Monday, October 1, 2012

October

Smack away.

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Anonymous said...

199:

Can you say blatant copyright infringement:

http://www.digishoptalk.com/products/showphoto.php?photo=114544

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Yep. But I love it! I wish those companies would make kits.

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^^^ITA. I'd love it if Disney and Nintendo, etc put out digital scrap kits. I'm sure they won't because of piracy, but OMG, it would be great!

and re Sahlin Studio: Based on the preview, how is her kit copyright infringement? The kit is intended to be used with Snow White pics, but all I see is a blue, red, and white kit. You could use it with Fourth of July pics. Or nature pics. The Snow White fairy tale is NOT owned by Disney. If Sahlin had included a princess wearing a yellow skirt and red/blue shirt with a high white collar, then she'd have problems. And if you think it's infringing, go ahead and call Disney.

Anonymous said...

Let's go back to smacking Charly again it was much more entertaining.

Charly, how are your sisters?

Anonymous said...

#3, HUH? I missed where someone said she was infringing?

Anonymous said...

#3 The copyright complain wasn't about Sahlin Studio. Read the previous comments, you lost a few there.

Anonymous said...

Here, let me smack myself! I'm post 3. I clicked on the link I quoted and I also looked for Sahlin's Snow White-inspired kit...and then, after looking at both kits, I forgot which was the infringement one and which was just being talked about. So, smack me for being stupid. I'm going to go grab a cup of coffee to help me wake up. Apparently I need it. (And I Wishlisted Sahlin's kit. There's no way I'd spend more than $4 on it, so hopefully TLP has a 50% off sale for DSD. (Yeah, right. Like that's gonna happen.))

Anonymous said...

#7 40% is the best they has so far. You can wait til the product arrives at their something old something new sales on Wednesdays if you're not in a hurry. That's what I do. I prefer to buy as many digi supplies as possible with a specific amount of money. I'm not in a rush and a good sale always gets me excited. After so many years buying digi supplies I can't buy something at regular price. So I make a huge wishlist and wait with enough money on my prepaid credit card for the right moment. I shop all the time but only when I find sales.

Anonymous said...

#7 I meant on Wednesdays some products are reduced to 50% and on Black Friday or DSD they have 35-40%.

Anonymous said...

#8 (and 9): I'm the same way. I only buy DS things on sale. Thanks for letting me know what their DSD sale will be. I check my wishlist every week for SOSN, but I was hoping the kit would be a really great price for DSD since it's coming up. Oh well.

Anonymous said...

191 - Sahlin is popular because her kits are scrapable and worthy of my photos. People, like my family and friends, who aren't into the latest trends (Anna Aspenes style or whatever is newest) like the LOs I make with Sahlin kits. I also think that 5 years from now I won't look at them and cringe over how dated they look. I hope.

HOWEVER, they are overpriced, as so much in the digiworld is, no matter what the blabber mouths here say, and I can either copy the parts I like and want to use, or I can wait for a sale.

Anonymous said...

HOWEVER, they are overpriced, as so much in the digiworld is

People who feel this way have obviously never paper scrapped. hehe

The same supplies in paper would cost more like $50 for the same thing. It amazes me how people think digi is so expensive. Try being the designer and then say that.

Anonymous said...

Hi Laura B!

Anonymous said...

12 said "People who feel this way have obviously never paper scrapped. hehe

The same supplies in paper would cost more like $50 for the same thing. It amazes me how people think digi is so expensive. Try being the designer and then say that."
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Didn't we just have a discussion about WHY DS shouldn't be super expensive? Paper supplies can only be used once; they have mass production and pay many people to make/ship/sell the products, etc etc etc. DS products are designed by one person and then sold to the customer via a webstore. If a team of people in R&D and HR and advertising and production and sales, then yeah, DS would cost more. But DS is almost a direct-to-consumer business. The only things in between the designer and the customer are CU products (because the designer sells it to another designer who then recolors it) and the webstore owner (meaning, the site owners get a percentage of the money). But really, that's it except PS (which of course isn't inexpensive but is not necessary to design).
So, a kit's sale price isn't high. BUT, a designer should be selling a kit many times. Just like iTunes sells a song many (many, many) times.

Anonymous said...

Oh, and as always, if you think designing is too expensive, then stop. No one is making you design. If you can make more money working at MacDonald's, then stop designing and start cooking. Or rather, reheating.
And I used to design, so saying how expensive designing is really burns me. I used to paper scrap, so I know how much a piece of paper costs. (And I know how much a pack of stickers costs, or a paper accordion flower pack costs, if you want to say that traditional scrapping is so expensive.) So please, post 12, explain to me why DS is so expensive for you? Are you scanning paper that's backed with gold? Are your flower elements made out of platinum?

Anonymous said...

#15 you are a pompous ass. If digiscrap products can be used over and over indefinitely, how is it logical for them to be ridiculously cheap? A digi-kit for $7 versus a pack of paper for $25 does not seem logical, even taking out all the behind the scenes people needed for paper products. The fact remains that the digi-community wants something for nothing and certain designers will continue to under-value their product so they can under-cut their competition. So get off your fucking high horse already.

Anonymous said...

Did you see the photo of herself she gave to SO for their newsletter? That's the face she makes for a photo she's going to use for her business? It makes her look like an immature, high school mean girl. I've always thought she was a wannabe. She tries too hard to be cool or trendy (or something).
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OMG do you even realize how stupid you sound? All the designers at SO took photos of themselves making faces a couple of months ago. Most of them still have them as avatars in the forum, some even used them on FB. This is her avatar from that time frame. All that BS you said just makes you sound jealous.

Anonymous said...

I made the mistake and bought tons of paper supplies because I wanted to make hybrid albums with all my photos and then Digital scrapbook came out. What a releif. Anyway.. I have many papers and elements and I don't think making a real scrapbook page costs that much in the end. Prices have gone down and you can find sales everywhere. A sheet of paper these days costs 25-50 cents and lots of good stickers and elements are at $1. Yes you can't use them again like you can with digital products, that's a bummer. But there's nothing like digital scrapbook. No mess and you can buy and buy and buy stuff and you can fit it all in an EHD.

Anonymous said...

So when exactly is DSD? November 3rd? I need to get my wishlists up to date with previews, regular prices and folders by store so when it's time to shop I'll be ready.

Anonymous said...

Yes Sahlin Studio is popular. I remember last year when the Lily Pad had a contest in the forums where we could win one favorite product from each designer. They made a seperate forum post for each designer and we commented which product we would like to win from each one. At the end I saw the numbers. Sahlin Studio had the most comments and her comments were double almost triple from the second most wanted designer there.
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Okay, but is she popular outside of TLP?

Anonymous said...

I'm not jealous of Laura but I also think that photo is really unprofessional. I realize all the designers have photos of themselves making faces - some attempt to make them seem playful I guess so we like them more? Doesn't work for me. Seems very highschool (and no, I'm not the same person who commented before)

Anonymous said...

I am the OP of the comment about Laura's photo and I stand by what I said. I don't hang out at SO, and I had no idea the entire group of them have stupid-faced photos being used as avatars. I agree with #21 that it seems very high school and it doesn't work for me, either. Those kind of antics make me even less likely to shop or hang out there.

Trust me, #17, I'm not jealous of Laura. There is nothing about her that I would want to be. Not one thing.

Anonymous said...

Okay, but is she popular outside of TLP?

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Yes. I don't "hang-out" at TLP and I buy her kits.

Anonymous said...

#21 & 23, with that uptight attitude, you would probably not like it there.

Anonymous said...

oops, 21 & 22. I'm sure you'll smack me for that.

Anonymous said...

That image link doesn't go to an image anymore.

Anonymous said...

#24, there's something we agree on that I wouldn't like SO. Right, I don't. Bunch of stuck-up bitches. You probably fit right in.

Anonymous said...

Yes, I am stuck-up when it comes to uptight people with no sense of humor.

Anonymous said...

16: #15 you are a pompous ass. If digiscrap products can be used over and over indefinitely, how is it logical for them to be ridiculously cheap?
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Yes, they can be used over and over...but they're usually not. (Did you read the previous page? That was part of the comments there. I didn't think I'd need to repeat what others have stated, but your idiocy has proved that necessary.)
And no, those who charge less are not undercutting higher-priced designers. Does every clothing company charge the same for a pair of jeans. Nope. Walmart has $20 jeans, but some designer jeans cost ten times that. So, I think you are the one on a "fucking high horse." But I won't tell you to get off of it. This may be a smack blog, but you're entitled to your ridiculously self-indulgence and whiny complaints (and your snotty attitude). I'm not going to lower myself to swearing at you to make my point. In fact, your anger just shows that my response hit a nerve. Are you a designer who's worried that maybe you're not making enough money? Again, I'll say that designers who complain about not making enough money should probably retire. Or at least work better on marketing their product, no matter its price point. I buy expensive kits and I buy cheap kits. But I hate when designers talk about what the price point should be as if they're high-handed gods bestowing their kits upon us as if they're manna from heaven. Get a grip.
Better yet, gather up the other Designing Gods onto Mount Digitopolis and have everyone raise their prices. We, the lowly buyers, can't complain anymore if we have to buy overpriced kits and you, the Designing Gods, will all make enough money that you can hopefully stop complaining. But then, what would your sad, little life be without the ability to come onto an anonymous blog and complain about how torturous it is to make and price kits?

Anonymous said...

I can't believe I wasted moments of my life reading that rant.

Anonymous said...

#29- I totally agree that some designers over-price their kits. Some price their kits higher than what the actual quality of the kit is worth.

Anonymous said...

30-that.

Anonymous said...

I can't believe I wasted moments of my life reading that rant.
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At least it's readable. Some of the stuff people write on here is so bad that I can't get past the first run-on sentence.

Anonymous said...

It's official : Thaty Borges Designs is going at SO. She has just announced it on her FB page.

Anonymous said...

Is SO that desperate for designers that it's taking anyone now?

Anonymous said...

You can't mean to tell me that Gina from DDE isn't high priced at $7.99 for her tiny kits?

Anonymous said...

#30-I agree.

Anonymous said...

#36 Yes she is but she always has coupons for 50% and tuesday $2.00 sales so if you're a little patient you'll find her stuff at a great price.

Anonymous said...

Paper vs. Digi: I get paid 10 times to do a paper line than I make off the same line in digital. No digital store owner is making the kind of cash the paper manufacturers are, and they are still laughing all the way to the bank.

Anonymous said...

tell us something we don't know, #39.

Anonymous said...

I;m #179 - all I can say is that I got a newsletter from Christine Smith requesting that to subscribe to her RSS feed as she is canceling her newsletter due to it costing $50 a month....I probably signed up for a while ago when I first started out.

I don't know anything about Laura B. - I don't get her newsletters...but I double checked my email and it was from Christine Smith Digital Designs....

Anonymous said...

#40 Don't be snotty. We're not all in the business. I would like to know more.

Anonymous said...

LOL! Telling someone not to be snotty on a smack blog? If you want nice, go play at a forum.

Anonymous said...

#43 Hahaha Hilarious!!
Now shut the fuck up and let the rest of us learn something new.

Anonymous said...

Ok After Five designers are slipping away one by one.
Latest update of the designers(what I found out from facebook)if anyone knows something please tell us more..
Sugary Fancy:Moving to Scrap Orchard October 29th
Thaty Borges: Moving to Scrap Orchard October 29th
Boutique Cute Dolls:Announcement October 27
K Studio:Announcement soon

Createwings Designs
Dunia Designs
emeto designs
et designs
HGD by Laurie Ann
Jofia Designs-RETIRED
Lily Designs
NewlifeDreamsDesigns
Palvinka Designs
Red Ivy Design

Anonymous said...

If digital scrapping is not worth the money, make the items yourself, ye who know it all. Stop the personal attacks, it is just plain mean. If you don't like someone's design or scrapping style, look away. The true ugliness here is in your hearts.

Anonymous said...

..and you have the right to tell people how and what to post because.....?????

Anonymous said...

BECAUSE IT'S JUST MEAN OK!

Lol, the smack blog is the wrong place to be if you want to avoid "mean"

Anonymous said...

I love K Studio & Dunia Designs. Wish they'll go to TLP which is my favorite store. Was sad Kristin Aagard who's another of my top favorite went to SO which isn't a store I like.

Anonymous said...

There is a difference between smacking and being mean.

Anonymous said...

What is the difference?

Anonymous said...

#50 I agree!
Smacking is gossiping, giving your true opinion about a design or a designer.
You can do that without being mean.

Mean people don't know how to be nice.
Nice people can smack without being mean.

Anonymous said...

Don't kid yourself thinking that you can "be nice" on this blog. It's awful if you are the one being smacked even if it is done without curse words and "meaness". It's all about perspective.

I admit that even the nicest things I say on this blog are mean.

Anonymous said...

Agree, #53. Unless your name has ever shown up here, you have no idea how it feels to be on the receiving end of smack. Whether or not what is posted is true, it's not usually "nice" and it's not really ever intended to be!

Anonymous said...

I didn't say that most smack on this blog is nice. On the contrary it's very mean. I'm saying that we can critisize without being mean. Those who choose to be mean are mean as people and they don't know how to be nice anyway. I've also received smack and it was pretty mean so I know what you mean.

Anonymous said...

I've been on the receiving end. Not such a big deal.

Anonymous said...

#55 did you mean to use the word mean so many times in your anti-mean post? I mean people are mean and, by the way, do you know the mean things people mean to do are really mean?

Anonymous said...

Nice people say mean things too. That doesn't negate their nice-ness. That just makes them human.

Anonymous said...

You're all just a bunch of meanies!!!
hmmph!

Anonymous said...

#57 Hahaha I was being sarcastic!

Anonymous said...

Think about movie or book reviews: they're not always "nice," but they do tell you honestly what the reviewer thinks. And I want to read what people honestly think.

But this is a smack blog, so I take everything that's written here with a grain of salt. And if you're a designer and you can't handle being mentioned here, then don't read it. (No, I'm not trying to be MEAN, when I say that. I'm trying to spare your feelings.)

Anonymous said...

#60 as was I....

Anonymous said...

(Anna Aspenes style or whatever is newest)
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Not new, she's been doing the same thing for four or more years.

Anonymous said...

The same supplies in paper would cost more like $50 for the same thing. It amazes me how people think digi is so expensive.
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It is. That's why we do digi and not paper. I do wish people would stop comparing the two, they aren't the same thing.

Anonymous said...



#40 Don't be snotty. We're not all in the business. I would like to know more.

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I'm not in the business but I even knew that. It's just logical.

Anonymous said...

#24, there's something we agree on that I wouldn't like SO. Right, I don't. Bunch of stuck-up bitches. You probably fit right in.
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I can't get past an adult saying stuck up, it sounds so high school.

Anonymous said...

Nice people can smack without being mean.
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If you are smacking, you are no longer nice, doesn't matter how you do it. Don't kid yourself.

Anonymous said...

Sigh, I'm late to the party, as always. Sorry about that folks.

Anonymous said...

#61, we all know there is a difference between a movie/book review (your example) and much of what is written here. Most movie or book reviews have a name attached to them, so while the reviewer will give their honest opinion, they are not usually going to be cruel about it. They generally have a professional reputation to consider, and won't go "too far" with their review. They usually confine their comment to the actual work itself and rarely make it personal about how much they hate an actor/director/writer for all their various personal flaws or shortcomings.

Here, however, reviews take on an entirely personal nature. Whether a designer is fat or ugly, or bitchy or "high school" or, God forbid, her kids aren't cute (that was the LOWEST of the low a few weeks back)... all of that has very little, if anything, to do with her work as a designer. I personally feel that it is acceptable to communicate that you've had quality or service problems with a designer in the past. Maybe you think she charges too much for her work, or her kits are too small, or she uses too much CU, etc. Maybe you don't like her style or her color choices. That is all valid critique about someone's work and I think most designers could take that on the chin and move on.

When things get personal, though, it's not as easy to let it slide. You might not want to admit it, but at the end of the day, most humans just want to feel accepted for who they are. To have someone here, writing mean and nasty things about someone's personal appearance or personality is hurtful. It doesn't matter that it's anonymous. It sucks just knowing that someone out there in the world dislikes you enough that they would take time out of their day to write something really mean about you here on this blog. I know I can't be the only person who feels that way.

Anonymous said...

I wish Simon would come back and do some more reviews.

Anonymous said...

69: I'm 61, and ITA with you about the personal attacks being hurtful (and completely unnecessary). I wasn't talking about the personal stuff: I think that is completely wrong no matter where it's said. I'm sorry if you or others thought that I was talking about the personal stuff and how that's OK--because I wasn't and it's not. I meant that I like the info on designers/kits/stores because people are anonymous and so they don't feel the need to blow fluff up a designers butt or otherwise make their posts full of (untrue) niceties just to please the store. I've heard of people being banned from stores because the owner didn't like what the customer had written about the store. That's not cool.

But since this blog is anon, you also get the designers themselves, or their CT, posting here about how great a kit is or a sale is or whatever.

Anonymous said...

Well said #69 - I completely agree.

Anonymous said...

I think most of us would agree with you, 69.

Anonymous said...

#70 - it's not that hard to do your own reviews.

Anonymous said...

Let the sucking up begin at TLP for their guest Polly call. Probably the same old CTs will get in.

Anonymous said...

#75 - I saw a lot of the usual people, too - including a Honey Bee. I thought SO had strict rules about their CT not joining other store teams. Did that change? I've not wanted to try for the Guestee thing at SO because I don't want to give up my other store team.

Anonymous said...

Usual people stalking the Guest Polly call! Not many new people will join in because all the usual suspects will trample them.

I know SO has the sort of exclusivity thing for their Honey Bees... but I don't think they wouldn't let them guest for a month at another store. I don't know about that Guestee thing... but since it is a Guest spot, it shouldn't matter where else you CT for. I'd say if you want to try.. try and good luck. I haven't seen any ads for it... maybe I'll take my own advice and try too. Gotta go find it. Do they post it on FB or just in their forums?

Anonymous said...

#75- It's the people who have already guested that are applying who will most likely get in again. The guest call happens twice a year, it doesn't happen that often.

#76- I think you can't be a designer and be on another store's CT team.

Anonymous said...

#69, thank you for taking time to write that post. I'm the one who made the smack is ok, being mean is not. You, with waaaaayyyy more skill, articulated what I was trying to say.

Anonymous said...

Whoa, how long has the whole of A5D been 50% off?

Createwings going to SO... hope Red Ivy goes there too!

(no, I'm not a designer or CT at SO)

Anonymous said...

I know someone who was forced to choose between SO and a guest CT spot, so unless the rules have changed, that honey bee is breaking the rules.

I'm not sure how the whole Guestee thing works, but I wouldn't bother if you're already somewhere you love and enjoy.

Anonymous said...

SO doesn't allow their CT to do guest CT spots, but their designers can do guest designer spots? That makes no sense at all, but then again, it's Kami, so I'm not surprised in the least.

Anonymous said...

Another one bites the dust...

After 5 Designs is closing.

Via their FB page.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know what happened?

Anonymous said...

Amy was done. Moving on.

Anonymous said...

#80 Starting today,a few hours ago it became official.

Anonymous said...

After Five update:Closing on November 4th 50% Retiring sale on remaining designs.
Sugary Fancy:Moving to Scrap Orchard October 29th
Thaty Borges: Moving to Scrap Orchard October 29th
Boutique Cute Dolls:Announcement October 27
K Studio:Announcement soon
Createwings Designs moving to Scrap Orchard

Dunia Designs
emeto designs
et designs
HGD by Laurie Ann
Jofia Designs-RETIRED
Lily Designs
NewlifeDreamsDesigns
Palvinka Designs
Red Ivy Design

Anonymous said...

I can't even get After 5 to load.

Anonymous said...

SO doesn't allow their CT to do guest CT spots, but their designers can do guest designer spots? That makes no sense at all, but then again, it's Kami, so I'm not surprised in the least.
Oct 27, 2012 6:22:00 AM

That's exactly what I thought, too. I did ask someone I know over there and it's true. CTs can't do guest spots or join other store teams, but designers can do guest spots.

Makes no sense to me, either, but Kami is an idiot.

Looks like Carrie1977 will have to choose, too, if she gets a guest Polly spot. I'd take TLP over SO any day of the week.

Anonymous said...

Carrie is a bit of a CT floozy, no?

Anonymous said...

Apparently A5D is closing much sooner than is anticipated. I'm not sure I want to buy from such a non-responsive site. There's no guarantee that I'll be able to download my purchase. Customers are asking about it on FB and nobody is replying.

Anonymous said...

Finally, they commented.

Anonymous said...

Everybody hitting the shop for deals probably shut them down.

Anonymous said...

#90- No she isn't and I don't think she CT's for SO either.

Anonymous said...

#94 - It says she's a Honey Bee under her profile at SO. Guess you're wrong - on both counts.

Anonymous said...

#94, she's listed under staff at SO. Maybe she left recently? It looks like they need to update that page.

But I still don't think that makes her a CT floozy. Sometimes, it's time to try something new.

Anonymous said...

"Staff" follows the same rules as the CT.

Anonymous said...

I just read this on After Five's facebook page:

Anittra DeCambra Wednesday 24/10
I have a friend who is interested in taking over the store if the owner will kindly get back to one of us. We would love to save After Five Designs and continue to give a home for all designers there. Thank you!

Sounds like a good idea. Why close the shop when you can give it to somone else?

Anonymous said...

With a new owner it won't be the same. All the designers are already leaving.

Anonymous said...

Who the hell tries to save a sinking ship? I wouldn't trust a store owner with that type of business sense - or lack of.

Anonymous said...

It's probably Charly wanting to take over.

Anonymous said...

LOL #101

Anonymous said...

Aww damn, do we have to go there again? haven't we exhausted the Charly debacle and moved on to something actually interesting?

Anonymous said...

#103, it was a joke and not meant to be a long drawn-out discussion.

Try laughing. It's good for you and gets easier the more you do it.

Anonymous said...

104 It was meant as one of those aww hell remarks, you know, one of those like a kid saying "are we there yet". It sure as hell wasn't meant literally are we rehashing it. You get a grip and laugh a little.

Anonymous said...

Pardon me. Your intent was lost within the presentation of poor grammar usage. Both times.

Anonymous said...

It's not my fault you can't read between the lines..who called the grammar police....AGAIN.

Anonymous said...

LMAO not everyone is proper and if anyone here expects proper, then you are a sad, sorry bunch.

Anonymous said...

We shouldn't have to read between the lines. That's the point of coherent speach.

Anonymous said...

where's Laurie Ann going?

Anonymous said...

The A5D blog is now considered a malicious site.

Anonymous said...

THIS should be considered a malicious site...

Anonymous said...

that's probably why the site is so bogged down.

Anonymous said...

The site is bogged down because scads of people are taking advantage of the great sale. I bet it's just a case of giant overload to the server.

Anonymous said...

#109--bite me. Is that coherent enough for you?

Anonymous said...

That is not possible through the internet, #115.

Anonymous said...

The site is bogged down because scads of people are taking advantage of the great sale. I bet it's just a case of giant overload to the server.

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Yes, that and hackers attacking taking up bandwidth that should be available to the shoppers. They have something going on with their blog.

Anonymous said...

all you b****es need to get off of A5D. I gotta shop and can't!

Anonymous said...

#116..unfortunately...

Anonymous said...

#118..LOL..I agree!

Anonymous said...

Don't bother, A5D hasn't got enough products in there left worth purchasing. I looked through their CU and PU and they have very little to choose from. It would have been better if they had the sale before their designers bailed. Everyone would have had a win win situation.

Anonymous said...



all you b****es need to get off of A5D. I gotta shop and can't!

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I haven't shopped there in years, maybe that's way it's closing

*joke for those who have sticks up their bum today*

Anonymous said...

I have $75 in my cart, #121. I'd say there's a few kits worth grabbing.

Anonymous said...

Trivia question: Why don't designers want their ct's to use templates? I'm neither so I have no idea and I've read it more than once.

Anonymous said...

I don't know of any designers that say that. I guess there might be some that do because some believe that using a template lacks creativity. And then there was the issue that if a CT uses a template, it is commercial usage. Although many template designers approve that type of use.

Anonymous said...

109: We shouldn't have to read between the lines. That's the point of coherent speach.
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Did you spell "speech" incorrectly on purpose? Or do you just expect perfection from everyone but yourself?

Anonymous said...

Scrap Orchard must be happy as a pig in shit that After Five is closing. Those designers might just save that sinking ship over there. Maybe.

Anonymous said...

SO isn't a sinking ship...It's always been very active.

Anonymous said...

#128 - No one thought A5D would close, either.

I agree that store closing is a good thing for a lot of sites, including SO. Thinning out the herd is usually for the best.

Anonymous said...

A5D forums haven't been active for months. Absolute opposite of what is happening at SO. A5D just isn't one of those sites that everyone loves to hate.

Anonymous said...

If you took away all the CT and designer activity at SO, you'd find a small handful of people active there, but keep drinking their kool-aid.

Anonymous said...

Their CT isn't much larger than most other site stores, A5D included. The designers at A5D generally have huge personal teams.

I see plenty of customers posting at SO.

You don't have to like them, but that doesn't mean they are/were going under.

Anonymous said...

No one thought A5D would close, either.
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Actually, a lot of people thought After 5 would close. Check this blog. People have been saying it for ages.

Anonymous said...

If you took away all the CT and designer activity at SO, you'd find a small handful of people active there, but keep drinking their kool-aid.
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It's still more than what was happening at After 5 and other store forums.

There are just some who love to hate on SO, like they love to hate on SSD.

Anonymous said...

The only reason A5D closed is because the owner left it some time ago to persue other interests. Any store would go under in those circumstances.

And I agree, SO isn't a sinking ship.

Anonymous said...

I love stirring up the SO hags. No comments of SO support on the earlier convo about their CT? Interesting...

Anonymous said...

SO's designers and CTMs and customers all post in the SO forums. People at SO seem to genuinely care about the site.. But A5D's forums? There are sub forums, including the "New Products" forum, where no new threads had been started in months. Maybe A5D's store owner went AWOL, but the designers kind of ditched the site, too.
And for all of you Re Kneipp haters out there...maybe he left A5D because he got wind it was closing. He's a smart cookie, that one lone male teen in a sea of post-pregnancy and menopausal hormonally challenged women.

Anonymous said...

A5D is down. Again. Surely couldn't have been 1500 guests really browsing the store before it went down? That's a lot of digi scrappers!

Anonymous said...

Thanks for that post, Re! ;)

Anonymous said...

I'm so sad A5 is closing but on the other hand I'm so happy for the amazing sale. The shots are at $1. Woohoo I'm filling up my cart and erasing stuff off my wishlist.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for that post, Re! ;)
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You really think he posted that? Doesn't even sound like him.

Anonymous said...

A5D used to go down a lot during sales. The site never could handle a lot of traffic. I'm sure it was a contributing factor to the store going under.

Anonymous said...

I love stirring up the SO hags. No comments of SO support on the earlier convo about their CT? Interesting...
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Maybe it's you that's getting stirred, but you just don't know it.

Anonymous said...

Amy had multiple offers. She just wanted to close.

Anonymous said...

What about their CT? That they have to be exclusive and designers can guest? Well, they do go into it knowing what is required and nobody is forcing them to CT.

Designers make money for the store. Guesting at other stores can bring in new customers. But there is no benefit to the store if a CT takes a guest spot.

Gennifer said...

I have someone on DHD's site CT that is also on SO's CT. Kami and I have joked about it, so it's definitely out in the open.

Anonymous said...

This isn't about SO specifically, but I've got to say: if a store's CT Call said that I couldn't CT at another store, I wouldn't even apply. I am not a layout whore and the store is not my pimp. They can't tell I can only work their street corner. (If I were a designer who wanted to CT for a different, "bigger," store, then that's different. You're more likely to, IDK how to say it without sounding dramatic...spy? Use insider information? But CTMs are usually just happy to make LOs and brag about the stores/designers they CT for.)
And by the way, I'm post 137. Thanks for the laugh, 139!

Anonymous said...

"Insider information"..yeah, that doesn't sound dramatic....

Anonymous said...

I think "insider information" is a perfect way to describe it. CTMs are often aware of planned events and promotions and could potentially tip off another store or snag ideas. But the same could be said for designers at multiple shops.

Anonymous said...

#146 - You've joked about what exactly? I'm not sure what's funny about having a CTM on your store team and SO's team.

I love how people get so worked up about stuff when it comes to SO and SSD. Just goes to show how many people from those sites read and post here. No one without a vested interest would really give two shits.

Anonymous said...

I love how people get so worked up about stuff when it comes to SO and SSD. Just goes to show how many people from those sites read and post here. No one without a vested interest would really give two shits.
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People get worked up about lots of things here. I guess that means they are all from those sites etc too.

You seem worked up about people getting worked up.

Anonymous said...

By your tone, I don't imagine you find much funny.

..and you obviously have an axe to grind with one or both stores or YOU wouldn't respond either...so get off your high horse and go look for a sense of humor to download.

Anonymous said...

I am not a layout whore and the store is not my pimp. They can't tell I can only work their street corner.
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Of all the word out there, you had to choose those, I wonder why. And I don't even know what the heck you are trying to say with your second sentence.

Anonymous said...

I'm #152 and my comment was directed to the irrepressible #150.

Anonymous said...

"I am not a layout whore and the store is not my pimp. They can't tell I can only work their street corner."


This is the same person who didn't want to be "dramatic".

Anonymous said...

#152 - to whom are you speaking?

Anonymous said...

Ignore request at #156, I missed the clarification.

Anonymous said...

not sure about CT-ing at another store, but a ton of the SO Honeybees are CT members for designers outside of SO. Many of them seem to have outside gigs with their own blogs and one even sells templates at another store.

I think their Bees and Appletini's do a good job on the challenges. It has been quieter over there the past couple months, but it was pretty active during their Iron Scrapper Challenge and they are gearing up for DSD next weekend. Thurs/Fri is kind of a CT dump for the new releases. I like to stick to the challenges. It seems more like regular scrappers sharing their pages. I like getting the plum points for the challenges to knock off a little money on the kits. The freebie templates are pretty good and you can score some nice coupons/gift certificates on some of the MIS challenges. Not a designer or CT or anything. It's a decent place.

Anonymous said...

#158 - That's how I started over at SO too, I really enjoyed (and still enjoy) the challenges. I got my first CT gigs on designer teams there and still consider it my scrapping 'home' despite trying out other digiscrap communities here and there. And agree, it's a decent place. :)

Anonymous said...

Despite being a smack blog, I hope everyone is safe during the Hurricane about to pummel the east coast usa.

Anonymous said...

Et Designs and New Life Dreams Designs are going to SBG from A5D.

Anonymous said...

After Five designers Update:
Jofia Designs-RETIRED
Sugary Fancy:Moving to Scrap Orchard October 29th
Thaty Borges: Moving to Scrap Orchard October 29th
K Studio:Moving to Scrap Orchard Novemeber 1st
emeto designs moving to Scrapbook Graphics
et designs is moving to Scrapbook Graphics
Createwings Designs is moving to Scrap Orchard
Red Ivy Design moving to Scrap Orchard November 1st

No News yet:
Boutique Cute Dolls:Announcement Next week
Palvinka Designs announcement soon

Dunia Designs
HGD by Laurie Ann: hasn't found store yet
Lily Designs
NewlifeDreamsDesigns maybe Digital Crea?

Wow 5 After Five designers moving to Scrap Orchard. Scrap Orchard has now become an even better shop.

Anonymous said...

After Five designers Update:
Jofia Designs-RETIRED
Sugary Fancy:Moving to Scrap Orchard October 29th
Thaty Borges: Moving to Scrap Orchard October 29th
K Studio:Moving to Scrap Orchard Novemeber 1st
emeto designs moving to Scrapbook Graphics
et designs is moving to Scrapbook Graphics
Createwings Designs is moving to Scrap Orchard
Red Ivy Design moving to Scrap Orchard November 1st
NewlifeDreamsDesigns moving to Scrapbook Graphics

No News yet:
Boutique Cute Dolls:Announcement Next week
Palvinka Designs announcement soon

Dunia Designs
HGD by Laurie Ann: hasn't found store yet
Lily Designs

Anonymous said...

Not even one designer moving to the Lily Pad. Interesting..

Anonymous said...

So many designers are moving this month that I completely lost track of who is selling where now. I have to update my wishlist folders that I keep by store and move around all the designers and the kits I want to buy so I can keep track on DSD.

Anonymous said...

Seems to be a split between SO and SBG for now anyways.

Anonymous said...

I'm hoping BCD will be at SO. But why the delay in the announcement?

Anonymous said...

So many designers are moving this month that I completely lost track of who is selling where now. I have to update my wishlist folders that I keep by store and move around all the designers and the kits I want to buy so I can keep track on DSD

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A major store is closing. Otherwise the digi-shuffle is pretty normal around DSD.

Anonymous said...

BCD is going to MSCRAPS.

Anonymous said...

They started a thread at DST where you can note new shops or moving designers, if you know of someone moving like the A5D designers, post it there too. http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?t=310701
SOME designers don't seem to understand the concept, though - if you didn't change shops, don't post there for heaven's sake.

Anonymous said...

#170 LOL!!! I thought the same thing.

Anonymous said...

#164 Interesting how? No one could know what stores they applied to and got rejected at. TLP, Oscraps and SSD are three stores I can think of that just added designers recently so they'd probably say no to anyone who applied. Especially so close to DSD.

#166 I agree that they'll probably split between SO & SBG. A5D had a mix of fantasy and traditional so the fantasy seem to be moving toward SBG, the traditional to SO. Then the ones who never design that much anyway will probably just retire because no big store will want to take on a designer who never designs.

Anonymous said...

With some stores closing and designers needing to find new homes is the industry moving toward bigger superstores instead of smaller boutique shoppes? How big are some of these stores going to get? Looking at some of the big name stores, they have all grown recently and are all a lot bigger than they used to be. I don't know if I'd be happy to sell at a store with 30 or 40 other designers.

Anonymous said...

You wouldn't be happy to sell at a large store that was drawing lots of customers and ,therefore, sales? Yeah, right.

Anonymous said...

Why would you not want to sell at a store just because it's large? Afraid of the competition or is it maybe sour grapes that you'd never have a chance to do so?

Anonymous said...

I like it better as a customer. It makes it easier to earn rewards (either from purchases or from challenges) if all my favorite designers are in the same place. I prefer to be loyal to one store.

Anonymous said...

Sad that all those designers from A5D are going to the only 2 stores I refuse to shop at - SBG and SO..their loss I guess! It's OK, there are plenty of other stores I can shop at.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, I doubt anyone will starve because of your refusal to shop those two places.
It's real mature and kind to make the designer lose your business because you have a hardon for the store...guess you're showin' them, huh?

Anonymous said...

It's real mature and kind to make the designer lose your business because you have a hardon for the store.
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But speaking about having a hard on for a store is mature? Okay then. You do know that hard on means passion, right? Doesn't that mean they have a passion for the store.

Anonymous said...

You're an idiot...and I mean that passionately. Don't try to be witty and intelligent when you obviously are not qualified.

Anonymous said...

Are Scrapbookgraphics and/or SSD considered a step up fom SO ? They are all large stores..o why would a designer move around within the three? I am asking because I'm not on a ct nor do I design, so I have no idea and have always wondered why one would go to all the trouble of switching over if they are basically the same..or..maybe they're not??

Anonymous said...

I personally consider all three of them in direct competition when it comes to the kits I want to buy. Except I don't scrap fantasy, so there aren't as many designers at SBG that I'll purchase from. So some of it has to do with which style your prefer to scrap too.

Anonymous said...

You're an idiot...and I mean that passionately. Don't try to be witty and intelligent when you obviously are not qualified.
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It's obvious you don't have the intellect nor intelligence to understand much of anything.

Anonymous said...

Big stores take on inactive designers all the time - which is why they have to have so many designers. Why stores keep inactive designers, I have no idea, but they do.

I wont shop at SO, either, but have no problem with SBG except for Flergs. With so many stores and products to choose from, why would anyone shop at a store they don't like? Even if it's personal or sour grapes or whatever it is for someone, why give your money to an asshole if you can help it?

Anonymous said...

177- 178 I also have some stores where I will not shop, whether or not I like the designer. There may be one or two designers out there whose products are so original I would buy from them regardless of where they sell, but that is the exception not the rule. Most of the time I just forget about the designer unless she surfaces at a store I like. There are enough great designers I don't need to patronize places that irritate me. A5D was one of the stores where I would not shop.

Anonymous said...

#185 - Hey, whatever works for you...I've always shopped by designer, not store so maybe that's the difference. My priority is getting my photos scrapped as attractively as I can. There are about a dozen designers I love and I don't give a damn where any of them sell their work. I also don't care if he or she is a jerk (unless they mistreat me, a child or an animal!) really...I want their designs for my use, not to be buddies with them. Although,I must say "my" designers that I have messaged have all been very sweet and gracious...not to mention very talented!

Anonymous said...

"you don't have the intellect nor intelligence"

Intellect and intelligence mean the same thing. It would have sounded better had you just used one or the other. When you're redundant, it's as if you don't have much (worthwhile) to say...just fyi.

Anonymous said...

All this talk about stores and designers got me thinking: How many stores actually get your dollars? I don't care about challenges and how much you save with points or whatever. And I'm not talking about freebies you get at the store or the forum. I want to know where you shop regardless of incentives. (I don't do challenges--an hour to make a LO that fits the challenge's requirements is not worth the 50 cents in store credit it earns me. But that's just me.) I've shopped regularly at 2 (SO and SM), infrequently at 1 (SBG), and just once at another (A5D).
If SO and SBG pick up some designers, as is the case apparently, then I'll be happy: why not have more designers to choose from? I'm more likely to spend more money at a store if there are lots of talented designers selling there, even if I initially started browsing the store of only one designer.

Anonymous said...

you're both morons.

Anonymous said...

I've spent my money at lots of stores.
My top 5 would be:
After Five
The Lilypad
Scrap Orchard
Scrap Matters
Sweet Shoppe

I also don't do challenges. I just wait for great sales.

Anonymous said...

I spend the most money at SO and SSD. SO has been getting most of it lately. I rarely (pretty much never unless there is something that fits the need) shop at TLP, SBG, and SM.

Anonymous said...

SO, After 5, SBG (love Rosey Posey) were my big three.

Anonymous said...

187: Intellect and intelligence mean the same thing. It would have sounded better had you just used one or the other. When you're redundant, it's as if you don't have much (worthwhile) to say...just fyi.
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No, they're not the same. You can be intellectual (large capacity for fact) but have no freaking clue how to use that knowledge. And you can be intelligent (able to process what you know and then apply it) but have never had any type of higher learning. And no, I'm not the person you quoted, 187.

Anonymous said...

you're both morons.

Smartest post of the day.

Anonymous said...

#193, you're a moron as well.

Anonymous said...

I used to buy a lot of Miki Ferkel's kits until I discovered she reused A LOT of elements. Since I'm not a designer and just a casual scrapper, it took me awhile to figure this out.

Anonymous said...

Tell us something new.

Anonymous said...

Well, like I said, I don't look at my stuff that often so I thought I'd just pass the info on. Even I can recolor stuff for goodness sakes!

Anonymous said...

Sorry, I didn't mean to be rude. I've just heard and seen that she reuses elements a lot and always has. It's kinda old news to me but maybe not to others.

Anonymous said...

Who else frequently reuses elements?

Anonymous said...

Who frequently uses CU stuff over and over?

Anonymous said...

I miss Shabby Pickle a lot.

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