last 12 months.
I've only ever had crappy service once and that was at Designer Digitals year ago. I never went back.
189, 191, Thanks. The only store I have found that I like so far is GP. I have looked into others, but there are so many lower quality stores, and cookie cutter designers, it is hard to find a good site.I want to find a home that not only treats customers well, but the designers too. I tried searching here, since people are so honest about the behind the scenes stuff, but again, so much to weed though.
@192 I hear you there, GP is one of the best I've come across so far (for my preferences). I go to Gingerscraps on occasion but it seems too busy there sometimes.
Are you kidding me??? GP? As in Gotta Pixel? Wow....that shop is full of designers that sell at multiple, multiple stores! I see it more as a dumping ground for designers that like to sell everywhere.....
I think of GP has a mid range. It's above STO, but below TLF, TDC, and SSD. SO seems to be high volume, but as a customer I'm not in love with style or new kits
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Anyone have further thoughts on the new gallery at SO?
Feb 21, 2013, 2:33:00 PM
I don't post there and have no plans to now with the changes. My biggest problem is there have been almost ZERO new products the past few weeks at SO. Majority of them have been previous freebies or small parts of former collabs. Nothing actually NEW.
A store of that size with that many designers should have a bunch of NEW products every week.
I didn't like Scrapstacks, so I'm not a fan of SO's gallery either. Since you don't have to upload to their gallery to get credit for a challenge, I can't see any reason to upload there, so it doesn't bother me really.
#198. There is an extreme difference between this explanation and what was actually done. Time will tell whether it's a violation or not. I'm fairly certain Disney will ask for a cease and desist soon enough.
I do love what is already in the SO store, but I know what you mean about recently nothing new being added.
Transformative use requires that you change, or transform, the character enough so that it is no longer a mere copy of the original.
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Are you joking? They are exactly the same as the originals. However, if you call putting the silhouettes on colored journaling cards and coloring the silhouettes as no longer being mere copies, why yes, you'd be spot on.
#3 Can't you read?
It's the official Disney Legal Use of the Disney Characters from the disney copyright's page.
It's not a plain explanation. It's the explanation on how Disney allows to use Disney Characters in a transformative way.
So the conclusion is that they didn't break any copyright laws.
Boo Hoo for all the copyright police on this Smack blog who tried their best to report them without searching for the terms of use Disney has.
How stupid of you all to be so negative and rush to report successful designers which are good at what they do.
Shame on you.
No 1 - I don't know what you mean about not having to upload to SO gallery to get credit for a challenge.
This from one of the forum threads............
Post your layout in the What The Font? gallery and then link it back here in this thread so we can leave you lots of love and you can collect your challenge points!
Your layout must be linked to the gallery.
#5 - Those silhouettes are not transformative works. I checked the Disney copyright pages to make sure.
How stupid of you to bring up the fact they are successful, which is completely irrelevant, and for not being able to understand the meaning of the word transformative. It also has nothing to do with being negative.
Shame on you!
#198. There is an extreme difference between this explanation and what was actually done. Time will tell whether it's a violation or not. I'm fairly certain Disney will ask for a cease and desist soon enough.
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You are right, however, sadly, I doubt Disney will do anything at all.
How stupid of you all to be so negative and rush to report successful designers which are good at what they do.
Shame on you.
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I will never be ashamed of trying to do the right thing.
You should be ashamed of trying to excuse a wrong doing.
#7 I would really like a link to the Disney copyright page you found.
Just righting that you found them and read them does nothing to me. I want proof!
Sahlin and Britt did nothing wrong.
Dedicated to all the smart asses here on this smack blog.
Here is a copy of the Disney Legal Use of the Disney Characters:
Transformative Use
Another way to legally use Disney characters could be to use them in what the law refers to as "transformative use." Transformative use requires that you change, or transform, the character enough so that it is no longer a mere copy of the original. The resulting transformation is sometimes called a "derivative work." For example, if a painter created an original oil painting of his family and included the Disney character Tinkerbell as a family member, his use of Tinkerbell would be fair use because of its commentary that the artist considers Tinkerbell a member of his family. The use of Tinkerbell in the painting could be could be characterized as a transformative use, and the painting could be called a derivative work.
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Too bad Sahlin and Britt didn't try to create journal cards that included those Silhouettes as members of their family. Apparently that would have been OK. *eyeroll*
YOU IDIOT - WHOEVER POSTED THAT EXPLANATION. You lack a brain.
Since when is doing the right thing trying to find someone guilty of something without checking out if they have the permission or not to do so?
All I see is a few people trying to satisfy themselves by finding fault somewhere else and feeling superior because they reported them.
I meant writing
#12 If you believe that description of proper use applies at all to those journal cards...you are truly delusional. I said it before, time will tell. They have not transformed the characters at all, just made them into siluettes. I can't see how the description you provided would even begin to describe the usage here.
*silhouettes
Since when is doing the right thing trying to find someone guilty of something without checking out if they have the permission or not to do so?
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The fact that when confronted about the copyright issue, they said they didn't need permission. Next ...
PS: Not to mention the fact they couldn't afford to have a license for those Disney characters. Honestly, think before you write!
I can bet that if two lesser known designers were doing the same thing, the Krista and Britt defenders wouldn't be so quick to defend. I've seen it before.
Disney won't do anything. I've reported actual Disney kits being sold on Ebay twice and to Ebay itself - nothing.
Maybe they don't do anything on every report, but maybe if the same thing is reported several times, or maybe they do what they can and can randomly hit an "unsuspected" designer thinking that they won't do anything. We never know, but if something is never reported, of course, nothing will be done. If they are in their rights, they have nothing to fear, otherwise, they might get an unpleasant surprise one day.
I'm glad to see Sahlin has 1860 sales on Etsy.
Now that's what I call a successful designer!
Of course Disney won't do anything, that's what I'm trying to tell all of you all this time. Half the internet is filled with disney stuff.
The evil bitches are back!! Wow I'm impressed. Ok it's one thing to smack and another to be mean and hope someone gets sued or in trouble and do whatever you can to accomplish that. I hope you all feel good about yourselves and sleep well at night. Okay so they made a few disney silhouettes and gave them out for free. That's not a crime compared to the nastiness coming out of this smackblog.
Shame on you once again!
#21 - the only evil and nastiness on this topic has come from you. And seeing as you the only one who has called anyone a bitch on this subject, I can only assume that you are referring to yourself.
Shame on you. I bet you sleep great at night with your sanctimonious little self, thinking you are better than everyone else.
I going to go and get my purchased Sahlin and Britt-ish kits and give them away for free, because according to you, that's not in the least nasty nor a crime. Good to know.
I'm glad to see Sahlin has 1860 sales on Etsy.
Now that's what I call a successful designer!
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You do? Considering that's since 2010, it's not that great. You have an odd idea of successful.
This is successful - see that number of over 13,000 since 2010?
http://www.etsy.com/shop/VNdigitalart
or how about this since only March 2012, sales of over 1,200
http://www.etsy.com/shop/KatarinaArt
I don't know either of these designers, just picked them out of a search.
That's not a crime compared to the nastiness coming out of this smackblog.
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Who was nasty, aside from you?
21 - What Brit & Sahlin did is an ACTUAL crime. Turning someone in for an ACTUAL CRIME. Being rude or "nasty" or even taking sheer delight in someone else's misfortune is actually not a crime anywhere.
If they get busted out and in trouble, they should. What they did is a crime. Maybe a petty crime, maybe even a crime they won't get in trouble for, it doesn't make it any more legal.
Sad when society thinks being rude or bitchy is worthy of the "crime" stamp, but actual criminal activity is looked at as acceptable as long as it's something you want.
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii283/Pamedalah/PDPDTcall032013_zpsddd60cea.jpg
"New Ownership"?? Isn't the new Pamedalah the "New Ownership" that made Polka Dot Plum go to the shits in the first place?
Ummm- if they did nothing wrong then who cares if people reported them to Disney?
Sounds to me like Krista or Britt has shown up themselves or sent their ct over to try and bully and harass the folks here who are literate and can recognize whether something had been copied or transformed
I wonder how Krista and Britt would deal with their kids if they stole candy bars from a major retailer and gave them to their friends. It should be okay because they kids aren't selling the bars, so they aren't profiting, which makes it okay, right?
Anyone who says it's not the same thing, sorry, but it is the same thing.
who the hell cares, I brought the project mouse kit, I DID NOT down load the freebies. Simple.
They did a fantastic job with creating a kit that dosn't referenece copyright areas. So if you think they crossed the line on a FREEBIE just don't dl it.
And before amyone wants to throw the mud around, Im not on anybodies CT, I don't design , Im just a shopper....
#29 You brought it? Hmmmm. Is this a Freudian slip bc you are on their ct?
You know what they say about those who protest too much
I'm the one complaining about the whole situation going overboard and I'm just a customer. I'm impressed how you all made something small into a huge thing.Exaggeration at it's best. And the examples are killing me. Hahahaha..
If their kids stole candy bars...My God you guys are crazy.(Referring to the crazy ones about the disney situation)
Anyway..I Love their new Project Mouse bundle and I can't wait to purchase it and download any freebies available.
"New Ownership"?? Isn't the new Pamedalah the "New Ownership" that made Polka Dot Plum go to the shits in the first place?
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She had a call out for a partner or two. I dont know if she found one or who the new partner would be though.
Oh you guys are going to FLIP over the new disney freebies....LOL!!
#31 I don't want see anyone sued or ruined, that's not the point. The point is if designers keep blatantly violating copyrights it puts a bad light on all designers. It IS akin to your child stealing a chocolate bar and saying it's ok for them to do it as long as they are giving it away for free. Not crazy, just more aware of the law (apparently) than you. You are probably a person who pirates music and movies and thinks that is okay too. I love the kit too, but, the freebies infringed on copyright laws and need to be taken down. End of story.
Does anybody know if Log your memory is going to reopen sometime? Or are they gone?? The forum and gallery have been down for quite some time now supposedly "for maintenance!"
Designers could avoid this whole "Did they break laws with this stuff?" by proving they have the right to use the images. Brit and Sahlin could say "We contacted Disney and we asked to use these images and they approved it. Anyone wanting proof can email us and we'll send you the info from Disney." Or whatever. My point is that, by NOT acknowledging the copyrighted material (made worse by Britt's removal of the "does this violate copyright?" comments on her blog), they look like they've done something wrong. I'm not saying they HAVE done something wrong, but I wouldn't touch those freebies. (I wouldn't touch them anyway. I hate Disney.)
I'm not condoning any illegal behavior, but it's not my job or duty to report such things. It is not my job to police the world and all that everyone else does. Their guilt or innocence is determined by a court and/or their maker. Not me.
Disney has an army of lawyers that I'm sure are perfectly able to use the internet to find offenders if that is what they choose to do to protect their copyright. I'm quite certain they couldn't care less what Jane Boring puts on her digital scrapbooking pages or the insignificant amount the designers make by selling Disney items.
In fact, I'm sure they welcome the free advertising and all the drinking of the Disney kool-aid. That amount of money Shalin and Britt are making doesn't even compare to what Disney makes when people visit their parks and buy their insane amount of merchandising.
You can all debate the legality of such things, but money is the bottom line of everything. Disney makes more than they lose when it comes to their copyrights, so fighting the insignificance of this industry is a waste of their time and money. You can be all self-righteous and claim you're a good person by reporting them, but really, no one gives a shit but you.
#37 Amen!! I totally agree with you! Couldn't have said it better.
Speaking of Disney copyright - holly CR look at this:
http://www.etsy.com/listing/121648083/1-digital-bottle-cap-images-minnie-mouse?ref=sr_gallery_22&ga_search_query=bottle+cap+images&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_ship_to=US&ga_ref=auto5&ga_search_type=all
I'm not condoning any illegal behavior, but it's not my job or duty to report such things. It is not my job to police the world and all that everyone else does. Their guilt or innocence is determined by a court and/or their maker. Not me.
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To me, this sounds a quite hypocritical. If everyone only relies on the "official bodies" to track down illegal activities, very little will be done. If you have an alarm on your car that gets triggered, don't expect anyone to call the police; you should wait until a patrol officer hears the alarm and catches the burglar. If someone shares illegal kits, let's wait until the "officials" notice since it is nobody's job to report it. If you get some phishing emails, don't report them either; just wait until someone official finds it for you. Why would you report it if someone stole your credit card or your SIN? I am sure the government has lawyers and investigators to take care of it. Just wait for the court to decide if what they did was illegal or not.
Basically, let's hide our head in the sand. It is not our job to report anything (but let's complain if we ever get targeted).
anyone know anything about this store or designers
http://shop.happytocreate.com
#39 As I mentioned before Etsy has thousands of Disney products. Whoever wants to be a good citizen should start reporting them one by one.
41- That is the former co-owner of Scrap Girls that owns that. She had a falling out with Ro (or rather Ro with her) and took many of the designers with her to form her new store.
#41 Never heard of any of the designers there. After a quick look around, they are charging WAY too much for what they are offering. JMHO
You should know that being in possession of stolen goods is also a crime regardless of whether you know it's stolen or not. So by downloading an illegal product whether they give it for free or not makes you just as criminal. Think about napster for a minute. Downloading what you know is illegal is a crime, too.
So downloading those freebies makes you just as culpable of stealing the Disney images as they are. Will that get you caught or punished, no. But it does make you a shitty human being for knowing it and doing it anyway.
No wonder pirating is out of control.
I'm the one complaining about the whole situation going overboard and I'm just a customer. I'm impressed how you all made something small into a huge thing.Exaggeration at it's best.
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Actually, the only ones exaggerating and turning into something huge are the defenders. Not the OP on the candy bars, but I see the relevancy.
I'm not condoning any illegal behavior, but it's not my job or duty to report such things. It is not my job to police the world and all that everyone else does. Their guilt or innocence is determined by a court and/or their maker. Not me.
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right. If someone breaks into your house and someone else sees it but doesn't report it because it's not their job, I think you'll be singing a different tune.
If you see something illegal being done and don't report it, that's called being an accessory to the crime.
I'm not condoning any illegal behavior, but it's not my job or duty to report such things.
Are you for real? By not reporting it, you are condoning it. Simple as that.
As I mentioned before Etsy has thousands of Disney products. Whoever wants to be a good citizen should start reporting them one by one.
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Etsy doesn't give a flying fuck. I quit reporting things over there. They are a bunch of hypocritical assholes.
You can be all self-righteous and claim you're a good person by reporting them, but really, no one gives a shit but you.
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I'm not out to have anyone give a shit about me, the fact that you had to mention that tells me what a self involved person you are.
I looked at the Project Mouse stuff being sold in their shops and I don't see the copyright issue? Everything looks pretty generic to me. What exactly is the issue? I don't see any silhouettes or any logos of any kind.
#51 They're going crazy over the free journal cards they're giving away.
I have an idea. Let us focus on the wrong doings of others and pretend as if it is our moral responsibility to be sure they are punished for them. Morals...smack blog? bwahahahahahah That was a punchline, right? I read back a few pages that this is a smack blog so we can say anything we bloody well please. So I guess morals go out the window with anonymity, except when we are talking about other people...with names and faces and the courage to put themselves out there. Self-righteous cowards. Sure, include me in on it if you want. Wouldn't want you pulling the hypocrite card as long as I'm not allowed to pull the jealousy card. What a farce.
#53 AMEN!! Cheers... I Love what you just wrote.
#53 - You are assuming I don't have any morals because I post on a smack blog? What kind of logic is that? Oh, the moronic kind. I don't say anything on this blog that I don't say anywhere else. Maybe you do and therefore you assume that everyone is like you. News flash, they aren't.
#54 - agreeing with yourself is really lame, the ellipses give you away.
And FYI, I didn't post anon on Krista's blog about the copyright issue, I used this name. So try again about names and courage, at least I did, which you didn't.
I looked at the Project Mouse stuff being sold in their shops and I don't see the copyright issue? Everything looks pretty generic to me. What exactly is the issue? I don't see any silhouettes or any logos of any kind.
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It was made quite obvious that it was the freebie journal cards, more than once in fact. People even said that the bundle itself was not the issue. Do try and keep up.
#55 WTF are you talking about African Butterfly??? Wow I'm impressed you're not anonymous...so what? You used a nickname. Big deal!
I'm #54 and agreeing with #53 doesn't mean I wrote it smartass.
And guess what..you're the biggest hypocrite of them all.
#57 - I see you lack some understanding. That's okay, I'm sure someone will explain it to you or you may be forever unsure.
But I would like to know why I'm the biggest hypocrite of all. I don't think it means what you think it means.
I use this name everywhere. Most everyone uses a nickname.
The new freebie cards are probably in copyright violation too. Both "Disneyland" and "Walt Disney World" are exact copies of the logo, minus the copyright symbol.
If you lack the imagination to create it yourself, steal it, pass it off as a freebie and make sure it's Disney, so you can get away with it.
#6
http://scraporchard.com/forum/showthread.php/51008-How-does-this-affect-the-Daily-Challenges
I'm guessing they'll change the challenge wording starting in March.
Yikes that's the first time I went and read through all the pin-board rules at SO - I go there, but only occasionally. I won't be uploading anything to their new pin-board. I don't like that it is integrated with Facebook and a stranger could click 'like' on it, and it would show on their Facebook ... creepy.
Also I think it's total crap that people who have been uploading layouts there for YEARS cannot re-pin layouts made with designers who have moved on unless they were made for current challenges. What a way to discourage people from buying from guest designers! Kami's response to people who are upset is 'we're really sorry about that' ... um ... don't behave as if it's not in your control when you could very easily change that rule.
Also if people re-pin your layout and someone comments on their re-pin, you never know! That's also creepy.
There's some cool new search functions - you can search by a challenge name or kit name and see everything without flipping back and forth between galleries ... but I don't see that as enough of a benefit for all the other crap that goes with it.
#62 - welcome to the internet! The naivete of some truly astounds me. It's always been like that which is why I've always been cautious about what I post online.
I love when everyone says "OH there are hundreds on there, if you're so blah blah than report them all!"
That's a great attitude to have. It's no fun when your artwork is stolen, it's violating and it hurts to see how little people care about the integrity of art. Even if you report ONE it's something, so don't get too full of yourself.
This isn't high school and no one cares if you're the popular smacker or not. Perhaps other artist would like to entertain the idea that humanity isn't as idiotic as we think, but this blog proves otherwise.
Oh yes I do read and post here too, guilty pleasure. But I don't scream hypocrite or jealous every two seconds either because there are actually more words in the English dictionary to describe things than that. I'm sure I'll get called high and mighty or whatever but you know what, at the end of the day the only people I really have to answer to is my family.
I've been saying sales are obviously hurting over at SO for awhile now. This recent change of galleries tells me I've been correct. All the changes for no apparent reason stink of poor sales and trying anything to get better sales.
To Kami, since I know you read here: How about getting some designer who make regular products (not just repackage old products)? That might help you actually SELL something.
The current designer list is a powerhouse of decent designers who are well known for being low volume producers.
SO really hasn't had a lot of new stuff for awhile - and way too much Project Life crap and journal cards everywhere. Not everyone is doing that stuff and we'd like some new kits. It's fine to make a kit and add journal cards to buy in addition to the kit, at least there is still a new kit.
Most of their new products have been templates, too. No thanks.
I miss Captivated Visions. When Rachel was at SO her kits were great. Now she's doing that Art Journeling stuff, which if your into it is probably great, but, I'm not.
You can be all self-righteous and claim you're a good person by reporting them, but really, no one gives a shit but you.
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I'm not out to have anyone give a shit about me, the fact that you had to mention that tells me what a self involved person you are.
Feb 22, 2013, 3:26:00 PM
The OP said (and you even quoted) no one gives a shit BUT you, not ABOUT you. Honestly.
I'm glad to know all you copyright cops report every single crime you see. I imagine your day must be full of calling the cops every time someone speeds by you on the highway, or talks on their cell phone (if you live where it's against the law), or who runs a red light, etc. Traffic violations alone must keep you so busy, I'm amazed you have time to post on this blog.
It's also great to know you've never broken a single law in your life, including speeding or talking on your cell phone while driving - which have the potential to KILL someone.
SO really hasn't had a lot of new stuff for awhile - and way too much Project Life crap and journal cards everywhere.
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This. Project Life leaves me cold (I've tried it and lasted two or three days with it...it bores me to tears) and since templates can be gotten free and at slashed prices every month at various stores, new stuff in the form of
K I T S is very much needed.
#67 I agree. I used to buy quite a bit of her stuff but anymore I wonder why I even open up her newsletter. I don't care for her style anymore.
The current designer list is a powerhouse of decent designers who are well known for being low volume producers.
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YES! Most of them are even way-above-average designers BUT they don't produce with any consistency. Kristin Aagard is a prime example of this.
I'm sure I'll get called high and mighty or whatever but you know what, at the end of the day the only people I really have to answer to is my family.
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No, I'm not going to call you that..I think you're nuts (Comparing your art work to Disney's) and an incredible bore..go answer to your family and piss up a rope while you're doing it..
#72 I love you!
As an art journaler, I'm delighted with Rachel's new style.
so Charly (aka Crescent Moon) come into the DCR at DST and says this:
"I received this email today and as i am still pretty new to all the ins and outs and still learning, does what she ask for fall under S4H/Others?" (the pretty new to all this is the funny part)
MarieH - the storehopper extraordinaire says to her:
"OMG Charly be real for once in your life... we all know it's you. And to your question in her message she says "before purchasing any of your commercially-licensed products" so I imagine she talks about commercial use that you sell and she wants to make sure she can use them to do printables, invite she will sell on line. What she will sell will be S4H or S4O."
and Charly responds:
"What is your isue Marie? i know its me, i am not hiding that wth? If you read my blog i am not hiding anything, my store owner knows who i am and my name so do all my Ct's i am on,so please stop trying to start crap. You have enough to deal with without adding me to it.I shouldn't have to explain that to you as i am not hiding who i am.
Yes i still consider me new and still learning, sorry i came to dst for help, thought thats what dst was for.
Thank you for your answers everyone. sorry i asked, i just wanted to be sure befor answering and didn't mean to start anything. "
a little Sunday humor for you all. Love that two of digi's goofballs have this type of convo.
They both are drama queens.
Still funny to see Charly post that she is "pretty new". How long has she been designing? Didn't she also own a store? Although I agree that everyone is (or should) still learning, I don't think posting as "pretty new" seems to make sense.
71:
The current designer list is a powerhouse of decent designers who are well known for being low volume producers.
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YES! Most of them are even way-above-average designers BUT they don't produce with any consistency. Kristin Aagard is a prime example of this.
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71, ITA with you...except I think it's funny you mentioned Kristin lacking consistency. I was just thinking how she seems the MOST consistent there lol. (And Bella Gypsy. They produce pretty regularly. It's probably easier when there are two of you: someone to pick up the slack.)
I like what I see at SO: I just want to see more of it. Like Amanda Heimann's kit. Love the colors and I always love her style. I just wish she produced more often.
But I guess if you're selling enough at SO that you don't need to produce all the time then there isn't incentive to work your butt off and design new stuff for every week.
I'm glad to know all you copyright cops report every single crime you see. I imagine your day must be full of calling the cops every time someone speeds by you on the highway, or talks on their cell phone (if you live where it's against the law), or who runs a red light, etc. Traffic violations alone must keep you so busy, I'm amazed you have time to post on this blog.
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Oh grow the fuck up.
It's also great to know you've never broken a single law in your life, including speeding or talking on your cell phone while driving - which have the potential to KILL someone.
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Who's exaggerating now? FYI, I don't drive, so in fact I have never speeded nor texted while driving.
I find it amazing that every single time #72 posts, I recognize the style, the next post is in complete agreement. Quit agreeing with yourself.
#81 Get off your high horse you big know it all.
I'm not #71 or #72 but you accused me yesterday of posting 2 times and you were wrong so I'm betting you're wrong now too.
On another subject I don't know what's going on. Nothing new in digiland these past 2 months has excited me.(Except for Project Life items like Project Mouse for example) Is is because I have tons of materials already or were they slow months in production?
@72
I'm sure I'll get called high and mighty or whatever but you know what, at the end of the day the only people I really have to answer to is my family.
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No, I'm not going to call you that..I think you're nuts (Comparing your art work to Disney's) and an incredible bore..go answer to your family and piss up a rope while you're doing it..
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I didn't see where I compared my artwork to Disney's, please take your delusional assumptions elsewhere.
"Go answer to your family and piss up a rope while you're doing it? "
Does your mommy know you're on a site like this?
But seriously, you're funny. Please tell me more about me.
Feb always seems slow in digi land. Designers dont produce as much and customers dont seem to buy as much.
Well now, Charly, you know it's you but which you is it? Idiot.
I'm leaving my husband.
85 so fucking what?
81 Get off your high horse you big know it all.
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I'd rather be a know-it-all than a know-nothing like you :) Have a nice day.
BTW, your response tells me that I'm right.
On another subject I don't know what's going on.
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Good for you for being so self aware.
Wow, bitches be trippin' today! And sorry 85 - hope things get better for you soon!
Some of you (or at least one of you that may post a lot) are extraordinarily crude even for a smack blog. Boringly so.
Some of the young-lings must be on school break.
@72: No, I'm not going to call you that..I think you're nuts (Comparing your art work to Disney's) and an incredible bore..go answer to your family and piss up a rope while you're doing it..
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Who was comparing their work to Disney? I see nothing of the sort in the post. It's incredible you can tell someone is a bore from one post as well. As far as answering to family, you clearly missed what that statement was about or are simply a loner with no family to love you. (Awww :( )
Of course, pissing up a rope as I do it would be entertaining for me, since you would be below me as you clearly are and now covered in internet piss.
Bravo!
You have successfully made me actually laugh out loud, I do hope my laughter doesn't hurt the pithiness in your wanna-be smacker heart.
Wow, bitches be trippin' today!
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For real?
Okay let's start a new subject.
Which designers in your opinion lost their charm when they moved to a new store?
In my opinion:
Boutique Cute Dolls
Captivated Visions
WM[squared] Designs
Todays Sales for those interested:
Nitwit collections 60% spring cleaning sale
Alissa Jones 50% Retiring sale at Scrap Matters
I'm glad to know all you copyright cops report every single crime you see. I imagine your day must be full of calling the cops every time someone speeds by you on the highway, or talks on their cell phone (if you live where it's against the law), or who runs a red light, etc. Traffic violations alone must keep you so busy, I'm amazed you have time to post on this blog.
I'm glad to know that your life is filled with exaggeration. I imagine your day is full of mole hills that are mountains, skinned knees that are broken legs, sneezes that are pneumonia, etc. The fierce jungle that is your suburban garden alone must keep you so busy, I'm amazed you managed to tear yourself away and post on this blog.
More sales:
Connie Price retiring products $1-$1.50 til 2/28
Scrapflower 30% ends today
Anna Aspnes 30% til March 1st
Sugary Fancy 50% coupon on facebook page til 2/28
Sweet Shoppe Designs Flashback Finale this weekend
Okay let's start a new subject.
Which designers in your opinion lost their charm when they moved to a new store?
In my opinion:
Boutique Cute Dolls
Captivated Visions
WM[squared] Designs
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I don't shop with any of them, but I would think it's because they've all moved more than twice early on in their careers.
Anna Aspnes 30% til March 1st
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And me with no money
I don't know about boutique cute dolls, but I don't like CV any more. WM[squared] seems too expensive for what you get. She has a few cool things but meh overall.
#96 Looks like the pot is calling the kettle black!
#99 Before or after shopping?
#101 - gee, what an original observation. I was making a point, did you miss that in your attempt at a witty come back?
#102 - before. I can't spare the money right now.
#100 I agree about CV. I used to gasp when I saw her new stuff at SO but now they do nothing to me.
I'm #101 but not the OP. When I read your comment that saying came to mind. You may wanted to make a point but it may have come out a different way than you intended.
#106 - I was deliberately exaggerating, that was the point, you did get it, but you don't know you got it.
And seriously, can't anyone come up with something more original than pot/kettle?
#107 You want original..how about?
The ass(donkey) called the rooster a bighead.
or "What a big head you have!" said the donkey to the rooster
96 - It's pretty clear the OP was being sarcastic.
#110 - it's pretty clear that I was being sarcastic too. Or maybe not. No wonder reality TV is the height of entertainment for some - completely plot less and easy to follow, brain need not be engaged.
#108 - how about pulling your head out of yours?
Of course, pissing up a rope as I do it would be entertaining for me, since you would be below me as you clearly are and now covered in internet piss.
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I'll bet your family would be so proud to read this..show it to them why don't ya..when you're answering to them?? ..and don't answer me..cuz you said you don't have to...i d i o t...
Some of you (or at least one of you that may post a lot) are extraordinarily crude even for a smack blog. Boringly so.
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I think it's just the one and I agree with you, especially the boring part.
for those of you reading this: do you actually spend money on DS stuff? Or do you CT? Or do both (buy and CT)? Do you design? If so, how much do you spend on DS supplies (not design stuff, but stuff to scrap your pics)?
I used to spend a ton of money (well, "a ton" in my book). Lately I just haven't purchased anything, and I've now got a job so I've got money to spend. (I'm on some awesome CTs, though, so that "saves" me a bit of money since I'm not buying their stuff every week.) I can't decide if I'm just hoarding money because I'm happy to be earning my own (as opposed to just DH bringing home the proverbial bacon), or if I'm just tapped out on DS stuff. Anyone else's buying habits change lately?
#114- Feb has been a crappy month for good digi-stuff.
#114 - I used to buy a lot of stuff but haven't really bought much of anything at all in the last two, maybe even three, years. Part of it is because I don't have the money but it's also partly because so very little grabs me the way it used to.
Not to mention that I've got so much I haven't used, why add to it?
RE on Captivated Visions: I used to buy all her new stuff and still love what she makes but I can't work with her new style.
RE on spending money: I have stuff I haven't used yet and although I am on a few CT, I still have designers I love and would buy from. Trying to cut back on spending money on DS stuff though.
Nobody's talked about the Designer Darling Contest at Stuff to Scrap.
http://stufftoscrap.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?209-Designer-Darling
And nobody's talking about the plethora of shops that have been down (for a few days) in the last 6 weeks - some for maintenance, some for downsizing, from what I can see. Are the SO gallery changes a cost cutting measure, do you think?
Captivated Visions - love her old and new, but I'm with 117, I can't work with her new stuff for everyday album pages at all.
I CT and buy. I buy a bit more now than I used to, but only because I have several albums in the works and stocked-up on new supplies. I don't plan on buying much more until DSD in May. I've only wishlisted a few things so far this year. I've been very disappointed with the new offerings in most stores (including SO).
118-I don't follow anything at STS. Their products aren't my thing. I also don't follow many forums and the couple I do, have been up. You mention a "plethora of shops", but fail to mention any by name. How about you talk about them so we can be in the loop?
118 - Re: STS. No one is talking about it because the entries are beyond horrible and we're all speechless. I think I threw-up a bit...
I'll bet your family would be so proud to read this..show it to them why don't ya..when you're answering to them?? ..and don't answer me..cuz you said you don't have to...i d i o t...
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LOL. As I'm sure your family would be proud of you? Are you having a small matter of comprehension problem? Because clearly you do not understand the concept of what "answering to and answering" is.
Try to read up on some English a bit before calling me an idiot. But here's a hint, as in I do not have to explain anything I do to anyone, perhaps that would clear up your reading problem. So take it easy on the advanced grasp of the English language and pick up a book once in awhile.
Oh and while we're at it? It's hard to read when you use so many ... can you stop that? I mean, really. Do you pause that much while speaking to? This blog makes me crack up daily yet people continue to think it actually "upsets" someone when they respond. If you're getting pissy off what people are saying on this blog, you need to get out more. This is pure entertainment at its finest.
@114 I CT for one designer and that's all. So yes, I do purchase templates on occasion, I don't purchase kits though unless they are something I really want.
I usually have enough kits from CT work to cover the subject I need. And if I don't they are good suggestions for new kits rather than just shopping elsewhere.
The two stores I usually go to are both up and having no trouble at all, downsizing or otherwise. If all the galleries start switching to the pinning method then my digi-scrap days are limited, honestly. I have no interest in Pinterest or anything related to it.
108 - s'exw dei kapou, kapou se xerw!!!
#124 Back at you! Glad to see there's two of us on this blog.
I saw someone mentioned visiting forums. Do people still do that? I'm on a bunch of facebook groups now, I like it so much better because I don't have to go to other places. All my conversations are in one place. DST is not that busy these days, except for all the newbie designers looking for free advertising. Though their ISO forum is the first place I go when I need something specific, so maybe there is a reason to keep them around?
My buying habits have changed. The kits got too expensive, and instead of buying 50% off for old stuff I didn't like well enough to buy when it was new at places like at TheLilyPad, I've gone to second tier stores. I don't like everything, but I buy what I like.
Not all of the STS Designer Darling contest entries are bad, but a surprising number of them are. What's more surprising is the number of votes those get.
126- I see a lot of people move to FB groups, but I don't think they do the same. FB is good for instantaneous conversations, asking a question and expecting an answer today, but I don't find it convenient to refer to something that was posted yesterday or last week. And if I don't check the group every day, I might even miss a question, a suggestion, a sale, etc. It seems that having most stuff in one long line of posts makes it less useful for more than "today". Of course, forums in general might seem in decline since all those FB groups popped but as you said, some sections like ISO would still need a forum format. Forums might need to adjust, but I am not sure they are necessarily going to all disappear.
108 - s'exw dei kapou, kapou se xerw!!!
Feb 24, 2013, 6:52:00 AM
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#124 Back at you! Glad to see there's two of us on this blog.
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Sybil, is that you?
I can't see the entries for Designer Darling as I have to log in and quite honestly, I'm not curious enough to create an account just for that.
#130-Sybil??? I guess there's more than 2 of us on this blog.
STS is a bunch of junk and the owner is a pirate. I can't believe that place is still open.
I've actually spent more on digi scrap supplies this year than I have in the past, but I no longer design so I have less access to "free" stuff.
I wish I could find digiscrap FB groups to replace forums. It's so much more convenient than forums.
#130-Sybil??? I guess there's more than 2 of us on this blog.
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You reply is hilarious, especially as you don't appear to know who Sybil is.
Thanks for the chuckle.
I've actually spent more on digi scrap supplies this year than I have in the past
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Not being snarky, but do you mean January and February of this year or the last 12 months? Just honestly curious.
I know that when I stopped designing, my spending actually cut down dramatically as my design money was my scrapping money.
Why is the owner of STS a pirate? I'm genuinely curious - not trying to be rude.
If all the galleries start switching to the pinning method then my digi-scrap days are limited,
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I'm with you on this one!
Why should your digi scrap days be limited if galleries switched to pinning?
I still scrap, I just don't post online anymore, haven't for years.
@138
I meant in reference to the digi community, I would more than likely participate in challenges just only post them on facebook to share with friends and family.
#139 - gotcha.
Did anyone happen to notice that DST can finally be accessed on tapatalk? I did a search for digi scrapping and it came up in the search.
People asked it for a mobile version at least 2 years ago. All I can wonder is why they went to the trouble to do it NOW.
#136 - She recolored papers from other designers and used them in her kits. She also sold overlays by another CU designer as her own. This was years ago and somehow she got away with it.
#135 - In the last 12 months, or the last 5 months really. Prior to November, I'd spend $5 a month or less. Starting in November, I've spent $30 or more each month.
People asked it for a mobile version at least 2 years ago. All I can wonder is why they went to the trouble to do it NOW.
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There was a poll on that last fall. You just found out now.
#143 - thanks for answering.
#142 - this sounds familiar, who is the owner of STS?
DST has been on tapatalk for a while now, sorry you just figured that out.
I don't remember if I did the poll or not. I don't go there much anymore. If I am looking for something specific I'll do a post in the ISO forum but that's about all.
I spend $100 a month and I have tons of digi supplies. These past few days I skipped a few sales because nothing caught my eye. It's about time I start shopping less.
To those who were discussing Pamedalah, I joined a store she WAS opening as a designer years ago (honestly don't even remember the name of it- as far as I remember, it closed before it opened). Not even a week after I joined, she changed all of the requirements, saying we would need to sign on with BOTH PDP and the store we had signed up for, and saying that we needed to put our products in both stores as well as make products that were exclusive to each store.
That reeked of bad news, changing requirements drastically (just about doubling them) a week after I signed on, but she offered us classes that would help us, and as a newer designer, I agreed because, if nothing else, I'd get the help I needed.
AFTER the designers had started loading a ton of kits into the newer shop, it pretty much went bust while she focused on PDP full time. Around that time, I had severe medical issues and had to leave, but I don't remember it being a positive experience at all for any of the designers who were there, and I think a lot left right after me, as well.
She's not someone I'd personally work under again...
And, wow, that designer call ad is kind of a hot mess.
I've dealt some with Pamedalah in the past, and had quite a different experience. I know that PDP had some horrible server issues around the time that she agreed to take over for the previous owner(s), and then she had several personal issues hit one after another. I'm not looking to join the new version of PDP, but not sure I would instantly count it out.
Kimla Designs FB
"I'm not a for any witch hunt , but I'm so tired to see so many "poor inspiration" of my designs around lately. It's just like some people are always one step after me, like a shadows, copying my work, my marketing ideas, it's not good feeling at all."
She should get over herself. Her shit is pretty flat and boring.
Was is PDP? it is not on the list on the right.
Polka Dot Plum
RE: ScrapOrchard's new pin gallery. I just went in to learn about it, and found this:
"The ScrapPin gallery is in no way associated with Pinterest. It is owned by Scrap Orchard and hosted on our servers. When you upload or pin an image to the ScrapPin Gallery, the images are added to our ScrapPin Gallery only.
"However, as with any image on the web now, it could be added to a Pinterest board by a third party. We do not control this and it is something that could potentially have happened in the old gallery or any other gallery in our community.
"With our ScrapPin board, however- only the original artist is allowed to pin or upload an image (add a new image to our board)."
151- Where/who is Kimla? Did a Google search and only found some designer who does photo templates.
#156 You got her. That is what she does, photo templates. From what I get on her Facebook page anyway.
Formerly she created scrapkits, but lately she sells only photo templates and scrapbook papers on Etsy. I liked her kits.
Ziggle Designs by Kami @ Scrap Orchard?
Hm, Kami, not Kimla. sorry.
Kimla used to do kits, mostly realistic, I have some of her stuff. Obviously the photo templates are selling better for her.
There is nothing Kimla is making that hasn't been made for at least 10-15 years. Long before digital scrapbooking. I expected to see something uber original with that pathetic FB post.
#162 - spot on. Even when she was making kits they weren't super original.
@149 I had the same experience. I joined Polka Dot Plum as a new designer (starting out at her other store Digicrapaganza or whatever) and while she is generally a nice person...her business skills are slacking severely.
The "designer" classes at PDP were great but only focused on papers, it would've been helpful for elements as well. After her personal issues both sites just went downhill despite promises of new and exciting changes, and then the requirement changes and everything else just really made me seriously reconsider being a digi-scrap designer all together. After dealing with her and a previously mentioned horror show, I quit designing before I even gave it a chance because I figured that just might be the norm for store owners.
Now of course, I realize they were totally bonkers in some aspects more than others. Overall, a bad experience and horrid for a new designer looking for a mentor or any help for that matter. I don't see PDP going anywhere or becoming anything like it was when Amy owned it.
I really loved Kimla's designs when she sold at After Five. I have many of her kits. Artsy in an elegant and flowery way.
She then moved to Scrapbook Art Avenue as a designer and then ended up owning it by her own at the end. All her kits have disappeared from her shop and now she only sells photo templates, photo cards etc. at Etsy and Scrapbook Art Avenue.
I believe that some photo card designers may be copying her style, I see lots of similar stuff flowing around on facebook after she first shows her designs. But in the end everybody is copying someone.
#163 I'm really interested to find out who you find "original" in digiland.
#166 - I don't buy from all of these designers
Lorie Davison
Create Wings Designs
Anna Aspnes (she's been doing that same style for years, well before others, which is why I include her)
Kate Hadfield
Jacque Larsen
Sausan Designs (although she hasn't produced anything new in a long while)
Rebecca McMeen
There are others, I just can't think of them now and of course, there are those that have retired.
I bought from Kimla once or twice, it was nice, just not super original.
Anna Aspnes (she's been doing that same style for years, well before others, which is why I include her)
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I just don't get the allure of this woman's work. People rave and rave about it and I think it's mediocre at best. Further, there's lots of other folks who do a similar type work but much better imo. Just a thought..I saw her name and it just came to mind...again. I don't get it! That's all. Carry on.
#168 - Yes there are others who do that same style but she did it first. Where are people raving about her?
People rave about a lot of designers that I think are mediocre at best.
I just don't get the allure of this woman's work. People rave and rave about it and I think it's mediocre at best. Further, there's lots of other folks who do a similar type work but much better imo. Just a thought..I saw her name and it just came to mind...again. I don't get it! That's all. Carry on.
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I have no idea when Anna started, but when I first heard of and DLed something from her I assumed she was a newbie: jaggies, stray pixels, odd color combos. So, as far as her being "original," I just wish she had better QC. Everything I've gotten from her (freebies, DSA or some other type of pay-per-month thing, and her kits) has had issues. I realize that Anna's style may look better when printed than on my screen, but I don't print everything. I want it to look good on my big monitor.
I guess I'll take "unoriginal" if it also means "quality products that look good on your layout."
#170 - I've had no issues with jaggies or stray pixels.
Why do you think her color combos are odd? Honestly curious. I like them but I know color is deeply subjective. I've by passed quite a few kits in my time because the colors were unappealing.
#168 - Yes there are others who do that same style but she did it first. Where are people raving about her?
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I first heard about her when she or someone for her started a Facebook fan page of her work..I do not remember now where all the ravings and posts were about this fan page but they were multiple and very complimentary. I then started looking at her work and..well..like I said..I just don't get it..at all.
Just because she did it first does not mean she did/does it best!
#173 - no one said she did. I was asked about who was original and I mentioned her.
Also, it's easy to do something "better" than someone else if you don't have to come up with the idea in the first place. Copying is easy, we all know that.
Pamedelah or whatever her name is the worst thing that ever happened to PDP. I would not recommend anyone applying if the store is only run by here. She has NO business skills whatsoever. She is a HORRIBLE store owner.
I was a designer there when she first took over PDP when Lauren left and it was being run by her and Amy. Selling PDP to Pamedelah was the worst thing they could have ever done!
Pamedelah never released the new releases. CHARLY had to release her own products as she was the only designer motivated enough to continue putting stuff in the store. And it should say A LOT about Pamedelah's vision that CHARLY was selling there since Charly's kits are shit. Not to mention she had Baby Cakes Designer and many other Poser designers. She must have accepted ANYONE that applied.
Also, she expected the store and forums to run themselves and that the designers should have the sole responsibility of bringing people to the forums. She did NOTHING and hardly checked in. Just look at her other store:
http://digiscrapaganza.com/
DEAD! She ran that into the ground just like she did PDP.
I would first find out who the other owner/s are and then consider applying because if it is just Pamedelah, I would NEVER recommend PDP to anyone. Hopefully the new co-owners can bring PDP back to what it once was. I think the only way PDP can be successful is for her to close her other piece of shit store and leave the running and ideas to someone else. She has no clue what she is doing.
#166 - I don't buy from all of these designers
Lorie Davison
Create Wings Designs
Anna Aspnes (she's been doing that same style for years, well before others, which is why I include her)
Kate Hadfield
Jacque Larsen
Sausan Designs (although she hasn't produced anything new in a long while)
Rebecca McMeen
There are others, I just can't think of them now and of course, there are those that have retired.
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Interesting. I can see these ladies have a great deal of artistic talent, but I would never scrap with anything they release. Just goes to show you how different people's tastes are.
I don't actually need unique scrap kits - if a kit has colours I like and is cute ad has some elements I like, I don't really care if its unique.
I don't actually need unique scrap kits - if a kit has colours I like and is cute ad has some elements I like, I don't really care if its unique.
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Ditto this.
Lorie Davison
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Here's another one...she's extremely talented as an artist..but I have absolutely no use for her kits...ever..
re: Kimla
exMystique Designs now Studio BeeKay posted about her new products: http://www.etsy.com/shop/StudioBeeKay
They looks really quite similar like Kimla's products. They scrapkits also was similar.
Maybe you could apply at Oscraps, it appears there might be some openings?
"These designers have retired and their stores will be closing February 28!!
Hurry and grab what you want from these stores before they are gone.
-Fei Fei's Stuff
-Lifescapes Designs 50% off
-Lilly Lane Market
Stay in the lOOp with Oscraps"
Speaking of things I wouldn't scrap with, Oscraps storefront artwork is sort of odd. Does that mean they're trying to turn into an Anna style store?
Speaking of whom, who does her style better than she does?
Interesting. I can see these ladies have a great deal of artistic talent, but I would never scrap with anything they release. Just goes to show you how different people's tastes are.
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You asked for original, they are original. I don't necessarily buy from everyone on that list, but I do buy from some of them. I do more than just scrap though.
Here's another one...she's extremely talented as an artist..but I have absolutely no use for her kits...ever..
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Bully for you.
#180 Thank you for the info about the sales. I appreciate it.
What are the upper level Digi Scrap stores? Best quality? Higest earning? Best service? Which are your favorite and why? Is your opinion from a customer or designer point of view?
Well, that shut things right down.
171, IDK why but sometimes I just don't like her color combos. And like you said, colors are definitely subjective. Maybe it was my monitor and not the colors themselves. I do need to check my big monitor. But here's an example: http://www.oscraps.com/shop/product.php?productid=33128&cat=383&page=1
If you look at the LOs, people chose either the gray and pink or the gray and yellow. No one used a lot of pink and yellow together. One person used an almost pink-yellow ombre, but otherwise that's it. I like all three of those colors, but not all together. But that's just me.
My opinion is that there are lots of different styles of digital scrapbookers.
There are the artsy types, the cutesy types, the project life types, the minimalistic types, the splattered types, the journal types and so on...
A cutesy type of course wouldn't like the artsy type. It's normal. For each designer there is a crowd.
#185 I'm a customer. In my opinion upper level stores are TLP and SSD. Best quality it depends on the designer.
#187 - see what you mean but that's a hard one for me as I don't like yellow very much at all.
Well, that shut things right down.
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Not really however it's not a very interesting topic and it has been done to death.
But in the spirit, or not
I don't know nor care which store is upper level, it's completely irrelevant to my shopping.
No one store has the best quality. Some stores have designers that have both great and mediocre quality.
I wouldn't have a clue which store is the highest earning but at a guess, I would say that SBG is one of them. They seem to be one of the few stores has not resorted to constant sales in the last 12 months.
I've only ever had crappy service once and that was at Designer Digitals year ago. I never went back.
I don't have favorites.
I'm a customer, former designer.
Did not mean to "shut things right down."
189, 191, Thanks. The only store I have found that I like so far is GP. I have looked into others, but there are so many lower quality stores, and cookie cutter designers, it is hard to find a good site.I want to find a home that not only treats customers well, but the designers too. I tried searching here, since people are so honest about the behind the scenes stuff, but again, so much to weed though.
#192 - you didn't shut things down.
There's just nothing to discuss right now.
@192 I hear you there, GP is one of the best I've come across so far (for my preferences). I go to Gingerscraps on occasion but it seems too busy there sometimes.
Are you kidding me??? GP? As in Gotta Pixel? Wow....that shop is full of designers that sell at multiple, multiple stores! I see it more as a dumping ground for designers that like to sell everywhere.....
And yet they have a minimum sales requirement of $400 per month, so I'm guessing that it quite well.
I think of GP has a mid range. It's above STO, but below TLF, TDC, and SSD.
SO seems to be high volume, but as a customer I'm not in love with style or new kits
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