Bit slow off the mark this month. I just downloaded a couple of contributions for the Digi Scrap Parade Blog Train. Some looked fab and others looked not so fab. Which ones did you like ?
Not the op, but I think she's saying Gina's kit lacks any real unique elements or much variety at all, it's just buttons, ribbons, flowers, and some papers in the same few colors. Gina's creativity has been really lacking the last year or two, I think she's just riding on her past success and putting more of her time and energy into her photography business.
I also think most of the kits this month lack creativity, with the exception of fayette's. I think the theme is original and there are some cute unique elements and word art. Wimpy chompers and Meghan Mullens kits are also lacking in the originality department, just looks like lots and lots of flowers. (Also, WCs preview needs better shadowing). I think Meredith's has a nice variety, but it's not anything I would use. I also like the offering of a class from Debbie hodge, it's fun to mix it up. But then again I like classes, I know they're not everyone's cup of tea.
Has Gina ever designed a kit that had a THEME to it? You know, something with more than flowers, buttons, and ribbons--flowers/ribbons that she practically reuses/recolors in every kit.
I liked Meredith's kit, but I don't think I'd ever buy it in the store. I don't live somewhere that has apples. Same thing with Meghan's kit: it's pretty but I wouldn't buy it in the store. There's nothing amazing in it that shouts "BUY ME! SCRAP WITH ME! LOOOOVE ME!"
I'm a big list-maker, but IDK if I'd SCRAP about it. And I don't need a "list" kit in order to include a list in my LO. (Oops, that's Fayette's kit.)
OMG the MSA kit is horrendous!! I have been SO disappointed with that every kit so far. Even some of my fave designers put up sub-par kits. Grrr. I want so desperately to go in there and just say "ewe this is fugly" but I don't think they'd appreciate that. Thus - a vent here and now I'm done.
189, I haven't bought a kit from Micheline in forever so take this for what it's worth - because she may have gotten better - but a couple of years ago, I got burned badly by buying from her. It was horrendous quality. Blurry, pixelated elements. One or two things saved at web resolution even. Awful. I vowed never to buy from her again because I couldn't print any of the pages I made with those kits, and for me there's no point if I can't put pages into our family album. I haven't seen one of her kits up close since, and I don't care to. p.s. I would show you screenshots but I've since trashed those kits and can't any longer, sorry
I'm 7 here again, b/c I also meant to say that one time shortly after my bad experience with her kits, someone brought her up here on the smack blog (the old blog anyway) and I mentioned my experience - and more than one person responded that they weren't surprised b/c she is known for bad quality. I hadn't ever heard that until that point or I wouldn't have bought - but they talked about it as though I should have known better. So I'd say I'm not the only one who thinks her quality is bad.
#8 thanks for the heads up. Im trying to find a freebie somewhere from her so that I can check the quality. Anyone got any ideas, tried FB but only had b/w journal cards. Pity she didn't do the DSA blog train.
Not the op, but I think she's saying Gina's kit lacks any real unique elements or much variety at all, it's just buttons, ribbons, flowers, and some papers in the same few colors. Gina's creativity has been really lacking the last year or two, I think she's just riding on her past success and putting more of her time and energy into her photography business. -----
Thanks and I think her creativity has been lacking for about four years.
I bought some CU from her and ended up having to get a refund on two of the packs because they were so blurry and unusable. I would never buy something from her CU or PU again.
I was just perusing TLP when I saw Project Mouse and remembered the saga that played out here. Interestingly enough, not a one of the character silhouette cards, except for the freebie three circle Mikey paint chip ones, is now available. It seems that Disney do care after all.
Just saw this on Gina Miller's fb page: I don't know what bug bit me this weekend but in the past 24 hours, I've created a paper pack & matching washi tape set, 3 sticker packs, a full school-themed kit, began a Fall-themed kit so I'll have something to release the first day of school & re-packaged a beach kit for this week's SOSN. Go me! ツ Can't wait to share it all and do some giveaways in the coming weeks! --- Notice how she mentions the THEMED kits?! I know what "bit" you: the comments on this blog. I can't wait for the coming weeks cuz I want to see how themed they actually are. Gina, a brown flower isn't a "fall themed" element, mmm-kay?
Britt removed them from her own site/blog. My guess is Steph from TDD made her or she might blacklist her too. Maybe their new podcast host thought it was an infringement - she did it around the beginning of May judging by the comments on the posts.
Do you think Ya Yeah Designs will stay at TLP? I hate buying a lot of kits and then see the guests go. As I do only pages for TLP challenges (no CT, no other digi-community, only TLP) , I guess I should buy only residents-kits. What do you buy? guests or residents only or just don't care?
I'm a CTM for a few designers. One of the designers moved to a different store about 6 months ago. When the owner of the store she was leaving was told about the upcoming move, she was a real bitch to the designer. She even deleted all the layouts in the gallery from that designer after she left. I have layouts in that gallery from a designer that left about 2 years ago, so that was not a normal departure. The problem is, I have another designer that has her store at that site. I hate the thought of visiting that site now.
I buy from guests if I like their stuff. Their products will work for challenges, as long as they are still guesting, right? Also, you can throw in 25% off site products for TLP challenges.
I have wondered myself if Ya Yeah will stay at TLP. TLP seems to be getting so large, with so many designers. Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
25, I get so annoyed when store owners make it tough on designers who leave a store. But I also hate when stores leave REALLY old LOs in the gallery. They embarrass me (c'mon, a 3yo LO is not likely to make anyone who now considers herself "better at DSing" proud) and they take up bandwidth, which costs the store owner money.
IDK if you think telling us will make it easy to guess who you CT for, but what store is this? I'd rather not shop somewhere that the owner is catty like that. (Of course, IDK what the designer did--maybe she broke something in the contract, which she wouldn't tell you, the CT, about. Just playing Devil's Advocate here, I guess.)
27. I'm trying to figure out what to do about the other designer that I ct for that is still there. I've had a hard time posting in that gallery because of how I feel about the owner now. IDK what the designer did if anything (other than give notice and leave). I do know that she's left a different store in the past but remains friends with that owner. I do know she is more than generous with her CTM. She is always friendly in the forums, and other designers speak well of her.
29, IDK what to tell you. I guess it breaks down to two things. You'll have to decide which matters more: CTing for the other designer or being annoyed at the store owner for how she treated the designer who left.
30-yes, that is what I'm thinking. I don't want to do anything to hurt the sales of the other designer, but I am annoyed to say the least. I won't go looking for any other designers CT positions there that is for sure!
32-It's NOT tlp, but I can't say which one it is as it might hurt my other designer still there. It's one that has been talked about here in the past though.
#33, not getting the promised store points; people winning who uploaded a day or two late; having the rules changed half way through after I've uploaded, stuff like that.
34, dude, every store gets talked about here. ;) And it shouldn't hurt the designer who's still there unless she's the ONLY designer there. In fact, most stores mentioned here get people looking at them and can lead to sales. (I guess that's the "no press is bad press" mantra.)
I can bet it's PBP that she's talking about because not only is the designer gallery gone ( which is normal ) but layouts were deleted from users which is just unprofessional. I've never seen that happen
It's normal to delete designer galleries when a designer leaves a shop, isn't it? It would be strange for a site to keep former designer's galleries active. I'm a designer at PBP and when designers have left PBP in the past, the owner told the CT so that they could make sure their layouts were in other categories and wouldn't disappear when the designer's gallery was removed. I don't think owners have that much spare time to go through and delete layouts, and don't think the PBP owner would do that. She's easy to work with and avoids drama!
My layouts have been deleted or moved from more than one designer's gallery when I left SO, so it's not uncommon at all. In fact, it happened at SSD too. I doubt the gallery is deleted, probably just deactivated. Layouts are more than likely still there if anyone wants them.
I'm not the op, but I've been involved at about 7 or 8 different stores as a store CT and when the designers leave, the owners have just changed the category to "members gallery" instead of the designers gallery. They have not deleted the whole gallery of any particular designer.
Obvious question: Once a designer leaves a shop, why in the world would anyone still need or want their gallery around? For most shops, that would be hundreds of galleries and excess server fees, and for what? Doesn't it stand to reason that customers would want to view a designer's current gallery? As long as CT's are given the opportunity to move their layouts, I don't see what the big bitch is.
What big bitch? Nobody is disputing that when a designer leaves, their gallery can go, however, a user's gallery shouldn't be deleted just because they used that designer's products.
I don't think deleting the designers gallery was ever even the topic. That is not unusual when a designer leaves. Deleting layouts that had the designers product being used in them was the issue. If I had lo's that were in my gallery and came back to them being deleted just because I used designer abc's product and she left I would be pissed as a customer.
#49 ITA It's that the members' galleries were also stripped of the Designer's product. I have had plenty of designers move from store to store and never once have my pages by said designers been stripped from my own personal gallery. Sounds a bit spiteful to me. Just sayin...
I'm pretty sure it was at GP because I CT for a designer that left there about six months ago and we lost some of our layouts after she left. A friend also lost some from a designer at SO some time in the last several months but that could have been over the gallery changes.
I had all my layouts from my member gallery deleted at PBP with no notice from the store. Some of the layouts had been for challenges and had used other templates too. At another store, when the designer left and I had layouts in the designer's gallery, an admin moved them to my personal gallery.
When Dani Mogstad left SSD, every layout that I had in my gallery using Dani's products disappeared almost immediately. It wasn't just that Robin disabled Dani's designer gallery but left the actual layouts alone. I had originally uploaded layouts to both the main member's gallery (so they'd be in my own gallery), and to Dani's designer gallery. When she left, my layouts all disappeared. It made me sad too because I like to go back through and look at my layouts sometimes.
So yes, a store owner WILL be a bitch like that. Especially Robin.
I think it is more likely that an owner will remove all layouts using a designer's products when she leaves if that store's gallery is closed. SSD requires that you use their products in any layouts posted in their gallery. So if a designer leaves, your layout no longer uses products from their shop.
It would be nice if they would give you notice first, though, so you could have time to move your layout somewhere else like DST or MSA or Two Peas or TDC that has an open gallery.
#52 - Can I ask when your layouts were deleted at PBP? I have deleted galleries when designers left PBP, but when you do a search in our gallery on former designers, the layouts are still there. If the layouts weren't added to the members gallery as well as the designer's gallery, then I could see how they may disappear (all uploads are automatically added to Members Gallery unless you change that when uploading). I've never gone into a user's gallery and deleted layouts. I wouldn't do that regardless of why a designer left our shop. So, I'd really like to look into this a bit more to see when and why your layouts were deleted.
47-I was sad when my layouts were deleted at a particular gallery because some of the layouts were lost in a hard disk drive failure. I was able to retrieve most of them from another gallery, but not all of them. It's just sad when the owner of a store acts that way, and yes, I sure will not be buying anything from that store in the future. My layouts were all put in the members gallery as well as the designers gallery. All of them are gone from that one designer. I had an extensive gallery at this store--dating back to 2009. There have been a lot of designers come and go at that store in that time, and this was the first time any of my layouts were deleted when a designer left, even though I have used many of their products.
It's not the store's responsibility to hang onto your layouts ever. It amazes me that anyone would lose them because an owner deleted them. Give me a break. If you don't want to lose them, save them on your computer and BACK.THE.COMPUTER.UP.
Besides, if you were any kind of a CT, you'd have posted them at other sites too because that's your job. If you didn't, then the designer who's team you are still on should dump you anyway because you are already affecting her business in a negative way. Or are you just one of those CT's who's in it for the free kits?
It's not a shop owner's responsibility to pay hosting fees on layouts that are no longer promoting a designer in their shop just because you are too lame to save a copy of the layout for yourself. If it were that important to you, you should have.
And who cares if some of them were for challenges? You would have already received your bonus for that the month after you did it. So grow up!
What I don't understand is why people use an online gallery as a "LO back up." They're 72dpi and usually 600x600 or 800x800 pixels. That's not exactly print quality.
I'm with 58: if you care about your digital work, back it up. And then back it up again. And maybe get an online back up service to be triple-sure it's backed up.
53 - then please explain to me why my Dani layouts are still there. Maybe something else happened in your instance, because mine are still there. Not disbelieving you, just saying maybe it was something other than Robin being a bitch.
I wish stores would delete more old layouts. SSD and PBP and all those other stores are not backups or places to store your ugly ass pages from 4 years ago because you like to browse them occasionally. What a bunch of entitled twits some of you people are.
#61 - Not angry, just think it's ridiculous when people blame others for their own stupidity or lack of follow-through in saving their own layouts. Perhaps they should start a website and pay their own hosting fees so they grasp the concept of hosting stuff that no longer serves a purpose for the site. Move on to the designer's new gallery and don't assume it was an owners fault. I have my own personal shop and I don't even keep old stuff on it.
Not angry, just think it's ridiculous when people blame others for their own stupidity or lack of follow-through in saving their own layouts. ---------
I agree with this, but you seem angry when you are talking about just being in it for free kits and telling them grow up.
#64 - Perhaps they should start a website and pay their own hosting fees so they grasp the concept of hosting stuff that no longer serves a purpose for the site.
This reflects an attitude that I see all too often in this industry - that it's all about product and CTs. Memorykeeping and community are just afterthoughts.
I am pretty loyal to the couple of stores I shop. As a loyal customer, I would be upset to know that my inferior older layouts using retired products are viewed as no longer "serving a purpose" for the site. I wouldn't want to shop at a store with that type of leadership.
This reflects an attitude that I see all too often in this industry - that it's all about product and CTs. Memorykeeping and community are just afterthoughts. --------
This is true of any industry. It's there to make money.
What about the Fix that just came out? I have to say it looks much worse than last month. It has gone downhill and fast! Crystal's templates are the only thing worth having in it.
Totally agree. The kits by Crescent Moon and Angel Dolly (never heard of either) shouldn't even qualify as kits. Luv Ewe's isn't the worst ever, but not great either. It would help if it were previewed better. Those other 2 are beyond hope.
Agree with #69. The templates by Crystal look great. LuvEwe's doesn't look too bad but the other two are horrendous. Terrible previews. And isn't Charly Crescent Moon?
I do like the templates and Luv Ewe's kit, but the other two are awful. Very beginer's like work. Why are they picking people like that to be in the fix?
71 - I do see your point, and I would have no problem with a store that presented that in a positive way. For instance, if a store said "We want to keep our site efficient and part of our plan to accomplish this involves removing layouts more than two years old ..." Well, that is respectful to customers I think.
But the attitude presented was more along the lines of "Our paying customer's old layouts are ugly and aren't bringing in money for us." That seems disrespectful to me.
Perhaps the motivation in both cases is to simply keep costs down and keep the site up to date. But I still think attitude matters.
So if all the old layouts are such a drain on resources, why don't sites actually have a time limit on them? I personally have never seen a gallery that purges older layouts.
59-Sometimes people here don't know what they are talking about, or what the designer in question required of the ct. The layouts of mine that were deleted were less than a month old. I back up my layouts at the end of the month. I now back up more often. Also, the designer in question only wanted the CT to post at the one gallery until the kit was released at her other store. I know the layouts in the galleries are only 72 dpi--but I could have reproduced it better than I was able to do by memory. I don't expect store owners to be my backup. I don't care if they delete my layouts from 4 years ago, but you'd think they'd keep the ones that were posted in that month.
What so #81, you don't save your layouts on your hard drive? WTH? I always thought it was about the comments, not the actual layouts, I mean, why wouldn't you keep your layouts? Why would you ONLY have them on an online gallery, makes no sense at all!
Yes, the September DST blog train is downright fugly.
I know a couple of stores still do monthly blog trains (SNP, STS) so you might check those out. They do let anyone create stuff for the trains, so there can be a pretty wide range of quality but it's certainly better than the stuff I've seen so far for the DST train.
83-I used to save my layouts to two hard drives once a month. Now I do it more often. If you don't save to two, you don't back up. I don't use online storage areas. I don't even look at the comments, so no, it's not about the comments. I scrap for me with the designers kits. I don't scrap for comments. I have fun with the kits, and I love the teams. It's as easy as that. I use my photos--which are on three hard drives by the way. I don't back up kits. They are only on one hard drive.
84, you might want to focus on learning to spell "decent" before you worry about promoting yourself in a blog train. I'm almost not kidding, in fact. The impression you'll be giving to your customers if you type blog posts like that is SEVERELY unprofessional and just makes you look like a twit.
I think the point is, a store owner, or one of her assistants, decided to be a big ole bitch and go through and delete all the layouts that had product on them from the designer who left her store. She couldn't handle the departure of one of the designers professionally and part ways maturely. Instead she resorted to name calling and pettiness. Hopefully the few non-fantasy designers left at her store will move and I can shop from them. In the meantime, I will give he store no business at all.
The impression you'll be giving to your customers if you type blog posts like that is SEVERELY unprofessional and just makes you look like a twit. -----
Since you don't know who it is, what does it matter?
The impression you'll be giving to your customers if you type blog posts like that is SEVERELY unprofessional and just makes you look like a twit. - Actually, this post makes YOU look like a petty, uninformed asshole. Not everyone speaks English as a first language. The fact that they TRY is appreciated by lots of folks, I'm sure. It certainly is by me. I cannot imagine even attempting to do likewise in Spanish, Italian, French, Mandarin, etc.!
I think the point is, a store owner, or one of her assistants, decided to be a big ole bitch and go through and delete all the layouts that had product on them from the designer who left her store. She couldn't handle the departure of one of the designers professionally and part ways maturely. Instead she resorted to name calling and pettiness. Hopefully the few non-fantasy designers left at her store will move and I can shop from them. In the meantime, I will give he store no business at all. --- Is this Pickleberry Pop?
you might want to focus on learning to spell "decent" before you worry about promoting yourself in a blog train. I'm almost not kidding, in fact. The impression you'll be giving to your customers if you type blog posts like that is SEVERELY unprofessional and just makes you look like a twit. -------
I am not the OP but I agree that bad spelling and grammar looks unprofessional. It looks like you don't take your business seriously. If English isn't your first language - get someone to help you with it.
It's a smack blog, not a business site. Telling someone she looks unprofessional, when you don't even know who she is, just makes you look a little nit picky.
we talked about people scrappin' pet photos and baby photos..what about people scrappin' the same photo again and again? http://www.the-lilypad.com/gallery/data/500/aboutmeweb.jpg
we talked about people scrappin' pet photos and baby photos..what about people scrappin' the same photo again and again? http://www.the-lilypad.com/gallery/data/500/aboutmeweb.jpg -------
So what? I used to do that a lot for my on line gallery CT work.
we talked about people scrappin' pet photos and baby photos..what about people scrappin' the same photo again and again? http://www.the-lilypad.com/gallery/data/500/aboutmeweb.jpg ++++++++++
How about linking to the whole gallery next time if you are going to smack someone for using the same photo again and again.
we talked about people scrappin' pet photos and baby photos..what about people scrappin' the same photo again and again? ----- I've done this and I'm not even on a ct. I do different pages for different reasons and people. Some pics are so special to me that I used them over and over. What's it to you if people do that? Get a life.
Who are the nicest digi shop owners to work with....who are the worst? --- Wouldn't you rather make your own judgements in this area instead of depending upon others' experiences?
I've done this and I'm not even on a ct. I do different pages for different reasons and people. Some pics are so special to me that I used them over and over. What's it to you if people do that? Get a life. ---------
While I agree with you, telling someone on a smack blog to "get a life" is kind of ironic.
Who are the nicest digi shop owners to work with....who are the worst? --- Wouldn't you rather make your own judgements in this area instead of depending upon others' experiences? ---------------------
As someone who went from working for Royanna to working for Charley, NO!!
I should add that working for Charley was nothing like working for Royanna. Everything just blew up around Charley and resulted in the store closing quickly.
I use some of my photos over again. I find another kit I love, and know that a particular photo, or set of photos, will work well with it, so I'll use it again. No big problem. I'll usually change up the journaling to reflect a different memory of this person though. Since I'm a memory scrapper, and not an event scrapper, it works for me. I've even scrapped the same events again with another kit when I find a different kit I love. What I can't figure out is why that would bother someone else. It's my family, my memories, my events. If I want to scrap them again, who else should even care?
110-It's all a personal choice. One person may find one store owner great while another one not so much. Personally, I didn't care for working at PBP. At first, everything seemed just fine, but as time went by, I felt like I was being dictated to. Like I said, though, that is just a personal feeling.
I think the point is, a store owner, or one of her assistants, decided to be a big ole bitch and go through and delete all the layouts that had product on them from the designer who left her store. She couldn't handle the departure of one of the designers professionally and part ways maturely. Instead she resorted to name calling and pettiness. Hopefully the few non-fantasy designers left at her store will move and I can shop from them. In the meantime, I will give he store no business at all. --- Is this Pickleberry Pop?
-- YES!! I was OP not sure what why the other person thought it wasn't
#119 & 120 - No I was never contacted, but I have a good idea who the OP was. It's just as 120 said, they'd find it wasn't done out of malice. I do delete galleries when designers leave, whether they leave with good feelings or not (and the list of those who didn't leave on good terms is very short :). But, I don't delete individual layouts. Anyway, the offer is still open to contact me. If layouts did disappear, I'd like to find out why.
The only designer I recall leaving there suddenly is Trixie Scraps, which would explain it. I'm sure that whatever happened was certainly everyone's fault but her own. --eyeroll--
Personally, I didn't care for working at PBP. At first, everything seemed just fine, but as time went by, I felt like I was being dictated to. -- Well, the store owner is in charge, right? Didn't you have a clear idea of expectations before you started there? It seems that maybe you are the one who is the problem since I've seen no designer mass exodus from there. Maybe you don't communicate very well, are hypersensitive and/or have problems with reading comprehension (there WAS a written con- tract, right?).
128 - I've never seen a store contract that states designers can't have opinions and suggestions and the store owner is the ultimate dictator only to be obeyed.
The store owner isn't "in charge". That would mean she's a designer's boss. Designers are independent and the store is merely selling goods on a designer's behalf to which the designer given a commission.
I'm pretty sure it's you who lacks reading comprehension.
Sadly, there are a few store owners who run their stores like dictatorships and too many designers who believe it's okay - and apparently at least one who has it in her contract that she's the store owner's bitch.
A reasonable store owner will find a balance between total chaos and dictatorship and maintain the store for the good of the ownership and the whole team. One cannot exist without the other. But, ultimately, the owner is not there to run a kidergarten or suck up to designers because they are too precious to do as they are required, follow the leadership or follow store requirements. Ultimately, it is the store owner that funds and maintains the store, not the designers.
Do you think any of the "top tier" stores got that way by letting designers run over the top of them because they think they are too good to follow basic guidelines, deadlines, and marketing goals? Highly doubtful.
Considering Trixie Scraps seems to be the only designer who has left suddenly, I'd give the benefit of the doubt to the store owner first. Trixie Scraps has a reputation for being a victim. I used to be on her CT but didn't enjoy her drama. That was a few years ago though.
Ultimately, it is the store owner that funds and maintains the store, not the designers. ------ Uh, the commission the store earns from the designer's sales are what fund and maintain the store. Without designers and their sales, the store is nothing.
Do you think any of the "top tier" stores got that way by letting designers run over the top of them because they think they are too good to follow basic guidelines, deadlines, and marketing goals? Highly doubtful.
------- Did someone say they thought they were? Maybe I missed a post somewhere, but I didn't see that mentioned.
Did someone say they thought they were? Maybe I missed a post somewhere, but I didn't see that mentioned.
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I didn't say they were. I was merely pointing out the fact that there's nothing wrong with strong owners who won't be run over. If you were to look at the shops that you, yourself, might consider to be top-tier, I doubt the owner is a wuss. If you were to go by past posts, one might consider SO, SSD, or SBG to be top-tier, and I've never seen anyone post about what pussies any of their owners are. In fact, just the opposite. So why would anyone expect any other owner to be passive or to be accused of being a dictator because they refuse to put up with people like Tracy?
I wouldn't want to be in a shop that had a wimpy owner. It wouldn't be successful. Many designers are known for pushing limits and I think any shop that is ultimately successful, would need to maintain a balance between supportive but organized.
You can be strong, not a wuss and not a dictator. It doesn't have to be so black and white. From what I've heard about SO, a store owner can clearly go too far in the controlling category. There has been a lot of turnover there for a "top tier" store IMO.
I don't think the OP was calling PBP owner a dictator because of Tracy. She spoke of her own experiences with the owner only.
I think you're reading a bit much into this discussion, 135.
Ultimately, it is the store owner that funds and maintains the store, not the designers. ------ Especially if she doesn't pay her designers regularly like Royanna
Wow you people are making a hill out of this talk. I have no idea who left PBP at a fast rate. But if they did it was because they were asked to do something in a timely manner and that didn't happen. Every single store I have ever worked has rules and if you fight each rule you are going to told to leave and that will usually happen at any shop. Some designers seem to this this is a hobby,it is business people. If you are designing as a hobby - that your hard earn money - design a website and get zen cart and go play in your own playground. Because I hate to tell you these sites are businesses and should be run like a business. Business have rules to keep things running like a good business should. SO always keep this in mind. If your not a team player and looking to make some money then dont join a site that you think is top tier to middle tier, it just wont work. AS for PBP I personally think it is a very well run shop. And the reason I say that seems the designers participate weekly, newsletters go out always on time. That doesn't show a set of unhappy designers, it show a well run business. "Oh lookie! Another "traditional" designer is closing shop at PBP home of the fugly fantasy crap. Shocker." Bitter much and jealous on the other hand. If this is indeed Tracy - you should be ashamed of yourself. And even if it isnt Tracy who ever this person is really had some balls to say something like this since you signing in Anonymously - so we can judge you work that apparently is superior in nature. You know that old say to each is own. I would never have the gall to say someones work was fugly - it might not be my cup of tea. So keep your opinions to yourself unless you can sign your name and get out from under the paper bag you have on your big head hiding like a big coward.
So keep your opinions to yourself unless you can sign your name and get out from under the paper bag you have on your big head hiding like a big coward. ---------------
Wise words indeed, darlin', now, how 'bout your follow your own advice, sugar?
Worst store owner? One who can't be bothered to reply to emails, takes her sweet time in paying you, practically encourages trademark/copyright violation, and doesn't make sure all designers are fulfilling their contract obligations. Glad I left.
I would never have the gall to say someones work was fugly -- However, you WOULD have the gall to post a rambling, poorly written diatribe admonishing someone to not post smack on a smack blog.
I would never have the gall to say someones work was fugly -- However, you WOULD have the gall to post a rambling, poorly written diatribe admonishing someone to not post smack on a smack blog.
^^this
And many people call people's work ugly. The fantasy stuff, in my opinion, is ridiculous. Let's take a lovely picture and cute it out and stick in a garden. Some may call it art, but I think it looks dumb. Some people may call their hook loomed sampler of the cat on a pillow art, but I think it's ugly too. It looks as though PBP wants to be fantasy pages R us. If they have the business to support the company good for them. If you are a designer doing a more traditional scrapbooking thing, find a store with customers who actually use your products.
^^^^ Someone definitely is. I like having some variety to choose from. I don't love every designer every week, but I find products I like from several of them quite often. I think they've come along quite nicely the last year or so, especially since they've picked up at least a few more traditional style designers. I've had great customer service from them too.
Some may think that a shop that sticks to the same style is the way to go, but I don't personally like it. I can go to SSD and everything there looks pretty much alike. It's the same stuff over and over. I used to buy a ton of stuff there but not anymore. There's no variety.
SO used to have a pretty decent selection of designers but a few of my favorites have retired and they haven't been able to find new ones that I like as well. Their selection has gotten kind of slim too.
The fantasy stuff, in my opinion, is ridiculous. Let's take a lovely picture and cute it out and stick in a garden. Some may call it art, but I think it looks dumb. Some people may call their hook loomed sampler of the cat on a pillow art, but I think it's ugly too. ----------
Those who cannot do something, tend to put it down.
I can do fantasy pages but I still don't like them. I also don't like random, extracted 'realistic' items in a kit ... like it's 'realistic' for me to put an apple and a donkey and an antique chair on some photos, add some hay and a ribbon, tuck a small dollar store doll in behind it all, and call it art.
Not liking them is not the same as putting them down and being an asshat about them. I don't mind realistic elements but they need to make sense with the kit.
Since P&Co. was blacklisted from TDF because Gennifer owned this blog at one time, and SO will not participate in anything that she or P&Co is involved in - SSD feeling mostly the same - I wonder. Fayette is posting here on behalf on PBP. Will PBP be banned from TDF also for Fayette's involvement here?
This. And not everyone who reads here is here to enjoy the smacking. Sometimes it's to be aware of what's going on in digiland, even if not all of it is valid. Some of it is.
Before someone accuses me of being on Marta's CT, I am! I'm on her CT because I love her work. It's unique, it's original, it's fun to play with. It's not for scrapbooking (in my eyes, except ocassionally) but it is for play.
Some of are not traditional scrappers. Some of us use this hobby for our own creativity. For fun. Not for documentation.
I can go to SSD and everything there looks pretty much alike. It's the same stuff over and over. I used to buy a ton of stuff there but not anymore. There's no variety. ------ I agree with this. EVERYTHING (except for Ru's stuff which I usually don't really like) DOES look the same. Go look at the Sneak Peeks for this week. All the same old stuff that I already have. I don't care for 90% of SO's stuff anymore and P@Co is WAY too expensive. TLP doesn't hold my interest AT ALL anymore either. Pickleberry Pop, here I come to look, however, I already know I do NOT care for JumpStart Designs. I just may be S.O.L!
Is there any honest to goodness use for something like this? I find that I am a loss for words. -- Yet, you miraculously found some. I'm so glad you did. Whatever would we have done without your enlightening post?
Pickleberry Pop, here I come to look, however, I already know I do NOT care for JumpStart Designs. I just may be S.O.L!
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I do. She also has the best customer service of any designer I've had to deal with. I also like Fayettes Designs and Joeys designs, although Joeys doesn't release new stuff very often.
157, that would be a great kit to scrap a MD grad, or to use for my child's latest hospital stay. No, I wouldn't put the anatomy stuff on there, but I would put the docs/nurses.
Actually, I would use the lungs on a LO about how freaking loud my kids are. They've each got a set of lungs.
Such an f'ing bunch of hypocrites here! I've been reading through and it seems that you each must know who the other is and run in the same circles and teams! I base this on the observation that several of you like to latch on to the same topics and people and really screw them over verbally, but then someone else comes in with something to say or show that apparently isn't in your circle, and they get ridiculed! So I'm guessing that majority here are either spurned CT or rejected designers, or clearly just disgruntled biddies who all have nothing better to do than bitch about everything and everyone. That's why I read here, to be entertained and glean info on who I DON'T want in my shoppes or on my teams, and to gather clues about whom I might be removing next from my shoppe because they can't keep their mouth shut! You ladies are a goldmine for store owners, truly a goldmine, you have no idea just how transparent some of you are. Being around many of you on forums, your "writing" style and grievances give you away, and some of you are a real piece of work, nice to others faces and stab you in the back in the blink of an eye.
Such an f'ing bunch of hypocrites here etc.etc.etc. --- Bottom Line: You have no idea for sure who anybody is unless you have access to our information. If reading peoples' opinions on matters disturbs you so, why read AND participate?
On the other hand, if, like you also state, that this is "a gold mine for store owners" and you imply that you are one, why so hostile? From what YOU say, this is a wealth of info for ya. You should be THANKING the posters in that case, not berating them.
So I'm guessing that majority here are either spurned CT or rejected designers, or clearly just disgruntled biddies who all have nothing better to do than bitch about everything and everyone. -- Well, you guess wrong. Speaking of hypocritical, aren't you bitching about people bitching? Idiot.
Also, just because someone disagrees with YOU does not mean that person is miserable.
That's why I read here, to be entertained and glean info on who I DON'T want in my shoppes or on my teams, and to gather clues about whom I might be removing next from my shoppe because they can't keep their mouth shut! ___ Oh, I'm shakin' in my boots now! Damn! Please don't do THIS! I want sell in your anonymous store and/or be on one of your anonymous "teams." Please don't reject me because of who I am anonymously!
- whom I might be removing next from my shoppe because they can't keep their mouth shut- _________ You'd remove someone from your shop because of what you THOUGHT they said on an anonymous blog?
138-The op wasn't Tracy or her cronies. It was me, and I stand by the statement. For a bunch of people that seem to think they know who everybody is that posts on this blog, you assumed wrong.
Is there any honest to goodness use for something That's why I read here, to be entertained and glean info on who I DON'T want in my shoppes or on my teams, and to gather clues about whom I might be removing next from my shoppe because they can't keep their mouth shut! You ladies are a goldmine for store owners, truly a goldmine, you have no idea just how transparent some of you are. Being around many of you on forums, your "writing" style and grievances give you away, and some of you are a real piece of work, nice to others faces and stab you in the back in the blink of an eye. --------
I hope you do know who I am because I don't want to be on your team or sell in your shop, you are a hypocrite, a liar and an asshat.
So I'm guessing that majority here are either spurned CT or rejected designers, or clearly just disgruntled biddies who all have nothing better to do than bitch about everything and everyone.'
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Make up your mind! You either know who we are, or you don't. If we are so transparent, as you claim, why the need to guess? With all that bitching you are doing, I'm guessing you are either a spurned CT, rejected designer or a disgruntled biddy. Which is it? I'm going for biddy, seeing as you couldn't type out the world fucking.
Doesn't take much to stir you biddies up does it? Point made, you'll bitch about ANYTHING. For crying out loud, go cook, or clean or screw your spouse, get some of that aggression out instead of sitting on your asses all day bitching about shit you all know nothing about either. I'd like to see some of you actually do the things many of the designers you put down do! Funny how you are such experts. I personally think you each should look in your own yard, see what you can fix there instead of looking over others fences, because clearly you all have issues. It's one thing to discuss or trash bad product, bad store owners, poor service, etc, but honestly, you really go too far, I hope that what you have sown comes back to get you ten fold, karma is a bitch, and will bite you in the ass harder than you think, and I hope someone gets in your face in your real life and tells you what incredibly stupid bitches you all are for sitting on your asses bitching about internet bullshit, and for spending your old mens hard earned money on what you apparently think is trash. Go ahead, keep trashing people, ruin lives and businesses, what is it to you, it isn't food off your table, or bills unpaid because a few bad words screwed your sales now is it? Must be nice to sit there and make others feel as shitty as you obviously feel about yourself! Now go ahead, trash me, speculate who I am, where I own, or shop, or ct, give it your all because you are just dying to spew more vile words at anyone, and get up on your asses and act queen bitch to everyone.
Oh btw, FYI I cannot hold a job out of my home as I am physically disabled, I work online, I make good money, and I do design, in a top tier digital shop, as well as I design for a print company, so I know quality, and nothing digital can ever be as clear as print, and yes I read here often!
I personally think you each should look in your own yard, see what you can fix there instead of looking over others fences, because clearly you all have issues -------
instead of sitting on your asses all day bitching about shit you all know nothing about either. ------
Ironically, you've written more in two posts that most of us have written in a month. It would seem that while some of us spend about five minutes here, you are spending way too long here. You seem really aggressive as well.
speculate who I am, where I own, or shop, or ct, ==
I don't care to know who you are. You seem to be a bitter and angry person. You think you are so much better than everyone else here. Newsflash, you aren't, you are just the same.
Personally, whomever the OP is of any of the above posts, it really looks like ya'll have just as much anger and aggression as she does. Strange how her one point rings true, you do latch on to the next thing that comes up and start ripping. Maybe she is one of those you have thrashed so soundly? Or is it more along the lines of you can dish it out, but anyone else who does needs bitch slapped about it? It is a smack blog "dearies" (someone is a Rumpelstiltskin fan) not a turf war, so why such aggression in return if she didn't hit a sore spot?
Really 191? You mean *gasp* you aren't bitter and angry, as are the rest of the "ladies" here? WOW!!
Does anyone actually have a legit gripe about a bad product or does everyone sit in the same circle at story time and trade insults about the same old people?
Personally, whomever the OP is of any of the above posts, it really looks like ya'll have just as much anger and aggression as she does. Strange how her one point rings true, you do latch on to the next thing that comes up and start ripping. Maybe she is one of those you have thrashed so soundly? Or is it more along the lines of you can dish it out, but anyone else who does needs bitch slapped about it? It is a smack blog "dearies" (someone is a Rumpelstiltskin fan) not a turf war, so why such aggression in return if she didn't hit a sore spot? -------
Does anyone actually have a legit gripe about a bad product or does everyone sit in the same circle at story time and trade insults about the same old people? ------
This is not a product review blog. Why do people keep asking such stupid questions.
Well 185 it seems it didn't take much to stir you up either, did it? I have a feeling I know who you are and why you are so upset, but, I can only speculate, seeing as this IS an anonymous smack blog. You are angry because you are, or were, the subject of a smack here (again speculation on my part). If you are, or were, being smacked the best way to make sure you don't lose business is to change the thing that people are complaining about. You cannot please everyone, so it's either important enough to do something about, or you don't care, but, either way you know that it is pissing people off and knowledge is power. If it bothers you so terribly, maybe it's time for you to look away. Take some of your own advice and find something else to do, besides reading here. I get a lot of great information from this blog, like it or not, and I have been introduced to some awesome designers that I would have never heard about. I take this blog for what it is, you would do you nerves well by trying to do the same thing.
I can't think of anyone physically disabled who designs for a top shop and print company. Anyone else?
I'd like to never buy from this person who rants at people to get a life and not spend so much time putting people down while putting people down.
It's not the smack on this blog that ruins a designers business, it's how the designer handles the smack. Negative reviews are a fact of life in almost everything we do. Handle it with grace and you'll be fine. Handle it like the holier-than-thou designer in 185 and your business likely will suffer. Not because of this blog, but because you're a bitter bitch who likes to tell others what they should be doing with their time.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 400 of 588 Newer› Newest»Not the op, but I think she's saying Gina's kit lacks any real unique elements or much variety at all, it's just buttons, ribbons, flowers, and some papers in the same few colors. Gina's creativity has been really lacking the last year or two, I think she's just riding on her past success and putting more of her time and energy into her photography business.
I also think most of the kits this month lack creativity, with the exception of fayette's. I think the theme is original and there are some cute unique elements and word art. Wimpy chompers and Meghan Mullens kits are also lacking in the originality department, just looks like lots and lots of flowers. (Also, WCs preview needs better shadowing). I think Meredith's has a nice variety, but it's not anything I would use. I also like the offering of a class from Debbie hodge, it's fun to mix it up. But then again I like classes, I know they're not everyone's cup of tea.
Has Gina ever designed a kit that had a THEME to it? You know, something with more than flowers, buttons, and ribbons--flowers/ribbons that she practically reuses/recolors in every kit.
I liked Meredith's kit, but I don't think I'd ever buy it in the store. I don't live somewhere that has apples. Same thing with Meghan's kit: it's pretty but I wouldn't buy it in the store. There's nothing amazing in it that shouts "BUY ME! SCRAP WITH ME! LOOOOVE ME!"
I'm a big list-maker, but IDK if I'd SCRAP about it. And I don't need a "list" kit in order to include a list in my LO. (Oops, that's Fayette's kit.)
OMG the MSA kit is horrendous!! I have been SO disappointed with that every kit so far. Even some of my fave designers put up sub-par kits. Grrr. I want so desperately to go in there and just say "ewe this is fugly" but I don't think they'd appreciate that. Thus - a vent here and now I'm done.
Has Gina ever designed a kit that had a THEME to it
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Yep, Christmas ones and in the early days her kits had themes.
I like doodles but I would never use doodled people.
189, I haven't bought a kit from Micheline in forever so take this for what it's worth - because she may have gotten better - but a couple of years ago, I got burned badly by buying from her. It was horrendous quality. Blurry, pixelated elements. One or two things saved at web resolution even. Awful. I vowed never to buy from her again because I couldn't print any of the pages I made with those kits, and for me there's no point if I can't put pages into our family album. I haven't seen one of her kits up close since, and I don't care to. p.s. I would show you screenshots but I've since trashed those kits and can't any longer, sorry
I'm 7 here again, b/c I also meant to say that one time shortly after my bad experience with her kits, someone brought her up here on the smack blog (the old blog anyway) and I mentioned my experience - and more than one person responded that they weren't surprised b/c she is known for bad quality. I hadn't ever heard that until that point or I wouldn't have bought - but they talked about it as though I should have known better. So I'd say I'm not the only one who thinks her quality is bad.
#199 it does include the collabs and her commercial stuff as well that's why I was interested.
"You may pick up ANYTHING in my store (including collabs and commercial use tools" this from her store.
I had the same experience as #7 and I also trashed the kits.
#8 thanks for the heads up. Im trying to find a freebie somewhere from her so that I can check the quality. Anyone got any ideas, tried FB but only had b/w journal cards. Pity she didn't do the DSA blog train.
Not the op, but I think she's saying Gina's kit lacks any real unique elements or much variety at all, it's just buttons, ribbons, flowers, and some papers in the same few colors. Gina's creativity has been really lacking the last year or two, I think she's just riding on her past success and putting more of her time and energy into her photography business.
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Thanks and I think her creativity has been lacking for about four years.
I bought some CU from her and ended up having to get a refund on two of the packs because they were so blurry and unusable. I would never buy something from her CU or PU again.
I was just perusing TLP when I saw Project Mouse and remembered the saga that played out here. Interestingly enough, not a one of the character silhouette cards, except for the freebie three circle Mikey paint chip ones, is now available. It seems that Disney do care after all.
Just saw this on Gina Miller's fb page: I don't know what bug bit me this weekend but in the past 24 hours, I've created a paper pack & matching washi tape set, 3 sticker packs, a full school-themed kit, began a Fall-themed kit so I'll have something to release the first day of school & re-packaged a beach kit for this week's SOSN. Go me! ツ Can't wait to share it all and do some giveaways in the coming weeks!
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Notice how she mentions the THEMED kits?! I know what "bit" you: the comments on this blog. I can't wait for the coming weeks cuz I want to see how themed they actually are. Gina, a brown flower isn't a "fall themed" element, mmm-kay?
^^^ Exactly what I thought when I read that, LOL.
It seems that Disney do care after all.
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Trust me, they don't.
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Then why are those elements gone? Neither of the designers who created the Project Mouse gave a damn about the copyright violation.
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They probably got enough complaints to warrant removing them from their blogs/shops.
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Do you mean the store owner made them remove the elements due to complaints? Could be.
Britt removed them from her own site/blog. My guess is Steph from TDD made her or she might blacklist her too. Maybe their new podcast host thought it was an infringement - she did it around the beginning of May judging by the comments on the posts.
There were Mickey and Minnie silhouette cards in the first Basic Card set, which are no longer there.
Do you think Ya Yeah Designs will stay at TLP? I hate buying a lot of kits and then see the guests go. As I do only pages for TLP challenges (no CT, no other digi-community, only TLP) , I guess I should buy only residents-kits. What do you buy? guests or residents only or just don't care?
Only residents, unless the guests also sell at a store I shop at.
I'm a CTM for a few designers. One of the designers moved to a different store about 6 months ago. When the owner of the store she was leaving was told about the upcoming move, she was a real bitch to the designer. She even deleted all the layouts in the gallery from that designer after she left. I have layouts in that gallery from a designer that left about 2 years ago, so that was not a normal departure. The problem is, I have another designer that has her store at that site. I hate the thought of visiting that site now.
I buy from guests if I like their stuff. Their products will work for challenges, as long as they are still guesting, right? Also, you can throw in 25% off site products for TLP challenges.
I have wondered myself if Ya Yeah will stay at TLP. TLP seems to be getting so large, with so many designers. Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
25, I get so annoyed when store owners make it tough on designers who leave a store. But I also hate when stores leave REALLY old LOs in the gallery. They embarrass me (c'mon, a 3yo LO is not likely to make anyone who now considers herself "better at DSing" proud) and they take up bandwidth, which costs the store owner money.
IDK if you think telling us will make it easy to guess who you CT for, but what store is this? I'd rather not shop somewhere that the owner is catty like that. (Of course, IDK what the designer did--maybe she broke something in the contract, which she wouldn't tell you, the CT, about. Just playing Devil's Advocate here, I guess.)
What do you buy? guests or residents only or just don't care?
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Don't care as I don't do store challenges anymore after being bitten more than once; so my pages are just for me or more generic challenges.
27. I'm trying to figure out what to do about the other designer that I ct for that is still there. I've had a hard time posting in that gallery because of how I feel about the owner now. IDK what the designer did if anything (other than give notice and leave). I do know that she's left a different store in the past but remains friends with that owner. I do know she is more than generous with her CTM. She is always friendly in the forums, and other designers speak well of her.
29, IDK what to tell you. I guess it breaks down to two things. You'll have to decide which matters more: CTing for the other designer or being annoyed at the store owner for how she treated the designer who left.
30-yes, that is what I'm thinking. I don't want to do anything to hurt the sales of the other designer, but I am annoyed to say the least. I won't go looking for any other designers CT positions there that is for sure!
# 31 blurt the store name! I hope it's not one of my faves (TLP).
"...I don't do store challenges anymore after being bitten more than once"
? how?
32-It's NOT tlp, but I can't say which one it is as it might hurt my other designer still there. It's one that has been talked about here in the past though.
#33, not getting the promised store points; people winning who uploaded a day or two late; having the rules changed half way through after I've uploaded, stuff like that.
34, dude, every store gets talked about here. ;) And it shouldn't hurt the designer who's still there unless she's the ONLY designer there. In fact, most stores mentioned here get people looking at them and can lead to sales. (I guess that's the "no press is bad press" mantra.)
I can bet it's PBP that she's talking about because not only is the designer gallery gone ( which is normal ) but layouts were deleted from users which is just unprofessional. I've never seen that happen
Layouts from users using that particular designer's products? That's pathetic.
It's normal to delete designer galleries when a designer leaves a shop, isn't it? It would be strange for a site to keep former designer's galleries active. I'm a designer at PBP and when designers have left PBP in the past, the owner told the CT so that they could make sure their layouts were in other categories and wouldn't disappear when the designer's gallery was removed. I don't think owners have that much spare time to go through and delete layouts, and don't think the PBP owner would do that. She's easy to work with and avoids drama!
My layouts have been deleted or moved from more than one designer's gallery when I left SO, so it's not uncommon at all. In fact, it happened at SSD too. I doubt the gallery is deleted, probably just deactivated. Layouts are more than likely still there if anyone wants them.
39-I disagree with your assessment.
I'm not the op, but I've been involved at about 7 or 8 different stores as a store CT and when the designers leave, the owners have just changed the category to "members gallery" instead of the designers gallery. They have not deleted the whole gallery of any particular designer.
39 - You would.
I meant 41 you would
It's normal to delete designer galleries when a designer leaves a shop, isn't it?
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Yes,it is normal and the OP even said it was normal.
Obvious question: Once a designer leaves a shop, why in the world would anyone still need or want their gallery around? For most shops, that would be hundreds of galleries and excess server fees, and for what? Doesn't it stand to reason that customers would want to view a designer's current gallery? As long as CT's are given the opportunity to move their layouts, I don't see what the big bitch is.
Why in the world does anyone care if their galleries are deleted anyway? It's not like you use those images for anything at all.
I don't see what the big bitch is.
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What big bitch? Nobody is disputing that when a designer leaves, their gallery can go, however, a user's gallery shouldn't be deleted just because they used that designer's products.
I don't think deleting the designers gallery was ever even the topic. That is not unusual when a designer leaves. Deleting layouts that had the designers product being used in them was the issue. If I had lo's that were in my gallery and came back to them being deleted just because I used designer abc's product and she left I would be pissed as a customer.
#49 ITA It's that the members' galleries were also stripped of the Designer's product. I have had plenty of designers move from store to store and never once have my pages by said designers been stripped from my own personal gallery. Sounds a bit spiteful to me. Just sayin...
I'm pretty sure it was at GP because I CT for a designer that left there about six months ago and we lost some of our layouts after she left. A friend also lost some from a designer at SO some time in the last several months but that could have been over the gallery changes.
I had all my layouts from my member gallery deleted at PBP with no notice from the store. Some of the layouts had been for challenges and had used other templates too. At another store, when the designer left and I had layouts in the designer's gallery, an admin moved them to my personal gallery.
When Dani Mogstad left SSD, every layout that I had in my gallery using Dani's products disappeared almost immediately. It wasn't just that Robin disabled Dani's designer gallery but left the actual layouts alone. I had originally uploaded layouts to both the main member's gallery (so they'd be in my own gallery), and to Dani's designer gallery. When she left, my layouts all disappeared. It made me sad too because I like to go back through and look at my layouts sometimes.
So yes, a store owner WILL be a bitch like that. Especially Robin.
I think it is more likely that an owner will remove all layouts using a designer's products when she leaves if that store's gallery is closed. SSD requires that you use their products in any layouts posted in their gallery. So if a designer leaves, your layout no longer uses products from their shop.
It would be nice if they would give you notice first, though, so you could have time to move your layout somewhere else like DST or MSA or Two Peas or TDC that has an open gallery.
#52 - Can I ask when your layouts were deleted at PBP? I have deleted galleries when designers left PBP, but when you do a search in our gallery on former designers, the layouts are still there. If the layouts weren't added to the members gallery as well as the designer's gallery, then I could see how they may disappear (all uploads are automatically added to Members Gallery unless you change that when uploading). I've never gone into a user's gallery and deleted layouts. I wouldn't do that regardless of why a designer left our shop. So, I'd really like to look into this a bit more to see when and why your layouts were deleted.
53-exactly what happened to mine at another store.
47-I was sad when my layouts were deleted at a particular gallery because some of the layouts were lost in a hard disk drive failure. I was able to retrieve most of them from another gallery, but not all of them. It's just sad when the owner of a store acts that way, and yes, I sure will not be buying anything from that store in the future. My layouts were all put in the members gallery as well as the designers gallery. All of them are gone from that one designer. I had an extensive gallery at this store--dating back to 2009. There have been a lot of designers come and go at that store in that time, and this was the first time any of my layouts were deleted when a designer left, even though I have used many of their products.
It's not the store's responsibility to hang onto your layouts ever. It amazes me that anyone would lose them because an owner deleted them. Give me a break. If you don't want to lose them, save them on your computer and BACK.THE.COMPUTER.UP.
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This!
Besides, if you were any kind of a CT, you'd have posted them at other sites too because that's your job. If you didn't, then the designer who's team you are still on should dump you anyway because you are already affecting her business in a negative way. Or are you just one of those CT's who's in it for the free kits?
It's not a shop owner's responsibility to pay hosting fees on layouts that are no longer promoting a designer in their shop just because you are too lame to save a copy of the layout for yourself. If it were that important to you, you should have.
And who cares if some of them were for challenges? You would have already received your bonus for that the month after you did it. So grow up!
What I don't understand is why people use an online gallery as a "LO back up." They're 72dpi and usually 600x600 or 800x800 pixels. That's not exactly print quality.
I'm with 58: if you care about your digital work, back it up. And then back it up again. And maybe get an online back up service to be triple-sure it's backed up.
#59 - Why so angry?
53 - then please explain to me why my Dani layouts are still there. Maybe something else happened in your instance, because mine are still there. Not disbelieving you, just saying maybe it was something other than Robin being a bitch.
Amen, #58.
I wish stores would delete more old layouts. SSD and PBP and all those other stores are not backups or places to store your ugly ass pages from 4 years ago because you like to browse them occasionally. What a bunch of entitled twits some of you people are.
#61 - Not angry, just think it's ridiculous when people blame others for their own stupidity or lack of follow-through in saving their own layouts. Perhaps they should start a website and pay their own hosting fees so they grasp the concept of hosting stuff that no longer serves a purpose for the site. Move on to the designer's new gallery and don't assume it was an owners fault. I have my own personal shop and I don't even keep old stuff on it.
your ugly ass pages from 4 years ago
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Why assume they are ugly ass?
Not angry, just think it's ridiculous when people blame others for their own stupidity or lack of follow-through in saving their own layouts.
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I agree with this, but you seem angry when you are talking about just being in it for free kits and telling them grow up.
#64 - Perhaps they should start a website and pay their own hosting fees so they grasp the concept of hosting stuff that no longer serves a purpose for the site.
This reflects an attitude that I see all too often in this industry - that it's all about product and CTs. Memorykeeping and community are just afterthoughts.
I am pretty loyal to the couple of stores I shop. As a loyal customer, I would be upset to know that my inferior older layouts using retired products are viewed as no longer "serving a purpose" for the site. I wouldn't want to shop at a store with that type of leadership.
This reflects an attitude that I see all too often in this industry - that it's all about product and CTs. Memorykeeping and community are just afterthoughts.
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This is true of any industry. It's there to make money.
What about the Fix that just came out? I have to say it looks much worse than last month. It has gone downhill and fast! Crystal's templates are the only thing worth having in it.
Totally agree. The kits by Crescent Moon and Angel Dolly (never heard of either) shouldn't even qualify as kits. Luv Ewe's isn't the worst ever, but not great either. It would help if it were previewed better. Those other 2 are beyond hope.
67 - Hosting all of those old layouts takes money and bandwidth. Removing them improves your store, forum, and current gallery experience.
I'd say those are the most important things to keep someone's business.
Agree with #69. The templates by Crystal look great. LuvEwe's doesn't look too bad but the other two are horrendous. Terrible previews. And isn't Charly Crescent Moon?
I do like the templates and Luv Ewe's kit, but the other two are awful. Very beginer's like work. Why are they picking people like that to be in the fix?
71 - I do see your point, and I would have no problem with a store that presented that in a positive way. For instance, if a store said "We want to keep our site efficient and part of our plan to accomplish this involves removing layouts more than two years old ..." Well, that is respectful to customers I think.
But the attitude presented was more along the lines of "Our paying customer's old layouts are ugly and aren't bringing in money for us." That seems disrespectful to me.
Perhaps the motivation in both cases is to simply keep costs down and keep the site up to date. But I still think attitude matters.
So if all the old layouts are such a drain on resources, why don't sites actually have a time limit on them? I personally have never seen a gallery that purges older layouts.
Because layouts take up pretty much no space, really.
72 - Yes Crescent Moon = Charly
Digiscrap Depot is closed.
Digiscrap Depot is closed.
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That's a blast from the past! I used to go there ALL the time for freebies when I was first starting out.
SMACK!!!!
WHACK!!!!!
SMACK!!!!
Wake up folks!!
Hey Shirley!!!
59-Sometimes people here don't know what they are talking about, or what the designer in question required of the ct. The layouts of mine that were deleted were less than a month old. I back up my layouts at the end of the month. I now back up more often. Also, the designer in question only wanted the CT to post at the one gallery until the kit was released at her other store. I know the layouts in the galleries are only 72 dpi--but I could have reproduced it better than I was able to do by memory. I don't expect store owners to be my backup. I don't care if they delete my layouts from 4 years ago, but you'd think they'd keep the ones that were posted in that month.
Sometimes people here don't know what they are talking about,
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Perhaps if they had all the information in the first place.
What so #81, you don't save your layouts on your hard drive? WTH? I always thought it was about the comments, not the actual layouts, I mean, why wouldn't you keep your layouts? Why would you ONLY have them on an online gallery, makes no sense at all!
OH MY GOD !! just had a look to the september DST blogtrain... and even if i took part sometimes, now it's not possible anymore !! it's awfull.
Where can a descent designer find a descent blogtrain if she doesn't sell in one store from the digicrap parade ?
Yes, the September DST blog train is downright fugly.
I know a couple of stores still do monthly blog trains (SNP, STS) so you might check those out. They do let anyone create stuff for the trains, so there can be a pretty wide range of quality but it's certainly better than the stuff I've seen so far for the DST train.
83-I used to save my layouts to two hard drives once a month. Now I do it more often. If you don't save to two, you don't back up. I don't use online storage areas. I don't even look at the comments, so no, it's not about the comments. I scrap for me with the designers kits. I don't scrap for comments. I have fun with the kits, and I love the teams. It's as easy as that. I use my photos--which are on three hard drives by the way. I don't back up kits. They are only on one hard drive.
84, you might want to focus on learning to spell "decent" before you worry about promoting yourself in a blog train. I'm almost not kidding, in fact. The impression you'll be giving to your customers if you type blog posts like that is SEVERELY unprofessional and just makes you look like a twit.
I think the point is, a store owner, or one of her assistants, decided to be a big ole bitch and go through and delete all the layouts that had product on them from the designer who left her store. She couldn't handle the departure of one of the designers professionally and part ways maturely. Instead she resorted to name calling and pettiness. Hopefully the few non-fantasy designers left at her store will move and I can shop from them. In the meantime, I will give he store no business at all.
*her store
The impression you'll be giving to your customers if you type blog posts like that is SEVERELY unprofessional and just makes you look like a twit.
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Since you don't know who it is, what does it matter?
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87 as i'm not english i type my blog posts in my native langage. And my spell in my langage is pretty well.
The impression you'll be giving to your customers if you type blog posts like that is SEVERELY unprofessional and just makes you look like a twit.
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Actually, this post makes YOU look like a petty, uninformed asshole. Not everyone speaks English as a first language. The fact that they TRY is appreciated by lots of folks, I'm sure. It certainly is by me. I cannot imagine even attempting to do likewise in Spanish, Italian, French, Mandarin, etc.!
I think the point is, a store owner, or one of her assistants, decided to be a big ole bitch and go through and delete all the layouts that had product on them from the designer who left her store. She couldn't handle the departure of one of the designers professionally and part ways maturely. Instead she resorted to name calling and pettiness. Hopefully the few non-fantasy designers left at her store will move and I can shop from them. In the meantime, I will give he store no business at all.
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Is this Pickleberry Pop?
Yes, most of the DST blog train parts are fugly. The only one that catches my eye is queen bee scraps. The rest are just fugly.
#94 - You've got to be kidding> Queen bee scraps is one of the worst there.
Is this Pickleberry Pop?
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No, it's not.
you might want to focus on learning to spell "decent" before you worry about promoting yourself in a blog train. I'm almost not kidding, in fact. The impression you'll be giving to your customers if you type blog posts like that is SEVERELY unprofessional and just makes you look like a twit.
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Oh, it's you again.
I am not the OP but I agree that bad spelling and grammar looks unprofessional. It looks like you don't take your business seriously. If English isn't your first language - get someone to help you with it.
It's a smack blog, not a business site. Telling someone she looks unprofessional, when you don't even know who she is, just makes you look a little nit picky.
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I think you mean it makes you look like an asshole.
we talked about people scrappin' pet photos and baby photos..what about people scrappin' the same photo again and again?
http://www.the-lilypad.com/gallery/data/500/aboutmeweb.jpg
101 - Why do you care what other people scrap about? Why does anyone care?
we talked about people scrappin' pet photos and baby photos..what about people scrappin' the same photo again and again?
http://www.the-lilypad.com/gallery/data/500/aboutmeweb.jpg
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So what? I used to do that a lot for my on line gallery CT work.
we talked about people scrappin' pet photos and baby photos..what about people scrappin' the same photo again and again?
http://www.the-lilypad.com/gallery/data/500/aboutmeweb.jpg
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How about linking to the whole gallery next time if you are going to smack someone for using the same photo again and again.
Who are the nicest digi shop owners to work with....who are the worst?
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I don't know, who?
Is it a riddle?
we talked about people scrappin' pet photos and baby photos..what about people scrappin' the same photo again and again?
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I've done this and I'm not even on a ct. I do different pages for different reasons and people. Some pics are so special to me that I used them over and over. What's it to you if people do that? Get a life.
Who are the nicest digi shop owners to work with....who are the worst?
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Wouldn't you rather make your own judgements in this area instead of depending upon others' experiences?
I've done this and I'm not even on a ct. I do different pages for different reasons and people. Some pics are so special to me that I used them over and over. What's it to you if people do that? Get a life.
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While I agree with you, telling someone on a smack blog to "get a life" is kind of ironic.
Who are the nicest digi shop owners to work with....who are the worst?
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Wouldn't you rather make your own judgements in this area instead of depending upon others' experiences?
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As someone who went from working for Royanna to working for Charley, NO!!
I should add that working for Charley was nothing like working for Royanna. Everything just blew up around Charley and resulted in the store closing quickly.
I use some of my photos over again. I find another kit I love, and know that a particular photo, or set of photos, will work well with it, so I'll use it again. No big problem. I'll usually change up the journaling to reflect a different memory of this person though. Since I'm a memory scrapper, and not an event scrapper, it works for me. I've even scrapped the same events again with another kit when I find a different kit I love. What I can't figure out is why that would bother someone else. It's my family, my memories, my events. If I want to scrap them again, who else should even care?
110-It's all a personal choice. One person may find one store owner great while another one not so much. Personally, I didn't care for working at PBP. At first, everything seemed just fine, but as time went by, I felt like I was being dictated to. Like I said, though, that is just a personal feeling.
Speaking of black lists...who's on them designer wise?
TDD black-listed Pixels and Co.
I think the point is, a store owner, or one of her assistants, decided to be a big ole bitch and go through and delete all the layouts that had product on them from the designer who left her store. She couldn't handle the departure of one of the designers professionally and part ways maturely. Instead she resorted to name calling and pettiness. Hopefully the few non-fantasy designers left at her store will move and I can shop from them. In the meantime, I will give he store no business at all.
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Is this Pickleberry Pop?
-- YES!! I was OP not sure what why the other person thought it wasn't
116-It was probably the owner trying to deflect negative comments. Looks like a designer didn't care to have her store there.
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Doubt that. I saw her on here a while ago directly asking about the gallery issue so she doesn't seem the type to hide.
YES!! I was OP not sure what why the other person thought it wasn't
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I hope you contacted the owner then when she asked you too at post #55.
of course not. how could she get any mileage out of that? she'd have to admit that maybe it wasn't done maliciously
As someone who went from working for Royanna to working for Charley, NO!!
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Maybe the universe is trying to tell you something.
As someone who went from working for Royanna to working for Charley, NO!!
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Maybe the universe is trying to tell you something.
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What? Quit? 'bout ready to anyway. I'll just give away freebies...
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I don't know what it's trying to tell you but you sure have had some bad luck. Sorry about that.
#119 & 120 - No I was never contacted, but I have a good idea who the OP was. It's just as 120 said, they'd find it wasn't done out of malice. I do delete galleries when designers leave, whether they leave with good feelings or not (and the list of those who didn't leave on good terms is very short :). But, I don't delete individual layouts. Anyway, the offer is still open to contact me. If layouts did disappear, I'd like to find out why.
#119 & 120 - No I was never contacted
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No surprise there.
of course not. how could she get any mileage out of that? she'd have to admit that maybe it wasn't done maliciously
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Isn't that the truth.
The only designer I recall leaving there suddenly is Trixie Scraps, which would explain it. I'm sure that whatever happened was certainly everyone's fault but her own. --eyeroll--
Personally, I didn't care for working at PBP. At first, everything seemed just fine, but as time went by, I felt like I was being dictated to.
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Well, the store owner is in charge, right? Didn't you have a clear idea of expectations
before you started there? It seems that maybe you are the one who is the problem since I've seen no designer mass exodus from there. Maybe you don't communicate very well, are hypersensitive and/or have problems with reading comprehension (there WAS a written con-
tract, right?).
128 - I've never seen a store contract that states designers can't have opinions and suggestions and the store owner is the ultimate dictator only to be obeyed.
The store owner isn't "in charge". That would mean she's a designer's boss. Designers are independent and the store is merely selling goods on a designer's behalf to which the designer given a commission.
I'm pretty sure it's you who lacks reading comprehension.
Sadly, there are a few store owners who run their stores like dictatorships and too many designers who believe it's okay - and apparently at least one who has it in her contract that she's the store owner's bitch.
A reasonable store owner will find a balance between total chaos and dictatorship and maintain the store for the good of the ownership and the whole team. One cannot exist without the other. But, ultimately, the owner is not there to run a kidergarten or suck up to designers because they are too precious to do as they are required, follow the leadership or follow store requirements. Ultimately, it is the store owner that funds and maintains the store, not the designers.
and apparently at least one who has it in her contract that she's the store owner's bitch.
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If she signed the contract, that's between her and the other party ...
Do you think any of the "top tier" stores got that way by letting designers run over the top of them because they think they are too good to follow basic guidelines, deadlines, and marketing goals? Highly doubtful.
Considering Trixie Scraps seems to be the only designer who has left suddenly, I'd give the benefit of the doubt to the store owner first. Trixie Scraps has a reputation for being a victim. I used to be on her CT but didn't enjoy her drama. That was a few years ago though.
Ultimately, it is the store owner that funds and maintains the store, not the designers.
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Uh, the commission the store earns from the designer's sales are what fund and maintain the store. Without designers and their sales, the store is nothing.
Do you think any of the "top tier" stores got that way by letting designers run over the top of them because they think they are too good to follow basic guidelines, deadlines, and marketing goals? Highly doubtful.
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Did someone say they thought they were? Maybe I missed a post somewhere, but I didn't see that mentioned.
Did someone say they thought they were? Maybe I missed a post somewhere, but I didn't see that mentioned.
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I didn't say they were. I was merely pointing out the fact that there's nothing wrong with strong owners who won't be run over. If you were to look at the shops that you, yourself, might consider to be top-tier, I doubt the owner is a wuss. If you were to go by past posts, one might consider SO, SSD, or SBG to be top-tier, and I've never seen anyone post about what pussies any of their owners are. In fact, just the opposite. So why would anyone expect any other owner to be passive or to be accused of being a dictator because they refuse to put up with people like Tracy?
I wouldn't want to be in a shop that had a wimpy owner. It wouldn't be successful. Many designers are known for pushing limits and I think any shop that is ultimately successful, would need to maintain a balance between supportive but organized.
You can be strong, not a wuss and not a dictator. It doesn't have to be so black and white. From what I've heard about SO, a store owner can clearly go too far in the controlling category. There has been a lot of turnover there for a "top tier" store IMO.
I don't think the OP was calling PBP owner a dictator because of Tracy. She spoke of her own experiences with the owner only.
I think you're reading a bit much into this discussion, 135.
Ultimately, it is the store owner that funds and maintains the store, not the designers.
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Especially if she doesn't pay her designers regularly like Royanna
I don't think the OP was calling PBP owner a dictator because of Tracy. She spoke of her own experiences with the owner only.
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What makes you think the OP wasn't Tracy or one of her cronies?
Oh lookie! Another "traditional" designer is closing shop at PBP home of the fugly fantasy crap. Shocker.
I hate to take the wind out of your sails Tracy, but she's retiring, not moving to another shop.
Wow you people are making a hill out of this talk. I have no idea who left PBP at a fast rate. But if they did it was because they were asked to do something in a timely manner and that didn't happen. Every single store I have ever worked has rules and if you fight each rule you are going to told to leave and that will usually happen at any shop. Some designers seem to this this is a hobby,it is business people. If you are designing as a hobby - that your hard earn money - design a website and get zen cart and go play in your own playground. Because I hate to tell you these sites are businesses and should be run like a business. Business have rules to keep things running like a good business should. SO always keep this in mind. If your not a team player and looking to make some money then dont join a site that you think is top tier to middle tier, it just wont work.
AS for PBP I personally think it is a very well run shop. And the reason I say that seems the designers participate weekly, newsletters go out always on time. That doesn't show a set of unhappy designers, it show a well run business.
"Oh lookie! Another "traditional" designer is closing shop at PBP home of the fugly fantasy crap. Shocker." Bitter much and jealous on the other hand. If this is indeed Tracy - you should be ashamed of yourself. And even if it isnt Tracy who ever this person is really had some balls to say something like this since you signing in Anonymously - so we can judge you work that apparently is superior in nature. You know that old say to each is own. I would never have the gall to say someones work was fugly - it might not be my cup of tea. So keep your opinions to yourself unless you can sign your name and get out from under the paper bag you have on your big head hiding like a big coward.
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Best laugh I've had all day. Mixed metaphors, a touch of hypocrisy, all interwoven with a homey Paula Deen voice.
So keep your opinions to yourself unless you can sign your name and get out from under the paper bag you have on your big head hiding like a big coward.
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Wise words indeed, darlin', now, how 'bout your follow your own advice, sugar?
THIS ^^^^^ thanks for a chuckle with my morning coffee!
Worst store owner? One who can't be bothered to reply to emails, takes her sweet time in paying you, practically encourages trademark/copyright violation, and doesn't make sure all designers are fulfilling their contract obligations. Glad I left.
^^^ dish on the store name, please?
Who comes to a smack blog and says 'keep your opinions to yourself'??
I would never have the gall to say someones work was fugly
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However, you WOULD have the gall to post a rambling, poorly written diatribe admonishing someone to not post smack on a smack blog.
Who comes to a smack blog and says 'keep your opinions to yourself'??
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I know! An idiot.
I would never have the gall to say someones work was fugly
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However, you WOULD have the gall to post a rambling, poorly written diatribe admonishing someone to not post smack on a smack blog.
^^this
And many people call people's work ugly. The fantasy stuff, in my opinion, is ridiculous. Let's take a lovely picture and cute it out and stick in a garden. Some may call it art, but I think it looks dumb. Some people may call their hook loomed sampler of the cat on a pillow art, but I think it's ugly too. It looks as though PBP wants to be fantasy pages R us. If they have the business to support the company good for them. If you are a designer doing a more traditional scrapbooking thing, find a store with customers who actually use your products.
sorry cut
I checked just PBP, I'm not seeing how they are trying to be Fantasy Pages R Us. Seems as though someone is being an asshole.
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Someone definitely is. I like having some variety to choose from. I don't love every designer every week, but I find products I like from several of them quite often. I think they've come along quite nicely the last year or so, especially since they've picked up at least a few more traditional style designers. I've had great customer service from them too.
Some may think that a shop that sticks to the same style is the way to go, but I don't personally like it. I can go to SSD and everything there looks pretty much alike. It's the same stuff over and over. I used to buy a ton of stuff there but not anymore. There's no variety.
SO used to have a pretty decent selection of designers but a few of my favorites have retired and they haven't been able to find new ones that I like as well. Their selection has gotten kind of slim too.
TDC and TLP are hit and miss for me.
The fantasy stuff, in my opinion, is ridiculous. Let's take a lovely picture and cute it out and stick in a garden. Some may call it art, but I think it looks dumb. Some people may call their hook loomed sampler of the cat on a pillow art, but I think it's ugly too.
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Those who cannot do something, tend to put it down.
I can do fantasy pages but I still don't like them. I also don't like random, extracted 'realistic' items in a kit ... like it's 'realistic' for me to put an apple and a donkey and an antique chair on some photos, add some hay and a ribbon, tuck a small dollar store doll in behind it all, and call it art.
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Not liking them is not the same as putting them down and being an asshat about them. I don't mind realistic elements but they need to make sense with the kit.
Is there any honest to goodness use for something like this? I find that I am a loss for words.
http://www.deviantscrap.com/shop/product.php?productid=21146&cat&page
well, the store is called deviant scrap!
Since P&Co. was blacklisted from TDF because Gennifer owned this blog at one time, and SO will not participate in anything that she or P&Co is involved in - SSD feeling mostly the same - I wonder. Fayette is posting here on behalf on PBP. Will PBP be banned from TDF also for Fayette's involvement here?
159 - They should be if the blacklisting is going to be consistent.
If Steph bans everyone who reads or posts here, they might as well shut down their business
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This. And not everyone who reads here is here to enjoy the smacking. Sometimes it's to be aware of what's going on in digiland, even if not all of it is valid. Some of it is.
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Is there any honest to goodness use for something like this? I find that I am a loss for words.
http://www.deviantscrap.com/shop/product.php?productid=21146&cat&page"
Before someone accuses me of being on Marta's CT, I am! I'm on her CT because I love her work. It's unique, it's original, it's fun to play with. It's not for scrapbooking (in my eyes, except ocassionally) but it is for play.
Some of are not traditional scrappers. Some of us use this hobby for our own creativity. For fun. Not for documentation.
Lighten up.
I can go to SSD and everything there looks pretty much alike. It's the same stuff over and over. I used to buy a ton of stuff there but not anymore. There's no variety.
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I agree with this. EVERYTHING (except for Ru's stuff which I usually don't really like) DOES look the same. Go look at the Sneak Peeks for this week. All the same old stuff that I already have. I don't care for 90% of SO's stuff anymore and P@Co is WAY too expensive. TLP doesn't hold my interest AT ALL anymore either. Pickleberry Pop, here I come to look, however, I already know I do NOT care for JumpStart Designs. I just may be S.O.L!
Is there any honest to goodness use for something like this? I find that I am a loss for words.
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Yet, you miraculously found some. I'm so glad you did. Whatever would we have done without your enlightening post?
Pickleberry Pop, here I come to look, however, I already know I do NOT care for JumpStart Designs. I just may be S.O.L!
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I do. She also has the best customer service of any designer I've had to deal with. I also like Fayettes Designs and Joeys designs, although Joeys doesn't release new stuff very often.
157, that would be a great kit to scrap a MD grad, or to use for my child's latest hospital stay. No, I wouldn't put the anatomy stuff on there, but I would put the docs/nurses.
Actually, I would use the lungs on a LO about how freaking loud my kids are. They've each got a set of lungs.
Such an f'ing bunch of hypocrites here! I've been reading through and it seems that you each must know who the other is and run in the same circles and teams! I base this on the observation that several of you like to latch on to the same topics and people and really screw them over verbally, but then someone else comes in with something to say or show that apparently isn't in your circle, and they get ridiculed! So I'm guessing that majority here are either spurned CT or rejected designers, or clearly just disgruntled biddies who all have nothing better to do than bitch about everything and everyone. That's why I read here, to be entertained and glean info on who I DON'T want in my shoppes or on my teams, and to gather clues about whom I might be removing next from my shoppe because they can't keep their mouth shut! You ladies are a goldmine for store owners, truly a goldmine, you have no idea just how transparent some of you are. Being around many of you on forums, your "writing" style and grievances give you away, and some of you are a real piece of work, nice to others faces and stab you in the back in the blink of an eye.
Such an f'ing bunch of hypocrites here etc.etc.etc.
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Bottom Line: You have no idea for sure who anybody is unless you have access to our information. If reading peoples' opinions on matters disturbs you so, why read AND participate?
On the other hand, if, like you also state, that this is "a gold mine for store owners" and you imply that you are one, why so hostile? From what YOU say, this is a wealth of info for ya. You should be THANKING the posters in that
case, not berating them.
So I'm guessing that majority here are either spurned CT or rejected designers, or clearly just disgruntled biddies who all have nothing better to do than bitch about everything and everyone.
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Well, you guess wrong. Speaking of hypocritical, aren't you bitching about people bitching? Idiot.
Also, just because someone disagrees with YOU does not mean that person is miserable.
That's why I read here, to be entertained and glean info on who I DON'T want in my shoppes or on my teams, and to gather clues about whom I might be removing next from my shoppe because they can't keep their mouth shut!
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Oh, I'm shakin' in my boots now! Damn! Please don't do THIS! I want sell in your anonymous store and/or be on one of your anonymous "teams." Please don't reject me because of who I am anonymously!
"--to gather clues about whom I might be removing next from my shoppe because they can't keep their mouth shut!"
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We have a regular SHERLOCK HOLMES in DIGILAND!
- whom I might be removing next from my shoppe because they can't keep their mouth shut-
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You'd remove someone from your shop because of what you THOUGHT they said on an anonymous blog?
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ITA. Seems a TAD extreme, don't you think 168? Especially if you can't actually confirm who left the comment.
OMG you all used commas and periods in your posts! I KNOW WHO YOU ARE!!!!!!!!
OMG you all used commas and periods in your posts! I KNOW WHO YOU ARE!!!!!!!!
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And..I know who YOU ARE!!!!
I'm sure you don't!
168: You have no idea who I am. NONE.
138-The op wasn't Tracy or her cronies. It was me, and I stand by the statement. For a bunch of people that seem to think they know who everybody is that posts on this blog, you assumed wrong.
Is there any honest to goodness use for something That's why I read here, to be entertained and glean info on who I DON'T want in my shoppes or on my teams, and to gather clues about whom I might be removing next from my shoppe because they can't keep their mouth shut! You ladies are a goldmine for store owners, truly a goldmine, you have no idea just how transparent some of you are. Being around many of you on forums, your "writing" style and grievances give you away, and some of you are a real piece of work, nice to others faces and stab you in the back in the blink of an eye.
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I hope you do know who I am because I don't want to be on your team or sell in your shop, you are a hypocrite, a liar and an asshat.
For a bunch of people that seem to think they know who everybody is that posts on this blog, you assumed wrong.
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No, no, that would be #168, she seems to know who everyone is.
So I'm guessing that majority here are either spurned CT or rejected designers, or clearly just disgruntled biddies who all have nothing better to do than bitch about everything and everyone.'
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Make up your mind! You either know who we are, or you don't. If we are so transparent, as you claim, why the need to guess? With all that bitching you are doing, I'm guessing you are either a spurned CT, rejected designer or a disgruntled biddy. Which is it? I'm going for biddy, seeing as you couldn't type out the world fucking.
You'd remove someone from your shop because of what you THOUGHT they said on an anonymous blog?
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Lucky for them really, imagine working for that hypocrite. She implies we are all nasty individuals and yet tells us she is entertained by us.
I sure am glad my store owner doesn't act like that
Doesn't take much to stir you biddies up does it? Point made, you'll bitch about ANYTHING. For crying out loud, go cook, or clean or screw your spouse, get some of that aggression out instead of sitting on your asses all day bitching about shit you all know nothing about either. I'd like to see some of you actually do the things many of the designers you put down do! Funny how you are such experts. I personally think you each should look in your own yard, see what you can fix there instead of looking over others fences, because clearly you all have issues. It's one thing to discuss or trash bad product, bad store owners, poor service, etc, but honestly, you really go too far, I hope that what you have sown comes back to get you ten fold, karma is a bitch, and will bite you in the ass harder than you think, and I hope someone gets in your face in your real life and tells you what incredibly stupid bitches you all are for sitting on your asses bitching about internet bullshit, and for spending your old mens hard earned money on what you apparently think is trash. Go ahead, keep trashing people, ruin lives and businesses, what is it to you, it isn't food off your table, or bills unpaid because a few bad words screwed your sales now is it? Must be nice to sit there and make others feel as shitty as you obviously feel about yourself! Now go ahead, trash me, speculate who I am, where I own, or shop, or ct, give it your all because you are just dying to spew more vile words at anyone, and get up on your asses and act queen bitch to everyone.
Oh btw, FYI I cannot hold a job out of my home as I am physically disabled, I work online, I make good money, and I do design, in a top tier digital shop, as well as I design for a print company, so I know quality, and nothing digital can ever be as clear as print, and yes I read here often!
I personally think you each should look in your own yard, see what you can fix there instead of looking over others fences, because clearly you all have issues
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How about following your own advice, dearie?
karma is a bitch
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No, it isn't. Go and look up what Karma is and what it means.
Go ahead, keep trashing people, ruin lives and businesses,
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Ruin lives? Get a grip.
instead of sitting on your asses all day bitching about shit you all know nothing about either.
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Ironically, you've written more in two posts that most of us have written in a month. It would seem that while some of us spend about five minutes here, you are spending way too long here. You seem really aggressive as well.
speculate who I am, where I own, or shop, or ct,
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I don't care to know who you are. You seem to be a bitter and angry person. You think you are so much better than everyone else here. Newsflash, you aren't, you are just the same.
Personally, whomever the OP is of any of the above posts, it really looks like ya'll have just as much anger and aggression as she does. Strange how her one point rings true, you do latch on to the next thing that comes up and start ripping. Maybe she is one of those you have thrashed so soundly? Or is it more along the lines of you can dish it out, but anyone else who does needs bitch slapped about it? It is a smack blog "dearies" (someone is a Rumpelstiltskin fan) not a turf war, so why such aggression in return if she didn't hit a sore spot?
Really 191? You mean *gasp* you aren't bitter and angry, as are the rest of the "ladies" here? WOW!!
Does anyone actually have a legit gripe about a bad product or does everyone sit in the same circle at story time and trade insults about the same old people?
Really 191? You mean *gasp* you aren't bitter and angry, as are the rest of the "ladies" here? WOW!!
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Where did I say that? Oh, no where. Learn to read.
Personally, whomever the OP is of any of the above posts, it really looks like ya'll have just as much anger and aggression as she does. Strange how her one point rings true, you do latch on to the next thing that comes up and start ripping. Maybe she is one of those you have thrashed so soundly? Or is it more along the lines of you can dish it out, but anyone else who does needs bitch slapped about it? It is a smack blog "dearies" (someone is a Rumpelstiltskin fan) not a turf war, so why such aggression in return if she didn't hit a sore spot?
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and you are no exception, are you?
Does anyone actually have a legit gripe about a bad product or does everyone sit in the same circle at story time and trade insults about the same old people?
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This is not a product review blog. Why do people keep asking such stupid questions.
It is a smack blog "dearies" (someone is a Rumpelstiltskin fan)
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What?
Well 185 it seems it didn't take much to stir you up either, did it? I have a feeling I know who you are and why you are so upset, but, I can only speculate, seeing as this IS an anonymous smack blog. You are angry because you are, or were, the subject of a smack here (again speculation on my part). If you are, or were, being smacked the best way to make sure you don't lose business is to change the thing that people are complaining about. You cannot please everyone, so it's either important enough to do something about, or you don't care, but, either way you know that it is pissing people off and knowledge is power. If it bothers you so terribly, maybe it's time for you to look away. Take some of your own advice and find something else to do, besides reading here. I get a lot of great information from this blog, like it or not, and I have been introduced to some awesome designers that I would have never heard about. I take this blog for what it is, you would do you nerves well by trying to do the same thing.
I can't think of anyone physically disabled who designs for a top shop and print company. Anyone else?
I'd like to never buy from this person who rants at people to get a life and not spend so much time putting people down while putting people down.
It's not the smack on this blog that ruins a designers business, it's how the designer handles the smack. Negative reviews are a fact of life in almost everything we do. Handle it with grace and you'll be fine. Handle it like the holier-than-thou designer in 185 and your business likely will suffer. Not because of this blog, but because you're a bitter bitch who likes to tell others what they should be doing with their time.
I can't think of anyone physically disabled who designs for a top shop and print company. Anyone else?
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Zoe Pearn has a chip on her shoulder. Does that count?
200-That was funny.
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