@ 3 Well, Jennifer, PCO is just another mediocre store. In fact, there are many digiscrappers who don't like flat elements and kits that look all the same.
Looks like if you don't do what Robin wants (close your store at SHC) then you get axed without warning. I would be running the other way if I sold there. It's not the first time she has done this (Mari) because things didn't go her way. I'm sure she will find a good home at TLP or PCO quickly.
You all just love to stir the pot of drama, don't you? Nicole announced to her CT that she was leaving SSD long before her shop closed. Her departure was planned - by her - not by Robin or anyone else that I am aware of. It might be hard for the SSD faithful to believe because in their brains that is the only digi store that exists on the internet, but maybe she *gasp* chose to leave because she wanted to??? Also for the record I do not believe she was asked to close her store at Sugar Hill. I heard that Robin just asked all of her designers to reevaluate whether SSD was really where they wanted to be and Nicole realized she hated it there so she shocked Robin and have her 2 weeks notice.
Not a word from Nicole on it either. Looks like Robin struck again. Re is leaving Oscraps, I wonder if he's joining Ju at SSD? ------------------------------
I'm 10 and I did not say that Robin is a good boss, I just said that she didn't force Nicole out and that her decision to leave SSD was her own and based on her own business reasons. There are a lot of other things on this blog about Robin that are true, such as the one 9 referred to.
Didn't Nicole make a big to do about how SSD was a dream come true and she'd long wished she would be there...all at the same time as she left her own store?
Re announced he is leaving Oscraps and opening somewhere else. No explanation. I suppose that with everything going on at SSD and Ju selling there, it's possible that he's going there.
Interesting the Re has decided not to retire completely as he was originally spouting here, last month I believe.
Personally, I am not an SSD fan, #2. I think they are so busy pumping out product that the product suffers. A lot of the kits look the same, and a few of the color choices by designers have been interesting. I prefer a kit that looks thought out, rather than one that looks thrown together. Every store has designers with this problem. I think there is good and bad at all of the stores.
I don't have a favorite store, but I do know I haven't spent any money at SSD for awhile.
17 Robin might be a b**ch but ain't no stupid to take someone like him. Re is a joke. How many times has he retired yet? Plus he has made a fool out of himself here a while back! I can't stop laughing!
I used to adore Flergs but now every single thing in her kits is a recolor of something in a different kit of hers. I guess that's similar to the other SSD designers, but wow, what a disappointment.
I agree, 22. There was a discussion before on this blog about whether designers should have a signature style. I can recognize her kits from afar, but I don't buy them much anymore (unless I can't resist a certain color combo). Same with Red Ivy.
Maybe SMJ doesn't, but it's clear the designer you claim she was violating terms for doesn't give a fuck about Disney's copyright, either. Why not smack her, as well? Someday it might catch up with both of them and put them both out of business. Do you think either of them care? I don't.
I think the perception of SSD being the final wanted destination of designers is antiquated. There are other good stores around and always have been. I think it is good for the market and for designers to have more than two shops to aspire to. Competition is a good thing.
I don't get why digi scrapping has store rivalry that puts some easy coast west coast gangs to shame! I imagine a scene from west side story or something but instead of knives the women would wield paper cutters and glitter to toss in eachothers eyes.
I don't get the feeling that the stores see themselves as fighting rivals. I think that comes from customers who had problems with various stores. I'm on a couple CTs, so I don't know a lot of the behind the scene news, but I have witnessed designers brainstorming about things to make a store better. They might ask the CT what they like at various different places, and even mention a store by name ... but it was more to get ideas about what things customers like and to make their own store better - not to try to take another store down.
I think POC has a few great designers, just like the lily pad and SSD. Every wonder if sugar plum paperie left because no one was buying her stuff? They've got to have a sales goal at these stores, right?
All stores have good and bad designers. How can a store survive if all of its designers are bad? And some mediocre designers sometimes put out a nice kit, just like great designers sometimes put out a crappy kit. I do agree Sugarplum may not be having great sales. Her kits are small compared to other SSD kits, and they don't really stand out.
SPP's kits didn't stand out at all and, like the others have said, they were small compared to others. All three stores (P&CO, TLP and SSD) have designers who do not regularly produce. I wish they'd get more designers who produced more often. I think they're all three on the right track with quality designers..just wish they had more to offer each week.
I might consider applying if I knew who was behind the store, or who was on the admin team. But, since they are being so secretive about it, I think it's probably wise to steer clear.
A couple of designers I CT for received invitation letters to open store there. Apparently the store owner is someone named Katie. There isn't even a last name.
What store has a good admin team? or who are good admin people? I'm considering an admin person - combo customer service, ads, newsletter and social media.
Thank you 40 for letting me know where Sugarplum Paperie went. I used to follow her at SSD and was a bit miffed she disappeared without a sale-but it looks like at P&Co she is having a 50% off sale-That never would happen at SSD so I'm going to go grab stuff that was on my wish list! sometimes change is good!
Of course there wasn't a sale at SSD- Robin isn't going to let a designer that is leaving for another store advertise that. Most stores won't let you do it. That's why you usually see them leave a store, then a few days later have a grand re-opening sale at their new store.
What are you talking about, 45? Most stores would allow closing sales. There are closing sales/retiring sales all over the place. It's the last chance the store's get to earn money from the designer who's leaving.
I think Scrapbookgraphics and Oscraps are on a par with P&C and Lilypad. I'm surprised to see them not mentioned here. & they are a better bet for those who do art journaling & more "artistic" pages.
I thought Charley and Royanna were the same person.
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naw, Charley and her twins and triplets are all healthy. Royanna has all kinds of diseases/disorders, some of which have been miraculously cured by people praying for her!
"I think Scrapbookgraphics and Oscraps are on a par with P&C and Lilypad. I'm surprised to see them not mentioned here. & they are a better bet for those who do art journaling & more "artistic" pages. "
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I agree. I totally love Scrapbook Graphics and the average designer is top quality
48, I've followed a few other designers when they moved to PCO in recent months and it seems like they always open up with some products in their shop but then keep adding their old products every Tuesday for their weekly feature sale so I have always been able to get almost everything I wanted from my wishlist at their old shop for a good deal if I pay attention.
When was the last time a designer from SSD left to go to another shop? I can only think of Lauren Grier leaving for TLP a few years ago and then coming back. Is the idea that someone left SSD to go somewhere else as surprising as it seems to me? I really can't think of this ever happening before other than Lauren. I always thought that SSD designers stayed there forever unless they retired or stopped designing digital kits.
A new store is coming ... Scrap Nerds. Anyone wants to bet who is putting this off ? ___________________
No. But considering there's a paper scrapbook store called Scrapbook Nerd, and a blogger at ScrapNerd it's not the best idea for a new store. Your customers could quickly end up at the wrong site.
On the store topic: I like that there's competition. I like that I can go to different stores for different types of kits. I don't like the Oscraps store. I'm not sure if it's their template, but it makes a lot of the product appear muted or overly saturated. And I'm not super artsy, so I often end up not visiting Scrapbook Graphics. Hence, why those stores aren't on my radar. Scraps N Pieces is the same. All of their previews are overly fuzzy for me. I like to be able to see a clear picture before I commit to purchase. After all, if the preview is fuzzy, the product might fuzzy or subpar as well.
I don't have an answer to 52 but it make me curious. Have designers ever left TLP to go to another digital store? Which store have the best retention? I always looked to SSD and TLP as the two top stores because designers from other stores seem to go there but not the other way around. Some people say SO is a top store but I have always seen designers leaving SO to go to other stores like TLP, SSD, SBG. I don't ever see designers from those stores leaving to go to SO though.
SSD, TLP and PCO are the best stores, imo. I wish though that they'd get more designers who produced more often. A larger, more diversified selection of designs is needed at all three places. Like with anything, there's lots of room for improvement!
Lauren Reid use to jump from store to store like it was nobody's business. She sold at SSD and the Lilypad I think. And some other places. I always liked her stuff, but I had a hard time finding her. I really don't like when designers hop from store to store. And she was a great designer. I think Micheline Martin left SSD for the Lilypad too, or the other way around.
Design Digitals is a mystery to me. They have been around forever but no one seems to go there. They are having a 40% off sale, as far as I know they have never done that, I wonder if sales are just bad everywhere and that's why so many are retiring or trying to move to greener pastures.
DSP was taken over by My Memories a short while back and it looks like they are closing it down. Yet another site to be swallowed by My Memories. DSP was part of the digiscrap industry for over 10 years. Such a shame!
Designer Digitals does their quarterly sale every... quarter. Usually it's 30% off but often she'll send out a coupon to subscribers for an extra percent off. 40% is new and might be a sign of a struggle. I used to buy a lot of Ali/Cathy Z stuff and I'd just wait for the quarterly sale to pick it up.
Interesting how the Design Cuts deal was mentioned, and then clikchic posted. Her brushes seem to be included in the deal. It doesn't appear to be a bad deal, but I'd rather have fonts.
I have been subscribed to the Designer Digitals newsletter for years, I've never noticed a coupon for an extra % off. Their sales have always been 30%, once a couple months ago they did templates 40% off but as far as I know this is the first time they've ever done 40% off the whole store.
You mean that earlier she posted the Design Cuts info and then deleted it? Or she posted the same thing under her name again that she had posted earlier? It doesn't really matter, but I'm curious now.
I love when designers accidentally post under their real name, and then delete it, and then feel the need to come back and post under their real name again a few times with non-inflammatory posts just to prove that what they posted the first time wasn't so bad. It's almost like "look at me, I never post anything but rainbows and unicorns!" Re Kneipp did the same thing a few months ago. It's so obvious and transparent and it only makes you look even sillier.
I'm not a designer, but it seems to me that it's a pain to move stores. You have to make sure your current customers know where you are going, and try to get them to come. You have to rebundle your items to match the new store. And it seems like most of the time you have to have a sale at the new store.
I wonder if that, on top of the fact that SSD, TLP, PCO, and I'm going to throw SO and SBG in for this, seem to have store owners that don't enforce how much product you release a month makes it easier to stay where you are at then move. Plus, since those are the more well known stores, it makes sense to stay where you can get some visibility, especially with store facebook and blog hops. I haven't paid enough attention, but Oscraps probably qualifies there as well, although their designers seem to move to the other stores.
Honestly, it doesn't seem like very many of the stores have designers moving often, except to the more well known stores.
I think that the requirements are more of a CYA at those stores. If you are selling enough they don't really care if you release. If your sales are low, they can use that to either kick you out or start enforcing it.
Why on earth would she post about Design Cuts and then post in her own name right after. Makes no sense that she would do that. I think some people might be grasping at straws.
76 you're missing the fact that some of us saw her original deleted post and it was a post about Design Cuts. Obviously she is just here enabling her own work because she knows that designers read here. It's really stupid but it did happen. Defending her seems even dumber.
#75... Jessica Sprague just changed the name of her store from JessicaSprague.com to SnapClickSupply.com. No one moved stores, she just changed the name. It was announced in her newsletter.
I was also the OP about the extra percent off at DD. It may not have come from the newsletter but I know that there has definitely been an extra percent off in the final days of the quarterly sale in the past. It was only an extra 5% but I knew I'd used an extra coupon at some point. http://www.designerdigitals.com/digital-scrapbooking/blog/final-days-quarterly-sale-at-designerdigitals/
Have you seen the new Scrappybee store that has just opened? Sadly it already needs a makeover - it looks like a train wreck. I wish the owner/s well, but this is not a good start. As a customer I would want the site to look appealing and invite me in to have a look and buy. http://www.scrappybee.com/beehive/
I am sure it should be suitable for some customers (or designers). Not everyone likes the same thing. This looks like Charly's style (didn't she have one store before with that kind of honeybee theme?) and she is among the designers, so maybe she was asked to do that "store wear"?
Did not one of the CTMs notice the typo on the wordart? It jumped right out at me...http://www.sweetshoppedesigns.com/sweetshoppe/product.php?productid=27982&cat=675&page=1
Have you seen the new Scrappybee store that has just opened? Sadly it already needs a makeover - it looks like a train wreck. I wish the owner/s well, but this is not a good start. As a customer I would want the site to look appealing and invite me in to have a look and buy. --------------------- I'd keep away from there just based on the owner. I'm guessing you don't know who Charly is or what she's done in the past.
Either that or you ARE Charly or someone else on the team trying to drum up traffic for the site.
She has history-- understatement of the year!! It's too long to type in one post, but she's been imposing as different people and selling under different design names. She has also come onto this blog and yell at others when she was outed.
I know nothing about Charly or her multiple personalities. I wandered over to Scrappybee back in May. I was not impressed with the offerings, so I wandered away. I will say the store front reminds me of the hug bug CD's that Provo Craft used to have.
And, when starting a store, perhaps one should stand on the corner and listen to teens, before using the phrase "Honey pot". Or look at urban dictionary.
It is easy enough to search for "Charly" in the search box on the top right of this page. Go back to October 2012 for some information, between posts 800-1400. Happy reading.
94--no they can't make the change but one would think a CTM would have notified the designer immediately so it could be fixed prior to the kit being released. If the kit was fixed afterwards then the CTM should have redone her page or withdrew it from being posted as an example.
An additional reason is this: Yes, spelling mistakes happen. But when I see not only 1, but 2 CTM layouts using the spelling mistake it leads me to believe the designer did not fix that mistake. If it was fixed, then it should be noted, or the preview updated, or something. A mistake like that will keep me from purchasing a kit until there is something that shows the kit was fixed.
Lauren Grier posted on her FB page that it's fixed. Better late than never, I guess, but I can't believe no one in either designers' CT and the SSD CT caught the mistake.
Lauren Grier posted on her FB page that it's fixed. Better late than never, I guess, but I can't believe no one in either designers' CT and the SSD CT caught the mistake. --- Honestly, are you people this petty in your real lives or is this just fun for you on here as a sort of release? I don't know of any designer who would not readily correct a typo or any other mistake when they're made aware. So no one caught it for awhile. Who gives a shit (besides you few?). It was corrected, there was never any question it would be corrected eventually and LG even apologized for it and gave a couple options on how to get the correction. What else do you expect her to do? Or are you just bitching because someone made a mistake somewhere and none of you EVER have?
Better late than never, I guess, but I can't believe no one in either designers' CT and the SSD CT caught the mistake. __ You guess? You think that typo caused someone (besides you) undue grief? If your biggest problem this week is not believing someone didn't catch a stupid typo, I'd say your life is pretty damn easy these days. Lucky you.
A mistake like that will keep me from purchasing a kit until there is something that shows the kit was fixed. _ I hope LG and KCB do not go bankrupt over the fact that you, anonymous you, weren't buying their kit because of the typo.
#98 and #99 you both (unless the same person) seem pretty defensive about it. I don't think anyone is making a big deal about it, as a matter of fact I believe I read a few people who stated that mistakes happen. From what I read and interpreted (as in MY interpretation) was questioning that no one on her personal CT or the store CT caught the mistake and posted pages with the misspelled word art. To me it was a comment on those who are supposed to be helping the designer rather than the designer herself, we all make mistakes yes, but it seemed to have gone through a few people undetected.
To me it just says that LG and KCB and their entire team are all idiots. Seriously nobody caught that before release? There are like 30 people on each of their teams. My god. That's like 60 or more dumb people who can't spell.
Wow 102, aren't you pathetic. Sorry I don't open every wordart (of which there are many since KCB likes to do bunches of them) and check everything. I only pull onto my page what I plan on using. Bright red wordart didn't fit on my page, so I never even looked at it. But please, allow me to apologize from the bottom of my idiotic heart for missing such a HUGE mistake! I am SO dumb! How ever will I go on!!
102-I think we all know who the idiot is around here. Designers make mistakes sometimes, and sometimes the CTMS do find them--sometimes they don't. Big deal!
Maybe 102, but they're on their teams and you're obviously upset because you aren't, so what does that say about you! LOL! --------------- You've hit the nail square on the head with this post. That's the whole answer to this in a nutshell. These people who NEVER make a mistake are just pretty damn jealous of those who did and are on the ct's they'd most assuredly love to be on.
102-I think we all know who the idiot is around here. Designers make mistakes sometimes, and sometimes the CTMS do find them--sometimes they don't. Big deal! ____________ ^^Exactly^^
How ever will I go on!! ___ And you will go on as a KCB ct member which is what these poster(s) truly hate! Unfortunately, for them, apparently, they are not part of the ct!
Wow, some of you on KCB's CT sure are unpleasant. Does KCB know you are conducting yourselves like this on a smack blog? You may not care and think she doesn't care, but she's not exactly anonymous like you are here. I totally agree with 101. No one is accusing the designers here. Stop making a fool of yourselves.
Not taking any side here but does QA usually look at spelling or do they just concentrate on jaggies, resolution, gamut, and other "pixel related" issues?
Stop making a fool of yourselves. --------- I just love when a self-appointed moderator comes on here and attempts to tell people what to do.
The CT members on both KCB and LG's teams were all called "dumb." I think that deserved the response it got. If you don't, tough. It doesn't mean you get to tell them how to respond.
Wow, some of you on KCB's CT sure are unpleasant. Does KCB know you are conducting yourselves like this on a smack blog? ___ What are YOU going to do about it? Go tell on them to KCB..or maybe their mommies? Does YOUR mommy know you're posting on a smack blog and the types of things YOU'RE saying??!! Now doesn't that sound ridiculous? Drama Queen.
Not taking any side here but does QA usually look at spelling or do they just concentrate on jaggies, resolution, gamut, and other "pixel related" issues? __ I'm interested how the QA thing works. Does someone check everything or is it random?
I think it's funny that there were almost no posts at all on this blog for days and days and days . . . . . . . and then suddenly someone says something disapproving about KCB and or her team, and there were 13 posts in one day. All of which seem to be from people (person?) on her team, taunting everyone who isn't on her team. What a bunch of bitchy toddlers.
For the record, I'm not jealous in the slightest so don't even go there. I'm a designer at another store and couldn't give two shits about KCB. I do find myself feeling grateful right now though, that my team is full of mature adults and not one or two people who post multiple times in a day pretending to be separate people just to defend a designer's typo. And that is ALL this is, people, a typo. I would tell everyone to chill out but then I'd get reprimanded for being a self-appointed moderator.
All of which seem to be from people (person?) on her team, taunting everyone who isn't on her team. What a bunch of bitchy toddlers. __________ I find it mildly interesting that you have taken two paragraphs to tell us how much you don't care about KCB and how mature your ct is. I find it even more interesting, however, how you "know" what your ct posts and doesn't post here anonymously. Are you clairvoyant? Truth is you don't know shit who posts here. For the record, telling posters "don't go there" (my fave OVER-used filler phrase, btw), is just inviting people to do precisely that. Don't know much about human nature, do you? Maybe, instead of counting posts here, you should go back to your designing (I have a feeling it needs work; you sound inexperienced and insecure.)
Funny 115, I was just thinking you should take your own advice as I read your stupid know-it-all post. You do realize that you just called someone else out for telling others on this blog what to do ("don't go there"), and then you turned around and told that same person what she should do ("you should go back to your designing" - essentially "shut up and go away").
People are allowed to post whatever they want on this blog, whenever they want, and to whomever they want. No amount of moderating or complaining about what phrases you personally like or don't like is going to change that, 115.
To the CTM that said she didn't open every single word art....the mistake was glaringly obvious on the preview!! If my CT didn't point out a mistake like that to me I'd do some serious weeding out of my team.
See what I did there? I used 2 paragraphs to tell you that, just like 114 did. I know you love it and you can't moderate what I do. --- Are you on some type of drug? You're either under the influence of something and/or an immature idiot.
See what I did there? I used 2 paragraphs to tell you that, just like 114 did. I know you love it and you can't moderate what I do. -- You and 114 are the same person; it's clear. Do you see what you did that proves that?
To the CTM that said she didn't open every single word art....the mistake was glaringly obvious on the preview!! -- Well, she's not as perfect as you are!
I find it interesting that post after post about a "glaring" typo has pissed at least one person off, yet post 94 said a CTM did notice it and let the designer know, but that a CTM can't make that change for the designer.
For someone who claims to know how to read, you've definitely missed that tidbit.
I find it interesting that post after post about a "glaring" typo has pissed at least one person off, yet post 94 said a CTM did notice it and let the designer know, but that a CTM can't make that change for the designer.
For someone who claims to know how to read, you've definitely missed that tidbit.
___ I find it more interesting that you find anything regarding the CORRECTED typo interesting.
Does anyone else think that SSD's designer call reeks of desperation in the face of so many people leaving at one time? I don't recall them ever giving a list of reasons that people would want to apply to SSD in their past calls. It's like they are trying to sell people on wanting to go there whereas in the past it always seemed like it was presented as "this is a rare opportunity for you to join SSD because we almost never have calls" as though people would be stumbling over themselves for the chance. This time they've added so many "benefits" in the bullet points it seems sort of like don't pay attention to the fact that designers are fleeing from our site right now, and apply today!
131 - No. A simple search will show you the only difference between this year's call ad and the one from 2012 is the addition of photos at the top of the ad. Otherwise, it's basically the same ad.
any gossip about scrapnerd? who are the designers?? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- They had all the galleries set up a few days ago but those are gone now. From what I remember, there are a few good, a few decent and some I've never heard of before.
You really believe that you can "prove" that two people posting on this blog are the same person? Go ahead and wow us with this one. -- Not the op but if you can't tell they're the same person then you are a little dense.
Is it ethical when a store owner sends a newsletter in the name of the store - with a competition that isn't related with scrapbooking? ("VOTE FOR ME IN THE BEACHBODY CHALLENGE FOR A CHANCE TO WIN")
Is it ethical when a store owner sends a newsletter in the name of the store - with a competition that isn't related with scrapbooking? ("VOTE FOR ME IN THE BEACHBODY CHALLENGE FOR A CHANCE TO WIN") ------------------------------ Probably not. But I'm curious. Which store owner?
You really believe that you can "prove" that two people posting on this blog are the same person? Go ahead and wow us with this one. -- Not the op but if you can't tell they're the same person then you are a little dense.
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You still didn't explain yourself. Who's the dense one now?
131 - No. A simple search will show you the only difference between this year's call ad and the one from 2012 is the addition of photos at the top of the ad. Otherwise, it's basically the same ad.
I never understand why you all are so nasty to each other when you could be talking about better things. Who would fit in at SSD? And should they be looking for someone who fits or should they try to pick up some artsy/fantasy style designers? In light of all the stores folding lately what makes scrap nerds think it's the right time to start a new store? And what is that green blob supposed to be? Hair or a hat? If we are going to speculate lets do it about digi scrapping and what is happening in the community rather than who here is the biggest idiot. Frankly I could care less about insulting people I don't know. That's what I have inlaws for.
I agree, 146, so let's talk a little about digi scrapping. It's interesting that SSD is letting their designers decide who to take on (at least that's what it sounds like from the call). I don't know if that's what happens at other stores, but at the stores I sell at, we're just told who's gonna join us. Wouldn't some designers not want to take on someone they perceive as *too* talented? How would that benefit the store?
I have heard that they do everything by vote and consensus, which sounds nice in theory, but I imagine can be quite the mess in practice. Where I sell, we don't vote, the store owners makes the calls and we respect them. Personally I prefer it that way. Honestly, I can see a designer not wanting anyone to eclipse them, but you can't be the best store if you don't have a whole team of talented designers. It is a balancing act for sure and that is why I think it is sorta crazy to have everyone involved.
My bigger problem with that is when everyone has a vote, who you know becomes more important then what you know or how talented you are. Re Neipp would be a good example. I'm not bashing him or saying he isn't talented, but with his sister already in the shop and having a vote, I would say his chances of being chosen are better than most. He's left O Scraps, but if you noticed, he had a collab with Jenn Barrette this week. Before Brook became a designer, she did a number of collabs with the SSD designers as well. So are those collabs like a designer test drive or something?
As to the validity of SSD being the top store, I would say they still have a strong customer base. Frankly it seems people either love them or hate them, which is incredibly strange and interesting. But those who love them are fiercely loyal and willing to spend money.
I do think they shot themselves in the foot a bit when they changed their challenge system and I think they would do better if they extended the length of their new release sales, but otherwise, they seem strong to me. I don't think Nicole, who I think is a good designer, choosing to leave and Darcy and Julie retiring is exactly cause to say designers are fleeing from the shop. That seems rather dramatic and overdone, but just like everything and everyone else, there is always room to grow and improve. Can they do better? Sure. Every designer and every shop can do better and I am sure they will be thinking about that as they choose their new designers.
Have P&Co or TLP done a designer call in the last few years?
*So are those collabs like a designer test drive or something?*
Given the amount of collabs between SSD designers each week, I would say it is a valid test drive. But I haven't heard about Re's collab with his sister. If he's left the O because he knew there'd be a call at SSD beforehand, I say that's just unfair to everyone else. Why put up a show of a call if you already have someone you want to take on?
Why put up a show of a call if you already have someone you want to take on?
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You must have missed the Babe call that SSD had a few months ago. They are well-known for already knowing who they're going to take/not take and the calls are often just for show. They even named certain people in their last Babe call when they posted the announcement - people they knew were interested - called on them publicly in front of the entire community - and then didn't pick those people. Such a bunch of nasty human beings.
I don't think Nicole, who I think is a good designer, choosing to leave and Darcy and Julie retiring is exactly cause to say designers are fleeing from the shop.
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Their departures also come on the heels of Lynnette and Mari K leaving in the past few months too. That's 5 pretty popular designers leaving SSD in less than half a year. IMO that's way more than typical, and combined with the level of designer they started adding in that same time, I'd say that things at SSD are not as rosy as they once were.
"Given the amount of collabs between SSD designers each week, I would say it is a valid test drive. But I haven't heard about Re's collab with his sister. If he's left the O because he knew there'd be a call at SSD beforehand, I say that's just unfair to everyone else. Why put up a show of a call if you already have someone you want to take on?" _________________________
They did not do a call for Julianna or for Flergs, nor did they do a call for their last few Babes, (Catgoddess and Two Tiny Turtles), so it is not unheard of for them to just take on who they want, as is their right.
I think this call means they are looking for more designers than they have in mind right now. And yeah, they know who they want. Doesn't every shop have a list of designers they would love to have join them? If not, they are living in a very small world. When you get right down to it, scrapbooking is so subjective and a huge popularity contest on all levels, so if you are looking for fair, I think you are going to be disappointed.
One thing about SSD, especially during Babe Calls, they usually slip in a dark horse, that unexpected and unknown person who everyone moans and complains about because they haven't "done their time." LOL, It's kind of a no-win situation on all levels, but it is rather humorous to watch.
Their departures also come on the heels of Lynnette and Mari K leaving in the past few months too. That's 5 pretty popular designers leaving SSD in less than half a year. IMO that's way more than typical, and combined with the level of designer they started adding in that same time, I'd say that things at SSD are not as rosy as they once were. ______________________
Nothing in the scrapbooking world is as rosy as it once was. I think the thing with Mari was sketchy, but Lynette is still at SSD and seems happy as a Babe with a babe on the way. I don't see any hard feelings there and I can understand her desire to concentrate on her family now.
"The level of designers they started adding." Does that mean you think Julianna and Flergs are less talented that the other SSD designers?
Opps, sorry, I forgot they were the last two. Guess that speaks volumes on my opinion of their designs.
Sugar Babes have been moving to Designer status for a long time at SSD. So many of the current designers started off as Babes and are doing well, so it must work for them. Look for Two Tiny Turtles to move from Babe to Designer with this call. I would be shocked if she didn't.
IMHO, promoting from Babe to Designer has it's good and bad points. Bad because you have brand new, untried designers in a shop that considers itself the best, who may or may not be pulling down the overall standard of the store in the eyes of the customer base. Good because they are nurturing new talent and molding them to fit that SSD standard. Honestly, it is digiland nepotism at it's very finest. Still if they consider themselves a family, they are just doing what any other family would do; taking care of their own.
About Scrap Nerds Seeing that preview, I recognized two designers http://www.digidewi.com/ http://www.mymemories.com/store/display_product_page?id=BGLH-CP-1405-60048
Isn't Two Tiny Turtles primarily a template designer? I know she does make kits too, but they're nowhere near SSD level. She's known for her templates, which are quite good. Bringing on Two Tiny Turtles right after bringing on Zoliofrope would seem to me to be a bad idea given that there are already 2 other template designers in addition to those two - Cindy and Janet. What store needs 4 template designers?
I'm curious about the above comment: "What store needs 4 template designers?" Is there some reason why 4 seems to be too much and why? Stores obviously like to have lots of different kit designers, so why would it be different for template designers?
Are template designers finding it difficult to get into stores because stores only want a couple of template designers?
I've always had the feeling that stores/challenge rules/gallery rules tend to favor kit designers over template designers. I've also heard that some stores have pledged to "protect" their current template designers by not bringing in any more.
Templates are easy to make, even for novice scrapbookers. If you like a template but don't have the money, you can always try to scrap-lift it. The same cannot be said for kits. There are also tons of free templates given out all the time, which is why no store needs more than 4 template designers (which is excessive in my opinion). There isn't enough demand for all of them, and it just spreads the money thin.
Two Tiny Turtles does kits and templates, and while you may not think her kits are at SSD level, if her templates are, why not bring her in and help her develop her kit designs? Brook came in with less behind her than that and they gave her a spot. I think she will be on the team and so will Re.
Yes he was. I chalk his indecision up to his youth. His emotions seem to be right at the surface and all over the place, which I think is so with a lot of teenagers. I think he needs to mature a bit, but that will come with time and age as it did for the rest of us.
Yes he was, but I can't imagine where else he's going. Don't kid yourself, they are having a call, but I know for a fact that they have invited designers to join the team who did not apply. They are inviting but also looking at who applies just in case there is something they overlooked, keeping their options open.
I could not tell much by the designer peek at Scrap Nerds, but honestly, nothing I saw made me think that this store is going to be of a higher caliber than any other store. And paying their admins seems risky and premature. In the beginning just pay them in product like every other store does and if you start raking in the dough then give them an actual salary. Since the admin pay is coming from the money made on the kits, it is actually the designers and not the owner who are paying all those people. I hope they get their money's worth.
Yes he was, but I can't imagine where else he's going. Don't kid yourself, they are having a call, but I know for a fact that they have invited designers to join the team who did not apply. They are inviting but also looking at who applies just in case there is something they overlooked, keeping their options open. ______________
This is not an unusual practice in the business world. It is called recruiting and a ton of people make their living finding the right candidate for the job, whether it is openly advertised or not.
Are you going to spill on who they have invited because I would love to know that. LOL
Yes he was, but I can't imagine where else he's going. Don't kid yourself, they are having a call, but I know for a fact that they have invited designers to join the team who did not apply. They are inviting but also looking at who applies just in case there is something they overlooked, keeping their options open.
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I know of at least 2 people who have been "invited to apply" by SSD in the past few weeks and I believe that they both turned Robin down. It all makes me LMAO because of what SSD did with is Babe call, like someone said above, asking people to apply in a public forum and then not taking both of those people onto the Babe team. Why in the heavens would a designer who had been turned down in the past be thrilled about being asked to apply again now? If SSD is going to issue invites to designers then they need to be real invites. Not "here's a chance to apply again and get raked over the hot coals behind your back" invites.
Re is no where near a "full time designer" as the SSD states they're looking for. I would be shocked if they bring him on. Two Tiny Turtles templates are copies of other templates that have been around longer (like Tinci Designs) and her kits are terrible. I would be less shocked if they bring her on since they brought her on as a babe.
I can't think of a single designer out there that's so talented that they would make anyone else nervous.
Scrap Nerds looks 100% unimpressive based on their sneak peak. Not surprising. Opening a store now when so many larger, in business longer stores are closing says all you need to know about the owner/shop.
I know a designer who got a legitimate offer but turned them down. She didn't want any part of their snobby, childish crap. They must be getting turned down enough that they need to do a call. Apparently they aren't as hot shit as they think they are.
Does anyone here know what an average designer at SSD makes a month these days? And compared to the other big stores? Maybe it's just not worth it to move to SSD anymore.
I think there were several who turned them down which prompted the call because they weren't getting the results they needed by simply inviting designers.
Fyi-they've "invited" no one specifically to apply. If designers are telling people that, they're lying. There's no big secret here. They've advertised a call to any designer interested. I'm sure they have their preferences as to whom they'd like to apply, however, they are NOT soliciting individuals.
Personally, if they have solicited designers, I don't see a big problem with it. I think it is okay to try to recruit the people you want, hold a call to fill all the spots and maybe find a gem you were not aware of and line up they best team you can. All businesses do that. Why should it be any different for digi scrap or SSD.
I also think it is perfectly okay that designers who may or may not have been asked say no. Everyone has to do what makes them happy.
Fyi-they've "invited" no one specifically to apply. If designers are telling people that, they're lying.
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You have no idea what you're talking about. I saw the e-mail that Robin sent to one of them with my own two eyes. I didn't see the other e-mail, but I talked to that person and believe them because I saw the other e-mail. If you're a designer at SSD and don't think this is happening, you might want to checkin with your fearless leader because she's making you all look like morons.
Personally, if they have solicited designers, I don't see a big problem with it.
---------- There's no problem with soliciting designers, but there is a big problem with sending out invites to apply. There's a difference and after what they did with the last Babe call, I cannot think that many designers would be chomping at the bit to apply just to get rejected. If you want a designer, give her a full offer not an invite to apply. Just wow.
let's see a show of hands. who is applying at ssd? :) _ Believe me, several have and will apply. Say what you like, but SSD is still the best place to shop for kits, hands down. They have, by far, the best selection and quality. They also have a huge customer base and following.
#163- Her sister needs to get fixed. I know it's harsh but her babies keep coming out with problems or there are issues with delivery. Hello- It's time to clip the ovaries. Lena is a dramatic cow. I am not donating to her sister. There is a thing called birth control. It's not my responsibility to take care of her bills.
I completely agree, 194. It's not my fault that Tab decided to have yet another kid when she already has 5 and quite a few of them have medical issues. It's not my fault that her husband is taking medical leave for the next however long their kid is in the NICU. There's this thing called being a responsible adult and stopping having kids if you can't afford them. So she can deal with the bills herself and I'll save my money for a legitimate cause.
I completely agree, 194. It's not my fault that Tab decided to have yet another kid when she already has 5 and quite a few of them have medical issues. It's not my fault that her husband is taking medical leave for the next however long their kid is in the NICU. There's this thing called being a responsible adult and stopping having kids if you can't afford them. So she can deal with the bills herself and I'll save my money for a legitimate cause. ------------------------------- Exactly.
I saw the e-mail that Robin sent to one of them with my own two eyes. I _____ I don't believe this.
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Well don't believe her, but I do, because I've heard the same from someone who would have no reason to lie to me about it.
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Honestly 192, nobody gives a shit if you believe it or not. It's fact. I personally have confirmed it with one of the recipients of the offer that was issued by Robin. You cows are so tacky at SSD, inviting people to apply after you've already rejected them in the past. Why would someone put themselves through that again unless they were guaranteed a spot?
It's really obvious some of you have never worked a day in your life.
Not everyone who applies for a job is accepted the first time, or the second... There are almost always more qualified appicants than job openings. It's not unusual at all for an employer to encourage you to keep applying. That in no way means you'll get the job next time. What it does mean is that you're not a complete fuck up and you'd be considered every time you apply.
Recruiting designers and encouraging them to apply is smart. You want to see their applications about why they want to sell at your store, their current earnings, etc to ensure it's a good fit. You don't know that simply by looking at a kit preview.
If someone got recruited tomorrow for a job in the real world, they'd have to fill out an application or give a resume. The company doing the recruiting would also be smart to do a background check and reference check as well before giving the job, too.
Of course Robyn will contact designers she'd like to have in her store. Are you guys stupid or something? That is business. If I was hiring someone, I'd approach those I admire before I put an ad in the paper. That is the way it's done.
Spare us the lecture, please. Equating what SSD is doing to anything that occurs in "the real world" is a spotty analogy at best. The last Babe call was not a figment of anyone's imagination, and it was immature mean girl schoolgirl bull shit at its best. If it makes you feel better about your shop to defend it here then by all means go ahead, but just know that you are not convincing anyone that SSD is anything other than a group of insecure junior high mean girls. I hope designers realize that getting in to a place like that isn't worth what you will put up with once you're on the inside.
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«Oldest ‹Older 1601 – 1800 of 4015 Newer› Newest»Good strategy, by the way. SSD, in my opinion, is the best scrapbooking store now.
I would've agreed with you a year ago. Now, not so much. I think it's PCO.
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Well, Jennifer, PCO is just another mediocre store. In fact, there are many digiscrappers who don't like flat elements and kits that look all the same.
@4 are you sure you don't mean ssd?
Personally I still like some designers at SSD but not as many as I used to. I shop mostly at PCO and TLP. I wouldn't consider PCO mediocre.
So it looks like Sugarplum Paperie is already gone from SSD?
My favorite is SSD but PCO is a good store. I like both. The perfect store would have some designers from SSD and PCO, and maybe TLP.
Not a word from Nicole on it either. Looks like Robin struck again.
Re is leaving Oscraps, I wonder if he's joining Ju at SSD?
Looks like if you don't do what Robin wants (close your store at SHC) then you get axed without warning. I would be running the other way if I sold there. It's not the first time she has done this (Mari) because things didn't go her way. I'm sure she will find a good home at TLP or PCO quickly.
You all just love to stir the pot of drama, don't you? Nicole announced to her CT that she was leaving SSD long before her shop closed. Her departure was planned - by her - not by Robin or anyone else that I am aware of. It might be hard for the SSD faithful to believe because in their brains that is the only digi store that exists on the internet, but maybe she *gasp* chose to leave because she wanted to??? Also for the record I do not believe she was asked to close her store at Sugar Hill. I heard that Robin just asked all of her designers to reevaluate whether SSD was really where they wanted to be and Nicole realized she hated it there so she shocked Robin and have her 2 weeks notice.
"gave" her 2 weeks notice
I agree with @10. I believe Robin is a good boss.
Not a word from Nicole on it either. Looks like Robin struck again.
Re is leaving Oscraps, I wonder if he's joining Ju at SSD?
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Is he? Why?
I agree with @10. I believe Robin is a good boss.
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I'm 10 and I did not say that Robin is a good boss, I just said that she didn't force Nicole out and that her decision to leave SSD was her own and based on her own business reasons. There are a lot of other things on this blog about Robin that are true, such as the one 9 referred to.
Didn't Nicole make a big to do about how SSD was a dream come true and she'd long wished she would be there...all at the same time as she left her own store?
Every designer says that, 15. It's a way to promote their products and the store.
Re announced he is leaving Oscraps and opening somewhere else. No explanation. I suppose that with everything going on at SSD and Ju selling there, it's possible that he's going there.
Why did Nicole "hate" it at SSD? Seems to me she had a pretty good deal there.
Interesting the Re has decided not to retire completely as he was originally spouting here, last month I believe.
Personally, I am not an SSD fan, #2. I think they are so busy pumping out product that the product suffers. A lot of the kits look the same, and a few of the color choices by designers have been interesting. I prefer a kit that looks thought out, rather than one that looks thrown together. Every store has designers with this problem. I think there is good and bad at all of the stores.
I don't have a favorite store, but I do know I haven't spent any money at SSD for awhile.
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Robin might be a b**ch but ain't no stupid to take someone like him. Re is a joke. How many times has he retired yet? Plus he has made a fool out of himself here a while back! I can't stop laughing!
19, he is focusing on his new collection, I guess. I don't know why he is going what is doing. Possibly he has a strategy.
Anyway, I like Robin, but about the color choices I agree with you. SSD is a strong store but they need to watch out. It won't last forever.
I used to adore Flergs but now every single thing in her kits is a recolor of something in a different kit of hers. I guess that's similar to the other SSD designers, but wow, what a disappointment.
I agree, 22. There was a discussion before on this blog about whether designers should have a signature style. I can recognize her kits from afar, but I don't buy them much anymore (unless I can't resist a certain color combo). Same with Red Ivy.
I wonder if the reason that this kit:
http://shabbymissjenn.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451bf0d69e201a3fd049041970b-500wi
was removed from SMJ's store is because she was using the graphics against the designers TOU:
https://www.etsy.com/listing/158481439/fairy-tale-princess-3-digital-clipart?ref=shop_home_active_4
Does she not give a fuck about anyone's TOU's except her own anymore ?
Maybe SMJ doesn't, but it's clear the designer you claim she was violating terms for doesn't give a fuck about Disney's copyright, either. Why not smack her, as well? Someday it might catch up with both of them and put them both out of business. Do you think either of them care? I don't.
I think the perception of SSD being the final wanted destination of designers is antiquated. There are other good stores around and always have been. I think it is good for the market and for designers to have more than two shops to aspire to. Competition is a good thing.
I don't get why digi scrapping has store rivalry that puts some easy coast west coast gangs to shame! I imagine a scene from west side story or something but instead of knives the women would wield paper cutters and glitter to toss in eachothers eyes.
I don't get the feeling that the stores see themselves as fighting rivals. I think that comes from customers who had problems with various stores. I'm on a couple CTs, so I don't know a lot of the behind the scene news, but I have witnessed designers brainstorming about things to make a store better. They might ask the CT what they like at various different places, and even mention a store by name ... but it was more to get ideas about what things customers like and to make their own store better - not to try to take another store down.
27 obviously hasn't been in the back room of SSD
I wonder if the reason that this kit:
http://shabbymissjenn.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451bf0d69e201a3fd049041970b-500wi
was removed from SMJ's store is because she was using the graphics against the designers TOU:
https://www.etsy.com/listing/158481439/fairy-tale-princess-3-digital-clipart?ref=shop_home_active_4
Does she not give a fuck about anyone's TOU's except her own anymore ?
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No, it's clear that she doesn't give a shit at all.
I think POC has a few great designers, just like the lily pad and SSD. Every wonder if sugar plum paperie left because no one was buying her stuff? They've got to have a sales goal at these stores, right?
All stores have good and bad designers. How can a store survive if all of its designers are bad? And some mediocre designers sometimes put out a nice kit, just like great designers sometimes put out a crappy kit. I do agree Sugarplum may not be having great sales. Her kits are small compared to other SSD kits, and they don't really stand out.
What designers do you think should leave SSD? And why? Are there certain ones that don't seem to fit there? What about TLP and P&Co as well?
SPP's kits didn't stand out at all and, like the others have said, they were small compared to others. All three stores (P&CO, TLP and SSD) have designers who do not regularly produce. I wish they'd get more designers who produced more often. I think they're all three on the right track with quality designers..just wish they had more to offer each week.
A new store is coming ... Scrap Nerds. Anyone wants to bet who is putting this off ?
Charley? or Royanna?
I thought Charley and Royanna were the same person.
I might consider applying if I knew who was behind the store, or who was on the admin team. But, since they are being so secretive about it, I think it's probably wise to steer clear.
A couple of designers I CT for received invitation letters to open store there. Apparently the store owner is someone named Katie. There isn't even a last name.
Yes, the store owner of Scrap Nerds seems to be Katie from Katie Creates. She seems to sell at Gingerscraps at the moment...
Sugarplum is at PCO.
What store has a good admin team? or who are good admin people? I'm considering an admin person - combo customer service, ads, newsletter and social media.
It would have probably been better to just leave your comment, 42. It wasn't inflammatory or rude, but now others who didn't see it will think it was.
Thank you 40 for letting me know where Sugarplum Paperie went. I used to follow her at SSD and was a bit miffed she disappeared without a sale-but it looks like at P&Co she is having a 50% off sale-That never would happen at SSD so I'm going to go grab stuff that was on my wish list! sometimes change is good!
Of course there wasn't a sale at SSD- Robin isn't going to let a designer that is leaving for another store advertise that. Most stores won't let you do it. That's why you usually see them leave a store, then a few days later have a grand re-opening sale at their new store.
What are you talking about, 45? Most stores would allow closing sales. There are closing sales/retiring sales all over the place. It's the last chance the store's get to earn money from the designer who's leaving.
I think Scrapbookgraphics and Oscraps are on a par with P&C and Lilypad. I'm surprised to see them not mentioned here. & they are a better bet for those who do art journaling & more "artistic" pages.
I'm hoping Nicole (Sugarplum Paperie) would bring her collabs with Mari Koegelenberg to P&Co. I've been wishlisting them and want to grab them!
I thought Charley and Royanna were the same person.
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naw, Charley and her twins and triplets are all healthy. Royanna has all kinds of diseases/disorders, some of which have been miraculously cured by people praying for her!
"I think Scrapbookgraphics and Oscraps are on a par with P&C and Lilypad. I'm surprised to see them not mentioned here. & they are a better bet for those who do art journaling & more "artistic" pages. "
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I agree. I totally love Scrapbook Graphics and the average designer is top quality
48, I've followed a few other designers when they moved to PCO in recent months and it seems like they always open up with some products in their shop but then keep adding their old products every Tuesday for their weekly feature sale so I have always been able to get almost everything I wanted from my wishlist at their old shop for a good deal if I pay attention.
When was the last time a designer from SSD left to go to another shop? I can only think of Lauren Grier leaving for TLP a few years ago and then coming back. Is the idea that someone left SSD to go somewhere else as surprising as it seems to me? I really can't think of this ever happening before other than Lauren. I always thought that SSD designers stayed there forever unless they retired or stopped designing digital kits.
A new store is coming ... Scrap Nerds. Anyone wants to bet who is putting this off ?
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No. But considering there's a paper scrapbook store called Scrapbook Nerd, and a blogger at ScrapNerd it's not the best idea for a new store. Your customers could quickly end up at the wrong site.
On the store topic: I like that there's competition. I like that I can go to different stores for different types of kits. I don't like the Oscraps store. I'm not sure if it's their template, but it makes a lot of the product appear muted or overly saturated. And I'm not super artsy, so I often end up not visiting Scrapbook Graphics. Hence, why those stores aren't on my radar.
Scraps N Pieces is the same. All of their previews are overly fuzzy for me. I like to be able to see a clear picture before I commit to purchase. After all, if the preview is fuzzy, the product might fuzzy or subpar as well.
I don't have an answer to 52 but it make me curious. Have designers ever left TLP to go to another digital store? Which store have the best retention? I always looked to SSD and TLP as the two top stores because designers from other stores seem to go there but not the other way around. Some people say SO is a top store but I have always seen designers leaving SO to go to other stores like TLP, SSD, SBG. I don't ever see designers from those stores leaving to go to SO though.
I agree with you, 53. But I like Scrapbook Graphics, Tangie is very creative. My favorites at Oscraps are Re and Maya.
54, I agree with you too. SSD and TLP are the best stores right now. PCO is a good store too.
SSD, TLP and PCO are the best stores, imo. I wish though that they'd get more designers who produced more often. A larger, more diversified selection of designs is needed at all three places. Like with anything, there's lots of room for improvement!
Have designers ever left TLP to go to another digital store?
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Lauren Grier is the only one who comes to mind.
Lauren Reid use to jump from store to store like it was nobody's business. She sold at SSD and the Lilypad I think. And some other places. I always liked her stuff, but I had a hard time finding her. I really don't like when designers hop from store to store. And she was a great designer. I think Micheline Martin left SSD for the Lilypad too, or the other way around.
Design Digitals is a mystery to me. They have been around forever but no one seems to go there. They are having a 40% off sale, as far as I know they have never done that, I wonder if sales are just bad everywhere and that's why so many are retiring or trying to move to greener pastures.
Has anyone see the latest Design Cuts Deal? Brush addicts will love it! I got the last font deal and it was pretty good too.
DSP was taken over by My Memories a short while back and it looks like they are closing it down. Yet another site to be swallowed by My Memories. DSP was part of the digiscrap industry for over 10 years. Such a shame!
Designer Digitals does their quarterly sale every... quarter. Usually it's 30% off but often she'll send out a coupon to subscribers for an extra percent off. 40% is new and might be a sign of a struggle. I used to buy a lot of Ali/Cathy Z stuff and I'd just wait for the quarterly sale to pick it up.
Interesting how the Design Cuts deal was mentioned, and then clikchic posted. Her brushes seem to be included in the deal. It doesn't appear to be a bad deal, but I'd rather have fonts.
Lauren Reid and Dani Mogstad both left SSD for other stores as well.
I have been subscribed to the Designer Digitals newsletter for years, I've never noticed a coupon for an extra % off. Their sales have always been 30%, once a couple months ago they did templates 40% off but as far as I know this is the first time they've ever done 40% off the whole store.
Exactly 63, SMH. Who enables themselves on the smack blog? So dumb.
It's the same thing she posted and then deleted earlier.
You mean that earlier she posted the Design Cuts info and then deleted it? Or she posted the same thing under her name again that she had posted earlier? It doesn't really matter, but I'm curious now.
I love when designers accidentally post under their real name, and then delete it, and then feel the need to come back and post under their real name again a few times with non-inflammatory posts just to prove that what they posted the first time wasn't so bad. It's almost like "look at me, I never post anything but rainbows and unicorns!" Re Kneipp did the same thing a few months ago. It's so obvious and transparent and it only makes you look even sillier.
She posted about the design cuts deal and then deleted it. Now she's back posting it again.
What a moron.
69, but I read what Re posted here and he didn't lie about what he said. That's why I defended him.
About Design Cuts, what is it?
I'm not a designer, but it seems to me that it's a pain to move stores. You have to make sure your current customers know where you are going, and try to get them to come. You have to rebundle your items to match the new store. And it seems like most of the time you have to have a sale at the new store.
I wonder if that, on top of the fact that SSD, TLP, PCO, and I'm going to throw SO and SBG in for this, seem to have store owners that don't enforce how much product you release a month makes it easier to stay where you are at then move. Plus, since those are the more well known stores, it makes sense to stay where you can get some visibility, especially with store facebook and blog hops. I haven't paid enough attention, but Oscraps probably qualifies there as well, although their designers seem to move to the other stores.
Honestly, it doesn't seem like very many of the stores have designers moving often, except to the more well known stores.
I think that the requirements are more of a CYA at those stores. If you are selling enough they don't really care if you release. If your sales are low, they can use that to either kick you out or start enforcing it.
Dani M moved to this store http://www.snapclicksupply.com/
Looks like some of the digital refugees from the pea place landed here, too.
Why on earth would she post about Design Cuts and then post in her own name right after. Makes no sense that she would do that. I think some people might be grasping at straws.
76 you're missing the fact that some of us saw her original deleted post and it was a post about Design Cuts. Obviously she is just here enabling her own work because she knows that designers read here. It's really stupid but it did happen. Defending her seems even dumber.
#75... Jessica Sprague just changed the name of her store from JessicaSprague.com to SnapClickSupply.com. No one moved stores, she just changed the name. It was announced in her newsletter.
I was also the OP about the extra percent off at DD. It may not have come from the newsletter but I know that there has definitely been an extra percent off in the final days of the quarterly sale in the past. It was only an extra 5% but I knew I'd used an extra coupon at some point. http://www.designerdigitals.com/digital-scrapbooking/blog/final-days-quarterly-sale-at-designerdigitals/
Scrap Art Studio is closing as of May 30.
yawn
Have you seen the new Scrappybee store that has just opened? Sadly it already needs a makeover - it looks like a train wreck. I wish the owner/s well, but this is not a good start. As a customer I would want the site to look appealing and invite me in to have a look and buy.
http://www.scrappybee.com/beehive/
I am sure it should be suitable for some customers (or designers). Not everyone likes the same thing. This looks like Charly's style (didn't she have one store before with that kind of honeybee theme?) and she is among the designers, so maybe she was asked to do that "store wear"?
Did not one of the CTMs notice the typo on the wordart? It jumped right out at me...http://www.sweetshoppedesigns.com/sweetshoppe/product.php?productid=27982&cat=675&page=1
Charly IS the owner of ScrappyBee.
Have you seen the new Scrappybee store that has just opened? Sadly it already needs a makeover - it looks like a train wreck. I wish the owner/s well, but this is not a good start. As a customer I would want the site to look appealing and invite me in to have a look and buy.
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I'd keep away from there just based on the owner. I'm guessing you don't know who Charly is or what she's done in the past.
Either that or you ARE Charly or someone else on the team trying to drum up traffic for the site.
85, care to elaborate?
I'm 81 and sorry to disappoint you but I'm not Charly and I've never heard of her. I take it she has history??
She has history-- understatement of the year!! It's too long to type in one post, but she's been imposing as different people and selling under different design names. She has also come onto this blog and yell at others when she was outed.
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At one point, she was designing as 3 separate "people". She claimed she was a triplet.
I know nothing about Charly or her multiple personalities. I wandered over to Scrappybee back in May. I was not impressed with the offerings, so I wandered away. I will say the store front reminds me of the hug bug CD's that Provo Craft used to have.
And, when starting a store, perhaps one should stand on the corner and listen to teens, before using the phrase "Honey pot". Or look at urban dictionary.
It is easy enough to search for "Charly" in the search box on the top right of this page.
Go back to October 2012 for some information, between posts 800-1400. Happy reading.
83 - What typo? I'm looking for it and can't find it.
it's the red one, top left corner "worth remebering" instead of remembering. Honest mistake though, geez.
83 - Yes one of them did, but a CT can't make the change for the designer.
94--no they can't make the change but one would think a CTM would have notified the designer immediately so it could be fixed prior to the kit being released. If the kit was fixed afterwards then the CTM should have redone her page or withdrew it from being posted as an example.
I agree with 95.
An additional reason is this: Yes, spelling mistakes happen. But when I see not only 1, but 2 CTM layouts using the spelling mistake it leads me to believe the designer did not fix that mistake. If it was fixed, then it should be noted, or the preview updated, or something. A mistake like that will keep me from purchasing a kit until there is something that shows the kit was fixed.
Lauren Grier posted on her FB page that it's fixed. Better late than never, I guess, but I can't believe no one in either designers' CT and the SSD CT caught the mistake.
Lauren Grier posted on her FB page that it's fixed. Better late than never, I guess, but I can't believe no one in either designers' CT and the SSD CT caught the mistake.
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Honestly, are you people this petty in your real lives or is this just fun for you on here as a sort of release? I don't know of any designer who would not readily correct a typo or any other mistake when they're made aware. So no one caught it for awhile. Who gives a shit (besides you few?). It was corrected, there was never any question it would be corrected eventually and LG even apologized for it and gave a couple options on how to get the correction. What else do you expect her to do? Or are you just bitching because someone made a mistake somewhere and none of you EVER have?
Better late than never, I guess, but I can't believe no one in either designers' CT and the SSD CT caught the mistake.
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You guess? You think that typo caused someone (besides you) undue grief? If your biggest problem this week is not believing someone didn't catch a stupid typo, I'd say your life is pretty damn easy these days. Lucky you.
A mistake like that will keep me from purchasing a kit until there is something that shows the kit was fixed.
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I hope LG and KCB do not go bankrupt over the fact that you, anonymous you, weren't buying their kit because of the typo.
#98 and #99 you both (unless the same person) seem pretty defensive about it. I don't think anyone is making a big deal about it, as a matter of fact I believe I read a few people who stated that mistakes happen. From what I read and interpreted (as in MY interpretation) was questioning that no one on her personal CT or the store CT caught the mistake and posted pages with the misspelled word art. To me it was a comment on those who are supposed to be helping the designer rather than the designer herself, we all make mistakes yes, but it seemed to have gone through a few people undetected.
To me it just says that LG and KCB and their entire team are all idiots. Seriously nobody caught that before release? There are like 30 people on each of their teams. My god. That's like 60 or more dumb people who can't spell.
Maybe 102, but they're on their teams and you're obviously upset because you aren't, so what does that say about you! LOL!
Wow 102, aren't you pathetic. Sorry I don't open every wordart (of which there are many since KCB likes to do bunches of them) and check everything. I only pull onto my page what I plan on using. Bright red wordart didn't fit on my page, so I never even looked at it. But please, allow me to apologize from the bottom of my idiotic heart for missing such a HUGE mistake! I am SO dumb! How ever will I go on!!
102-I think we all know who the idiot is around here. Designers make mistakes sometimes, and sometimes the CTMS do find them--sometimes they don't. Big deal!
Maybe 102, but they're on their teams and you're obviously upset because you aren't, so what does that say about you! LOL!
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You've hit the nail square on the head with this post. That's the whole answer to this in a nutshell. These people who NEVER make a mistake are just pretty damn jealous of those who did and are on the ct's they'd most assuredly love to be on.
102-I think we all know who the idiot is around here. Designers make mistakes sometimes, and sometimes the CTMS do find them--sometimes they don't. Big deal!
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^^Exactly^^
How ever will I go on!!
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And you will go on as a KCB ct member which is what these poster(s) truly hate! Unfortunately, for them, apparently, they are not part of the ct!
Wow, some of you on KCB's CT sure are unpleasant. Does KCB know you are conducting yourselves like this on a smack blog? You may not care and think she doesn't care, but she's not exactly anonymous like you are here. I totally agree with 101. No one is accusing the designers here. Stop making a fool of yourselves.
Not taking any side here but does QA usually look at spelling or do they just concentrate on jaggies, resolution, gamut, and other "pixel related" issues?
Stop making a fool of yourselves.
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I just love when a self-appointed moderator comes on here and attempts to tell people what to do.
The CT members on both KCB and LG's teams were all called "dumb." I think that deserved the response it got. If you don't, tough. It doesn't mean you get to tell them how to respond.
Wow, some of you on KCB's CT sure are unpleasant. Does KCB know you are conducting yourselves like this on a smack blog?
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What are YOU going to do about it? Go tell on them to KCB..or maybe their mommies? Does YOUR mommy know you're posting on a smack blog and the types of things YOU'RE saying??!! Now doesn't that sound ridiculous? Drama Queen.
Not taking any side here but does QA usually look at spelling or do they just concentrate on jaggies, resolution, gamut, and other "pixel related" issues?
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I'm interested how the QA thing works. Does someone check everything or is it random?
I think it's funny that there were almost no posts at all on this blog for days and days and days . . . . . . . and then suddenly someone says something disapproving about KCB and or her team, and there were 13 posts in one day. All of which seem to be from people (person?) on her team, taunting everyone who isn't on her team. What a bunch of bitchy toddlers.
For the record, I'm not jealous in the slightest so don't even go there. I'm a designer at another store and couldn't give two shits about KCB. I do find myself feeling grateful right now though, that my team is full of mature adults and not one or two people who post multiple times in a day pretending to be separate people just to defend a designer's typo. And that is ALL this is, people, a typo. I would tell everyone to chill out but then I'd get reprimanded for being a self-appointed moderator.
All of which seem to be from people (person?) on her team, taunting everyone who isn't on her team. What a bunch of bitchy toddlers.
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I find it mildly interesting that you have taken two paragraphs to tell us how much you don't care about KCB and how mature your ct is. I find it even more interesting, however, how you "know" what your ct posts and doesn't post here anonymously. Are you clairvoyant? Truth is you don't know shit who posts here. For the record, telling posters "don't go there" (my fave OVER-used filler phrase, btw), is just inviting people to do precisely that. Don't know much about human nature, do you? Maybe, instead of counting posts here, you should go back to your designing (I have a feeling it needs work; you sound inexperienced and insecure.)
Funny 115, I was just thinking you should take your own advice as I read your stupid know-it-all post. You do realize that you just called someone else out for telling others on this blog what to do ("don't go there"), and then you turned around and told that same person what she should do ("you should go back to your designing" - essentially "shut up and go away").
People are allowed to post whatever they want on this blog, whenever they want, and to whomever they want. No amount of moderating or complaining about what phrases you personally like or don't like is going to change that, 115.
See what I did there? I used 2 paragraphs to tell you that, just like 114 did. I know you love it and you can't moderate what I do.
LOL ^^^.
To the CTM that said she didn't open every single word art....the mistake was glaringly obvious on the preview!! If my CT didn't point out a mistake like that to me I'd do some serious weeding out of my team.
See what I did there? I used 2 paragraphs to tell you that, just like 114 did. I know you love it and you can't moderate what I do.
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Are you on some type of drug? You're either under the influence of something and/or an immature idiot.
See what I did there? I used 2 paragraphs to tell you that, just like 114 did. I know you love it and you can't moderate what I do.
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You and 114 are the same person; it's clear. Do you see what you did that proves that?
To the CTM that said she didn't open every single word art....the mistake was glaringly obvious on the preview!!
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Well, she's not as perfect as you are!
I find it interesting that post after post about a "glaring" typo has pissed at least one person off, yet post 94 said a CTM did notice it and let the designer know, but that a CTM can't make that change for the designer.
For someone who claims to know how to read, you've definitely missed that tidbit.
I find it interesting that post after post about a "glaring" typo has pissed at least one person off, yet post 94 said a CTM did notice it and let the designer know, but that a CTM can't make that change for the designer.
For someone who claims to know how to read, you've definitely missed that tidbit.
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I find it more interesting that you find anything regarding the CORRECTED typo interesting.
124 - It's called sarcasm.
SSD is holding a designer call.
^^^ this ought to be interesting!!
Who do you think would be a good fit at SSD?
You and 114 are the same person; it's clear. Do you see what you did that proves that?
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You really believe that you can "prove" that two people posting on this blog are the same person? Go ahead and wow us with this one.
any gossip about scrapnerd? who are the designers??
Does anyone else think that SSD's designer call reeks of desperation in the face of so many people leaving at one time? I don't recall them ever giving a list of reasons that people would want to apply to SSD in their past calls. It's like they are trying to sell people on wanting to go there whereas in the past it always seemed like it was presented as "this is a rare opportunity for you to join SSD because we almost never have calls" as though people would be stumbling over themselves for the chance. This time they've added so many "benefits" in the bullet points it seems sort of like don't pay attention to the fact that designers are fleeing from our site right now, and apply today!
131 - No. A simple search will show you the only difference between this year's call ad and the one from 2012 is the addition of photos at the top of the ad. Otherwise, it's basically the same ad.
The only thing that reeks of desperation is you.
any gossip about scrapnerd? who are the designers??
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They had all the galleries set up a few days ago but those are gone now. From what I remember, there are a few good, a few decent and some I've never heard of before.
Any thoughts on the June Digital Files? I like a few designers but I haven't heard of 2 of them.
You really believe that you can "prove" that two people posting on this blog are the same person? Go ahead and wow us with this one.
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Not the op but if you can't tell they're the same person then you are a little dense.
The only thing that reeks of desperation is you.
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No kidding.
Is it ethical when a store owner sends a newsletter in the name of the store - with a competition that isn't related with scrapbooking? ("VOTE FOR ME IN THE BEACHBODY CHALLENGE FOR A CHANCE TO WIN")
Is it ethical when a store owner sends a newsletter in the name of the store - with a competition that isn't related with scrapbooking? ("VOTE FOR ME IN THE BEACHBODY CHALLENGE FOR A CHANCE TO WIN")
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Probably not. But I'm curious. Which store owner?
Oh let me guess.... it's that gal that was always posting selfies of her boobs......
Scrap Nerds has posted a sneak peek of their designers. I don't recognize all of them... but those templates in the middle look really familiar.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1505969992959081&set=a.1498483763707704.1073741828.1498009833755097&type=1
#138 Digiscrapboutique
#138 - When people do that, I go vote for someone else, annoys me to no end.
You really believe that you can "prove" that two people posting on this blog are the same person? Go ahead and wow us with this one.
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Not the op but if you can't tell they're the same person then you are a little dense.
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You still didn't explain yourself. Who's the dense one now?
#138 - When people do that, I go vote for someone else, annoys me to no end.
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LOL agree
131 - No. A simple search will show you the only difference between this year's call ad and the one from 2012 is the addition of photos at the top of the ad. Otherwise, it's basically the same ad.
The only thing that reeks of desperation is you.
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OK Traci
I never understand why you all are so nasty to each other when you could be talking about better things. Who would fit in at SSD? And should they be looking for someone who fits or should they try to pick up some artsy/fantasy style designers? In light of all the stores folding lately what makes scrap nerds think it's the right time to start a new store? And what is that green blob supposed to be? Hair or a hat? If we are going to speculate lets do it about digi scrapping and what is happening in the community rather than who here is the biggest idiot. Frankly I could care less about insulting people I don't know. That's what I have inlaws for.
I agree, 146, so let's talk a little about digi scrapping. It's interesting that SSD is letting their designers decide who to take on (at least that's what it sounds like from the call). I don't know if that's what happens at other stores, but at the stores I sell at, we're just told who's gonna join us. Wouldn't some designers not want to take on someone they perceive as *too* talented? How would that benefit the store?
New gallery at Scrap Orchard
I have heard that they do everything by vote and consensus, which sounds nice in theory, but I imagine can be quite the mess in practice. Where I sell, we don't vote, the store owners makes the calls and we respect them. Personally I prefer it that way. Honestly, I can see a designer not wanting anyone to eclipse them, but you can't be the best store if you don't have a whole team of talented designers. It is a balancing act for sure and that is why I think it is sorta crazy to have everyone involved.
My bigger problem with that is when everyone has a vote, who you know becomes more important then what you know or how talented you are. Re Neipp would be a good example. I'm not bashing him or saying he isn't talented, but with his sister already in the shop and having a vote, I would say his chances of being chosen are better than most. He's left O Scraps, but if you noticed, he had a collab with Jenn Barrette this week. Before Brook became a designer, she did a number of collabs with the SSD designers as well. So are those collabs like a designer test drive or something?
As to the validity of SSD being the top store, I would say they still have a strong customer base. Frankly it seems people either love them or hate them, which is incredibly strange and interesting. But those who love them are fiercely loyal and willing to spend money.
I do think they shot themselves in the foot a bit when they changed their challenge system and I think they would do better if they extended the length of their new release sales, but otherwise, they seem strong to me. I don't think Nicole, who I think is a good designer, choosing to leave and Darcy and Julie retiring is exactly cause to say designers are fleeing from the shop. That seems rather dramatic and overdone, but just like everything and everyone else, there is always room to grow and improve. Can they do better? Sure. Every designer and every shop can do better and I am sure they will be thinking about that as they choose their new designers.
Have P&Co or TLP done a designer call in the last few years?
*So are those collabs like a designer test drive or something?*
Given the amount of collabs between SSD designers each week, I would say it is a valid test drive. But I haven't heard about Re's collab with his sister. If he's left the O because he knew there'd be a call at SSD beforehand, I say that's just unfair to everyone else. Why put up a show of a call if you already have someone you want to take on?
Why put up a show of a call if you already have someone you want to take on?
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You must have missed the Babe call that SSD had a few months ago. They are well-known for already knowing who they're going to take/not take and the calls are often just for show. They even named certain people in their last Babe call when they posted the announcement - people they knew were interested - called on them publicly in front of the entire community - and then didn't pick those people. Such a bunch of nasty human beings.
I don't think Nicole, who I think is a good designer, choosing to leave and Darcy and Julie retiring is exactly cause to say designers are fleeing from the shop.
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Their departures also come on the heels of Lynnette and Mari K leaving in the past few months too. That's 5 pretty popular designers leaving SSD in less than half a year. IMO that's way more than typical, and combined with the level of designer they started adding in that same time, I'd say that things at SSD are not as rosy as they once were.
"Given the amount of collabs between SSD designers each week, I would say it is a valid test drive. But I haven't heard about Re's collab with his sister. If he's left the O because he knew there'd be a call at SSD beforehand, I say that's just unfair to everyone else. Why put up a show of a call if you already have someone you want to take on?"
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They did not do a call for Julianna or for Flergs, nor did they do a call for their last few Babes, (Catgoddess and Two Tiny Turtles), so it is not unheard of for them to just take on who they want, as is their right.
I think this call means they are looking for more designers than they have in mind right now. And yeah, they know who they want. Doesn't every shop have a list of designers they would love to have join them? If not, they are living in a very small world. When you get right down to it, scrapbooking is so subjective and a huge popularity contest on all levels, so if you are looking for fair, I think you are going to be disappointed.
One thing about SSD, especially during Babe Calls, they usually slip in a dark horse, that unexpected and unknown person who everyone moans and complains about because they haven't "done their time." LOL, It's kind of a no-win situation on all levels, but it is rather humorous to watch.
Their departures also come on the heels of Lynnette and Mari K leaving in the past few months too. That's 5 pretty popular designers leaving SSD in less than half a year. IMO that's way more than typical, and combined with the level of designer they started adding in that same time, I'd say that things at SSD are not as rosy as they once were.
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Nothing in the scrapbooking world is as rosy as it once was. I think the thing with Mari was sketchy, but Lynette is still at SSD and seems happy as a Babe with a babe on the way. I don't see any hard feelings there and I can understand her desire to concentrate on her family now.
"The level of designers they started adding." Does that mean you think Julianna and Flergs are less talented that the other SSD designers?
154, I think the op means Brook and Zoliofrope.
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Opps, sorry, I forgot they were the last two. Guess that speaks volumes on my opinion of their designs.
Sugar Babes have been moving to Designer status for a long time at SSD. So many of the current designers started off as Babes and are doing well, so it must work for them. Look for Two Tiny Turtles to move from Babe to Designer with this call. I would be shocked if she didn't.
IMHO, promoting from Babe to Designer has it's good and bad points. Bad because you have brand new, untried designers in a shop that considers itself the best, who may or may not be pulling down the overall standard of the store in the eyes of the customer base. Good because they are nurturing new talent and molding them to fit that SSD standard. Honestly, it is digiland nepotism at it's very finest. Still if they consider themselves a family, they are just doing what any other family would do; taking care of their own.
About Scrap Nerds
Seeing that preview, I recognized two designers
http://www.digidewi.com/
http://www.mymemories.com/store/display_product_page?id=BGLH-CP-1405-60048
One of the Scrap Nerds designers looks to be AK Designs (second row, second from left). The template design is her style.
Isn't Two Tiny Turtles primarily a template designer? I know she does make kits too, but they're nowhere near SSD level. She's known for her templates, which are quite good. Bringing on Two Tiny Turtles right after bringing on Zoliofrope would seem to me to be a bad idea given that there are already 2 other template designers in addition to those two - Cindy and Janet. What store needs 4 template designers?
I'm curious about the above comment: "What store needs 4 template designers?" Is there some reason why 4 seems to be too much and why? Stores obviously like to have lots of different kit designers, so why would it be different for template designers?
Are template designers finding it difficult to get into stores because stores only want a couple of template designers?
I've always had the feeling that stores/challenge rules/gallery rules tend to favor kit designers over template designers. I've also heard that some stores have pledged to "protect" their current template designers by not bringing in any more.
Templates are easy to make, even for novice scrapbookers. If you like a template but don't have the money, you can always try to scrap-lift it. The same cannot be said for kits. There are also tons of free templates given out all the time, which is why no store needs more than 4 template designers (which is excessive in my opinion). There isn't enough demand for all of them, and it just spreads the money thin.
Lena is campaigning for donations for her sister again. smh.
#138 - When people do that, I go vote for someone else, annoys me to no end.
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What a jerk.
Two Tiny Turtles does kits and templates, and while you may not think her kits are at SSD level, if her templates are, why not bring her in and help her develop her kit designs? Brook came in with less behind her than that and they gave her a spot. I think she will be on the team and so will Re.
really would be disappointed if Re joins the SSD team. Wasn't he "retiring" last month?
Why would that disappoint you?
Yes he was. I chalk his indecision up to his youth. His emotions seem to be right at the surface and all over the place, which I think is so with a lot of teenagers. I think he needs to mature a bit, but that will come with time and age as it did for the rest of us.
Yes he was, but I can't imagine where else he's going. Don't kid yourself, they are having a call, but I know for a fact that they have invited designers to join the team who did not apply. They are inviting but also looking at who applies just in case there is something they overlooked, keeping their options open.
I could not tell much by the designer peek at Scrap Nerds, but honestly, nothing I saw made me think that this store is going to be of a higher caliber than any other store. And paying their admins seems risky and premature. In the beginning just pay them in product like every other store does and if you start raking in the dough then give them an actual salary. Since the admin pay is coming from the money made on the kits, it is actually the designers and not the owner who are paying all those people. I hope they get their money's worth.
Yes he was, but I can't imagine where else he's going. Don't kid yourself, they are having a call, but I know for a fact that they have invited designers to join the team who did not apply. They are inviting but also looking at who applies just in case there is something they overlooked, keeping their options open.
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This is not an unusual practice in the business world. It is called recruiting and a ton of people make their living finding the right candidate for the job, whether it is openly advertised or not.
Are you going to spill on who they have invited because I would love to know that. LOL
Yes he was, but I can't imagine where else he's going. Don't kid yourself, they are having a call, but I know for a fact that they have invited designers to join the team who did not apply. They are inviting but also looking at who applies just in case there is something they overlooked, keeping their options open.
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I know of at least 2 people who have been "invited to apply" by SSD in the past few weeks and I believe that they both turned Robin down. It all makes me LMAO because of what SSD did with is Babe call, like someone said above, asking people to apply in a public forum and then not taking both of those people onto the Babe team. Why in the heavens would a designer who had been turned down in the past be thrilled about being asked to apply again now? If SSD is going to issue invites to designers then they need to be real invites. Not "here's a chance to apply again and get raked over the hot coals behind your back" invites.
Re is no where near a "full time designer" as the SSD states they're looking for. I would be shocked if they bring him on. Two Tiny Turtles templates are copies of other templates that have been around longer (like Tinci Designs) and her kits are terrible. I would be less shocked if they bring her on since they brought her on as a babe.
I can't think of a single designer out there that's so talented that they would make anyone else nervous.
Scrap Nerds looks 100% unimpressive based on their sneak peak. Not surprising. Opening a store now when so many larger, in business longer stores are closing says all you need to know about the owner/shop.
"Invited to apply" is not cool. I agree, real invites or let the process you have advertised work as intended.
I know a designer who got a legitimate offer but turned them down. She didn't want any part of their snobby, childish crap. They must be getting turned down enough that they need to do a call. Apparently they aren't as hot shit as they think they are.
Does anyone here know what an average designer at SSD makes a month these days? And compared to the other big stores? Maybe it's just not worth it to move to SSD anymore.
That's what I and a lot of others said about PCO when it opened 173, but they seem to be doing just fine.
I know of a couple of designers who have been approached too.
I think there were several who turned them down which prompted the call because they weren't getting the results they needed by simply inviting designers.
Fyi-they've "invited" no one specifically to apply. If designers are telling people that, they're lying. There's no big secret here. They've advertised a call to any designer interested. I'm sure they have their preferences as to whom they'd like to apply, however, they are NOT soliciting individuals.
Yes they are.
So who has been invited?
179, you don't know what you are talking about. 169, 172 and 177 are right, designers have been approached individually to apply.
181, like if we were going to tell you who we are...
Personally, if they have solicited designers, I don't see a big problem with it. I think it is okay to try to recruit the people you want, hold a call to fill all the spots and maybe find a gem you were not aware of and line up they best team you can. All businesses do that. Why should it be any different for digi scrap or SSD.
I also think it is perfectly okay that designers who may or may not have been asked say no. Everyone has to do what makes them happy.
Fyi-they've "invited" no one specifically to apply. If designers are telling people that, they're lying.
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You have no idea what you're talking about. I saw the e-mail that Robin sent to one of them with my own two eyes. I didn't see the other e-mail, but I talked to that person and believe them because I saw the other e-mail. If you're a designer at SSD and don't think this is happening, you might want to checkin with your fearless leader because she's making you all look like morons.
I love that multiple people are turning down SSD. Oh how times have changed.
Personally, if they have solicited designers, I don't see a big problem with it.
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There's no problem with soliciting designers, but there is a big problem with sending out invites to apply. There's a difference and after what they did with the last Babe call, I cannot think that many designers would be chomping at the bit to apply just to get rejected. If you want a designer, give her a full offer not an invite to apply. Just wow.
I agree. And don't send your minions here to say that it's not happening.
let's see a show of hands. who is applying at ssd? :)
I love that multiple people are turning down SSD. Oh how times have changed.
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You sound kinda bitter; Did THEY turn YOU down?
let's see a show of hands. who is applying at ssd? :)
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Believe me, several have and will apply. Say what you like, but SSD is still the best place to shop for kits, hands down. They have, by far, the best selection and quality. They also have a huge customer base and following.
I saw the e-mail that Robin sent to one of them with my own two eyes. I
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I don't believe this.
Well don't believe her, but I do, because I've heard the same from someone who would have no reason to lie to me about it.
#163- Her sister needs to get fixed. I know it's harsh but her babies keep coming out with problems or there are issues with delivery. Hello- It's time to clip the ovaries. Lena is a dramatic cow. I am not donating to her sister. There is a thing called birth control. It's not my responsibility to take care of her bills.
I'm going to apply to SSD just for fun and to see what happens.
I completely agree, 194. It's not my fault that Tab decided to have yet another kid when she already has 5 and quite a few of them have medical issues. It's not my fault that her husband is taking medical leave for the next however long their kid is in the NICU. There's this thing called being a responsible adult and stopping having kids if you can't afford them. So she can deal with the bills herself and I'll save my money for a legitimate cause.
I completely agree, 194. It's not my fault that Tab decided to have yet another kid when she already has 5 and quite a few of them have medical issues. It's not my fault that her husband is taking medical leave for the next however long their kid is in the NICU. There's this thing called being a responsible adult and stopping having kids if you can't afford them. So she can deal with the bills herself and I'll save my money for a legitimate cause.
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Exactly.
I saw the e-mail that Robin sent to one of them with my own two eyes. I
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I don't believe this.
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Well don't believe her, but I do, because I've heard the same from someone who would have no reason to lie to me about it.
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Honestly 192, nobody gives a shit if you believe it or not. It's fact. I personally have confirmed it with one of the recipients of the offer that was issued by Robin. You cows are so tacky at SSD, inviting people to apply after you've already rejected them in the past. Why would someone put themselves through that again unless they were guaranteed a spot?
It's really obvious some of you have never worked a day in your life.
Not everyone who applies for a job is accepted the first time, or the second... There are almost always more qualified appicants than job openings. It's not unusual at all for an employer to encourage you to keep applying. That in no way means you'll get the job next time. What it does mean is that you're not a complete fuck up and you'd be considered every time you apply.
Recruiting designers and encouraging them to apply is smart. You want to see their applications about why they want to sell at your store, their current earnings, etc to ensure it's a good fit. You don't know that simply by looking at a kit preview.
If someone got recruited tomorrow for a job in the real world, they'd have to fill out an application or give a resume. The company doing the recruiting would also be smart to do a background check and reference check as well before giving the job, too.
Of course Robyn will contact designers she'd like to have in her store. Are you guys stupid or something? That is business. If I was hiring someone, I'd approach those I admire before I put an ad in the paper. That is the way it's done.
Spare us the lecture, please. Equating what SSD is doing to anything that occurs in "the real world" is a spotty analogy at best. The last Babe call was not a figment of anyone's imagination, and it was immature mean girl schoolgirl bull shit at its best. If it makes you feel better about your shop to defend it here then by all means go ahead, but just know that you are not convincing anyone that SSD is anything other than a group of insecure junior high mean girls. I hope designers realize that getting in to a place like that isn't worth what you will put up with once you're on the inside.
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