The DST Blog Train is out and it seems those who commented can't find much that they like in it. What blog trains do you like, and why do you like them?
About the digi scrap parade, when Gennifer joined the group and added the p&co designers to the group a few of the SSD designers started leaving, not very many, maybe 5 or so. Robin had nothing to do with it and isn't even a part of the group b/c it is a designer run thing and so she isn't even involved. As for SO, I was told by a friend at SO that Kami asked her designers not to participate and a few of them were quite pissed because they don't understand why Kami would keep them from doing a blog train, espeically since they were always allowed to do the DST blog train before the parade came around. Oh and I know that Gennifer volunteered to leave the group so that her designers could stay in the parade because she didn't want her mistakes from the past to affect her designers and their livelihoods.
200-I don't think it's meant to benefit anybody except the person that writes it. Maybe it gives them some sort of power rush or something. I'll never figure it out. - Ditto this.
they don't understand why Kami would keep them from doing a blog train -- other than pissing her off, can she keep them from doing a blog train for any reason?
I don't know Traci at all (although we are Facebook friends) but honestly, we are in a recession, a lot of people are struggling, calling someone a loser because of that is LOW!
It's quite obvious that someone here has a personal grudge with her. My guess is jealousy.
Attacking someone's kids and husband isn't something one does because they don't like her designs.
mean personal stuff TOTALLY irrelevant to design capabilities, kit quality, and the whole idea behind DIGIsmack. I didn't know it was Designer/CT ugly kids, ugly teeth, husband's job, health or illness and other rude and awful things. I remember a certain poster back when poor Eva passed , they actually said that Eva made it up for attention. Really? WHO SAYS THAT?! I didn't even know her and I wouldn't say anything like that, let alone if I did!
I think, but I don't know for sure ... that Kami asked them not to do the parade because SO was doing their own thing that was planned prior to the parade during the same time. That would make sense. I guess we will see come August if any SO designers are in that parade.
I wonder if anybody even cares who is or who isn't participating in the parade. Everybody here just says how ugly and stupid freebies are anyhow. It's just another thing for them to crab about or smack. I wouldn't blame any of the designers for not participating.
Everybody here just says how ugly and stupid freebies are anyhow. It's just another thing for them to crab about or smack. I wouldn't blame any of the designers for not participating. -------
Yeah, because everybody here represents the entire of the digi community. Designers who don't participate or give up because of a few people on a smack blog need to give up anyway. The real world isn't all rainbows and sunshine.
Everybody here just says how ugly and stupid freebies are anyhow. - ^^This is not true.^^ I know it to be a falsehood because I have given several good opinions regarding freebies/blog trains, etc. on this blog as have many others. I agree with #19. If designers can't take the criticism, they need to find something else to do.
I for one loved the last Digi parade offerings. Im looking forward to the next one. I generally don't hunt down freebies as I believe the amount of effort in producing an item should be rewarded.
Oh ... some of the designers/store owners who participate in the Digiscrap Parade are being elitist and snobby? I'm so surprised.
It's like High School all over again. I would feel sorry for Gennifer except that I think she's strong enough to actually not give a fuck. Jul 5, 2013, 2:19:00 AM -------------------
IKR?! It's hilarious that some here think we should sorry for Gennifer because she is being blacklisted due to her known association with the smack blog.
The group that is blacklisting her is the same group that set up the Digiscrap Parade to be so exclusionary in the first place. It's really not a surprise that they would force someone out of the group if they don't like her, for one reason or another. They should have called it The Cliquey Bitch Parade, if you ask me. That's what it has been, from the outset.
The "group" that set up Digiscrap Parade was Wishing Well Creations from TDC and Girl Boy Girl (who didn't do anything). Laura (WWC) has nothing to do with TDF to be able to encourage "blacklisting". As one of the 'Cliquey Bitch Parade', I will say that at first I didn't like the concept as it seemed like a Nah-Nah We are better than the rest type of thing. But it was a chance for some great free advertising so I went along. SO did not participate in the first one as it had already planned their own train for iNSD.
I was one that did not like the idea of P&Co joining the group. Why? Not because of Gennifer, but because the concept of the group in the first place was to keep it smallish. 5 stores. and 5 stores only. If all 5 were part of the train the first time there would have been well over 100 participants. To me, that isn't small - - but then to add in another shop? THAT is what bothered me.
I have no idea about this thing with people leaving because of Gennifer. It must have been done "behind" the scenes, and I do NOT check the groups listing to see who may or may not be a part of it. There was nothing said "in the open" about a problem, nor was ANYONE asked about it publicly. Then again Laura (WWC) is great friends with some of the SSD people, so perhaps this is where that came from. No idea.
Anyone who is still upset about the "Cliquey Bitch Parade" obviously has a problem. It's not that its an 'honor' to be included - but it takes a bit of talent and experience to get into one of the included stores in the first place - and if you can't make it into one, then work harder until you can. There is a reason why other shops weren't included - quality being the first. That quality includes color choices for palettes and cohesive products, not just a bunch of recolored CU tossed in. It took me a few years to reach the level that I am at now, and I "earned" my wings. I make a decent living at this - but it took time, learning and a lot of patience to get here.
Really? You think I have a 2x4 up my ass? I appreciate humor and can be quite goofy, but anything that is cliquey or overly done(like the goat avatars) I find stupid.
Anyone who is still upset about the "Cliquey Bitch Parade" obviously has a problem. It's not that its an 'honor' to be included - but it takes a bit of talent and experience to get into one of the included stores in the first place - and if you can't make it into one, then work harder until you can. There is a reason why other shops weren't included - quality being the first. ------------------------------ This argument is the whole reason why anyone would have a problem with it. First of all, it is a broad assumption that everyone who sells in those stores has better quality products than those that don't. SOME of the designers in those stores, in fact, don't put out the best stuff. And, it is also true that there are some great designers in the business who put out fantastic products, but don't sell in one of those stores.
The assumption that someone doesn't have good products because they haven't "made it" into one of those stores is also really rude and offensive. There are plenty of people who CHOOSE not to pursue a spot in one of those stores for a variety of reasons. This mentality, that you are better than others because you happen to sell in one of those five stores, is chief among the reasons why I will happily stay right where I am. And it's also the reason why you are all a bunch of cliquey bitches.
In SOME people's mind, SBG is a top store therefore should have been included if the criteria was "quality". I am not saying that it is the case, but you can see that everyone might have a different opinion of what is a top store, or who is a top designer. So in the end, no matter what criteria would be used, it will sound cliquey because someone will disagree. What is the solution? No idea. Maybe there isn't one.
24 said: The group that is blacklisting her is the same group that set up the Digiscrap Parade to be so exclusionary in the first place. It's really not a surprise that they would force someone out of the group if they don't like her, for one reason or another. They should have called it The Cliquey Bitch Parade, if you ask me. That's what it has been, from the outset.
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You have no idea what you're talking about, and your argument makes you look like an idiot. The group that set up the Digiscrap Parade is NOT the group that is blacklisting Gennifer and Pixels and Co because the Parade actually let them join. How exactly is that blacklisting? Use your brain and THINK. Furthermore when some of the SSD designers complained, and yes it was the SSD designers, I thought it was maturely handled by Laura and Jen who run the Parade, especially since Laura is friends with so many of the people who complained and threatened mutiny. But she didn't bow to them just due to being friends, she and Jen did all of the handling behind the scenes to avoid raising a stink, evidenced by the fact that it didn't even get a mention on this blog even while it was happening, and they contacted people, got everyone's side, and took action without turning it into a specticle. I thought that the fact that they refused to kick out the Pixels and Co designers was fair because it's not their fault what their store owner once did, and letting Gennifer leave the group quietly without making a big announcement or turning it all highschool was classy.
I was one that did not like the idea of P&Co joining the group. Why? Not because of Gennifer, but because the concept of the group in the first place was to keep it smallish. 5 stores. and 5 stores only. If all 5 were part of the train the first time there would have been well over 100 participants. To me, that isn't small - - but then to add in another shop? THAT is what bothered me.
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I thought that the whole reason they added Pixels and Co was because SO didn't participate and Kami told her designers not to in the future and so they were replacing SO with Pixels and Co?
Anyone who is still upset about the "Cliquey Bitch Parade" obviously has a problem. It's not that its an 'honor' to be included - but it takes a bit of talent and experience to get into one of the included stores in the first place - and if you can't make it into one, then work harder until you can. There is a reason why other shops weren't included - quality being the first. ---------------- Bullshit. There are plenty of wonderful designers who do not belong to those stores. There are also plenty who do that don't have any extraordinary talent and are quite mediocre. For you to make a statement like this shows your ignorance and immaturity.
In SOME people's mind, SBG is a top store therefore should have been included if the criteria was "quality". I am not saying that it is the case, but you can see that everyone might have a different opinion of what is a top store, or who is a top designer. So in the end, no matter what criteria would be used, it will sound cliquey because someone will disagree. What is the solution? No idea. Maybe there isn't one. ---------- There are a couple designers at SBG who knock the socks off most of them in the digiscrap parade.
The assumption that someone doesn't have good products because they haven't "made it" into one of those stores is also really rude and offensive. -------------------------- It's also simply not true. Anyone who shops around at all knows it.
I thought that the whole reason they added Pixels and Co was because SO didn't participate and Kami told her designers not to in the future and so they were replacing SO with Pixels and Co? --- So then the 5 stores who are in the DSP now are SSD, P&co, TDC, SM and TLP? Is that right? SO is gone?
...and if you can't make it into one, then work harder until you can ---------------- I was wondering if you realize after seeing this printed how ridiculous it sounds?
There are a couple designers at SBG who knock the socks off most of them in the digiscrap parade. ______________ Uh..yeah, like Lorie Davidson and Rosey Posey for starters. Some of the designers in the DigiScrap Parade aren't talented enough to shine these ladies' shoes let alone design in the same league. There are also designers at P & Co. and OScraps (to name a couple other stores) who have talented, experienced designers. Their work and track record speak for themselves.
"It's not that its an 'honor' to be included." ____________ This is the only smart thing you put in that paragraph of a post. While I like lots of the designers who participate, there's a TON who don't who are just as talented as the best who do contribute to the Digiscrap Parade.
If it were going to be the 'top' designers, it would have to be by application, and not by store. There are good designers at not-so-great stores, and crappy designers at great stores. I can't even imagine the shit storm something like THAT would be, so I guess this is as good as it's getting.
Lets just all agree that it's better than the DST parade and leave it at that.
Lets just all agree that it's better than the DST parade and leave it at that. --------- Maybe so, but see how much controversy that brought. The DSP is "good but elitist" and the DST is "bad but all inclusive". I guess it depends on which end you are to decide which one you like.
Anyone who is still upset about the "Cliquey Bitch Parade" obviously has a problem. It's not that its an 'honor' to be included - but it takes a bit of talent and experience to get into one of the included stores in the first place - and if you can't make it into one, then work harder until you can. There is a reason why other shops weren't included - quality being the first. ---------
Oh give me a break! I know from experience that some people get into certain stores because of who they are and who they know, irrespective of quality. You may have earned your 'wings', but there are quite a few designers who haven't.
About recoloring... In a kid-themed kit: - 180 general use items, like ribbons, flowers, frames etc in 8 different colors. - 21 themed elements, in 7 different colors. - 6 kids, all unique, doing/holding different things. The problem? It has 3 African kids, 1 blonde, and 2 brown haired! I'm sure all of her costumers buy the kit for the themed elements; no one needs 65 flowers (which btw are the same in all the kits of her that I have bought so far). Since she wants to offer us such a variety of colors, why didn't she recolor the kids too? I can scrap a page even if the buttons aren't in the right color for my photo, but the African kids will be completely out of place!
I've lost my mojo. I'm just sick of making kits, tired of advertising, tired of thinking up new backgrounds, etc. But the money is good - not great but good. I need a break. A long break.
But it's not. - Are you saying the DST train was better than the DigiScrap Parade? If you are, you have no idea what you are talking about regarding quality. Period.
I've lost my mojo. I'm just sick of making kits, tired of advertising, tired of thinking up new backgrounds, etc. But the money is good - not great but good. I need a break. A long break. -- Why not try something completely out of the ordinary (for you)? Maybe that will motivate you some.
Not for me. Neither is better than the other. ----- I wonder what your scrapped pages look like if you truly feel this? Also, who are your favorite designers?
Are you saying the DST train was better than the DigiScrap Parade? If you are, you have no idea what you are talking about regarding quality. Period. ------
I wonder what your scrapped pages look like if you truly feel this? Also, who are your favorite designers? -----
The problem with the Parade was that it was the same old, same old. I never said it wasn't quality, it was just boring as hell. I really wanted to like it but I was bored with it. That's why neither was better for me.
I'm not sure how not liking the Parade has anything to do with my pages.
ROFL at the idea that DST's blog train is even usable, let alone comparing it to the parade. I don't care if the Parde contributions are original (whatever that is) or not, at least they are something that could actually be scrapped with. And expecting more than that for, well, nothing... expect much?
ROFL at the idea that DST's blog train is even usable, let alone comparing it to the parade. I don't care if the Parde contributions are original (whatever that is) or not, at least they are something that could actually be scrapped with. And expecting more than that for, well, nothing... expect much? -----agree------
No, I don't expect, much! Really, what a moronic expression.
I never said that the DST train was useable, did I? No. I didn't. The reading between the lines that goes on around here is astounding!
I never said I needed original, just not boring. Yes, I said same old, same old, but even the same old can be interesting. This was not. A different color palette would have made all the difference.
Good for you that you all liked it and thought it was fantastic, I didn't.
Most blog trains can be hit or miss. Some will like the colors others won't. Some will like the theme, others won't. It is like a buffet: take what you like as nobody should expect to like everything. If you like one kit, then it is one free kit you got. Then, wait for the next train.
I left a comment here earlier today and it did get posted and was displayed earlier for a while. Now it's gone; totally missing. Has this happened to anyone else on this blog recently? Does the blog owner have the ability to delete comments completely? I remember back when we used the old smack blog (the DST HOF one) and there was a period of time during which comments were deleting themselves like mad. Anyone remember that? Any chance it's happening again? I'm mad my comment from earlier is gone now, and it wasn't even inflammatory in any way.
What do people think about a designer leaving a top end store, selling at another top end store and then going back to the original store?
Yes, I'm asking because La Grier just did this, but she's not the only one that had done it. There's been a few in the past, not many, but a few and so far in the past I can't even remember their names.
Wasn't La Grier at TLP for almost 12 months, if not longer? So it's probably not a personalty clash, but sales?
What do people think about a designer leaving a top end store, selling at another top end store and then going back to the original store?
Yes, I'm asking because La Grier just did this, but she's not the only one that had done it. There's been a few in the past, not many, but a few and so far in the past I can't even remember their names.
Wasn't La Grier at TLP for almost 12 months, if not longer? So it's probably not a personalty clash, but sales?
-------- My guess would be first she had a drop in sales at TLP and second, she missed her buds. If her sales had been really good though, no way would she have gone back.
What do people think about a designer leaving a top end store, selling at another top end store and then going back to the original store? –------------- I don't really care where they go as long as I like their stuff and they don't set outlandish prices. I shop more at SSD so I'm fine with her there as I do like some of her work.
61 again, just wanted to say for the record that my missing comment used to be no.36. Now it's gone and a new no.36 appears in its place. ??????? -------------------------- OMG! What do you think happened?
Personally I am shocked that SSD took her back. The way I remember it, she got really sick and was in the hospital and SSD did a giant collab to raise money to help her out. Not long after that, she deserted them and went to TLP. Why in the world would they take her back after that slap in the face???
Calm down, 70, I am sure she's trying to figure out if it was blogger that ate her comment or if the owner of this blog is policing things and deleting comments. Less drama from you, too, would be nice.
A few days ago someone was complaining on here about how overpriced Pixels and Co is, and something in SO's new releases this weekend just reminded me of something I think is worse by far: every time Wendy releases one of these editions of Great Escape I just can't even believe how much she charges. $8 for 6 papers and some elements? SIX papers? That's it? I get that it's an add-on to the original kit, but she's charging the price of a really big kit for something that is barely a mini. http://scraporchard.com/market/Great-Escape-Arizona-kit-digital-scrapbook.html
The way I remember it, she got really sick and was in the hospital and SSD did a giant collab to raise money to help her out. Not long after that, she deserted them and went to TLP. ---------
Designers from all over contributed to that collab, including quite a few from TLP.
A few days ago someone was complaining on here about how overpriced Pixels and Co is, and something in SO's new releases this weekend just reminded me of something I think is worse by far: every time Wendy releases one of these editions of Great Escape I just can't even believe how much she charges. $8 for 6 papers and some elements? SIX papers? That's it? I get that it's an add-on to the original kit, but she's charging the price of a really big kit for something that is barely a mini. http://scraporchard.com/market/Great-Escape-Arizona-kit-digital-scrapbook.html ---- You're paying for "71 unique elements", not the papers. The papers pretty basic and primary colors. Either pull them out of stash or make them.
But yeah, really expensive and I won't be buying it.
Calm down, 70, I am sure she's trying to figure out if it was blogger that ate her comment or if the owner of this blog is policing things and deleting comments. Less drama from you, too, would be nice. --------- I think the op was being sarcastic not dramatic, just FYI. Maybe it's you who's a bit of a drama queen?
I hate this blog and am ashamed that I read and post here, yet here I am. What is wrong with me? and YOU? -------------------------- There's nothing wrong w/me but if I hated the blog I damn sure wouldn't read and post here. There's plenty of things in life that one has to do. Being here is not one of them.
I wouldn't want people to think I'm monitoring posts, because I'm not, I don't have time to. But I just checked the spam folder and quite a few posts have gone in there the past few days.
I can mark them as "not spam", which means we'll have some duplicate posts, and this will also throw the numbers out, or I can just leave them in the spam folder where they are. Or I can delete them. I do delete genuine spam, but I have never deleted any proper comments.
The assumption that someone doesn't have good products because they haven't "made it" into one of those stores is also really rude and offensive. There are plenty of people who CHOOSE not to pursue a spot in one of those stores for a variety of reasons. This mentality, that you are better than others because you happen to sell in one of those five stores, is chief among the reasons why I will happily stay right where I am. And it's also the reason why you are all a bunch of cliquey bitches.
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Yep, this.
I've talked to some really fantastic designers who have been invited to some of those 'top tier' stores and declined because they don't want to be exclusive (no, not myself, I can freely admit I'm not ready for those stores yet, but after some interesting discussion I am not sure I'd say yes if the time ever came that I got the invite, either).
I also just finished sorting a bunch of kits I got from Scrap Orchard on iNSD and I can say that many of them have very good previews for very mediocre kits.
I always love reading some of the posts here. Do you really know the top tier stores or are they what you think are top tier because they are so familiar. If you don't know the income of any given store then you don't know if there are stores out there that really do well and should be considered a top tier store even though they aren't a named store thrown out there all the time.
ITA with 93: changing the word on a license plate WA is not unique. The license plate WA itself is unique but the multiple words are not. Kind of like how changing the color on a flower does not make it unique. The flower in ONE color is unique--the rest are simply recolors.
And as for 73's original comment: Yup. HATE how much she charges. I wait for a big sale--I'd never buy that stuff at full or Fresh Fruit price.
96 said "I always love reading some of the posts here. Do you really know the top tier stores or are they what you think are top tier because they are so familiar. If you don't know the income of any given store then you don't know if there are stores out there that really do well and should be considered a top tier store even though they aren't a named store thrown out there all the time." --- I don't think a top tier store is the one that makes the most money. I think a top tier store is one that has the most QUALITY designers and products. Kind of like how an H&M store probably sell more in a day than a Burberry store sells in a week, but the quality at Burberry is better. But that's my definition of Top Tier. I'm sure some people disagree.
A top tier store makes a lot money and has great quality products from majority (preferably all) of its designers and sells many of those products.
#98 - You may want to look-up the sales figures for Burberry and H&M before using them as examples. Burberry blows H&M out of the water several times over. Top tier retail stores make lots of money selling a lot of products.
I think 96's point is that there are stores functioning as well as or better than the ones thrown around here as 'top tier'. Stores with talented designers, quality control, and dedicated drama-free owners. They exist but they aren't on your radar because there isn't any drama to discuss.
Someone asked earlier if anyone was doing Iron Scrapper. I did it the past few years but not this year. Even a laptop as a first prize won't convince me to use that stupid pin-board. I'm done with SO unless they go back to a regular gallery.
102 - It's impossible to know unless you know each of the typically named top 3 (SSD, TLP, SO) stores sales figures and the stores you have in mind, but for whatever reason refuse to name.
What I find difficult to believe is that you possess all of the facts to make such an assertion.
You can't base your opinion on just a few designers sales figures. There are always top sellers in most stores who make a good living. There are also designers in those same stores who barely make above the quota. It's the mix that determines whether a store is "top tier" or not. The more high grossing designers a store have, the more it deserves the term "top tier" IMO.
If a store doesn't have a minimum sales quota, I doubt very highly that it's a contender for top tier status. A top store is going to know its break even point and only house designers who make above that point. That's just common business sense.
103 - I'm the same as you. There is barely any product in that store I want. I guess if I wanted templates I'd be all set as they have some good ones, but I kinda need some kits to go with those templates and SO is severely lacking when it comes to those. Unless I wanted to shop with Bella Gypsy, which I don't.
90 - Digismacker - nobody else has piped in yet, so I will throw my opinion in the ring: I'd love to read the comments that went into the spam folder. Please add them here?
86 and 88, I am 84 and I KNOW she was quoting the kit description. Don't talk to me like I am an idiot. I am still allowed to be astounded that someone - whether the designer, a poster here, anyone at all - would think that 6 papers and some word art bits are $8 worth of product.
The sad part is that she must sell a shit load of them because she keeps creating them and pricing them that way. No designer with a brain would continue doing that if it wasn't working for her and I know that. Nevertheless I am going to firmly remain in the camp who believes that it is crazy.
I'd rather not - it's better to let them fly under the smack-blog radar.
Of course that will prompt you to say that if I can't prove it I must be lying. That's fine with me you can believe that. ------------------------ You're absolutely right. I do believe that. You have no way to know what you assert therefore you are full of it. One of the first signs of a liar is someone who makes general, broad-sweeping statements that are impossible to confirm. The notion that you have this vast knowledge which you are keeping under wraps to save these stores from the evils of a smack blog is preposterous.
86 and 88, I am 84 and I KNOW she was quoting the kit description. Don't talk to me like I am an idiot. -- Maybe you should be more clear in what you post. You addressed the poster so we thought that's what you meant. If you don't want to be talked to like an idiot don't post like one. Dummy.
The sad part is that she must sell a shit load of them because she keeps creating them and pricing them that way. No designer with a brain would continue doing that if it wasn't working for her and I know that. Nevertheless I am going to firmly remain in the camp who believes that it is crazy. -- You firmly remain there, by golly. Thanks for sharing.
I'd rather not - it's better to let them fly under the smack-blog radar. -------
If they are as good as you claim and as drama free as you claim, they will continue to remain under the smack radar. There have been designers and stores mentioned on here that have never been smacked because there's nothing to smack.
I'd rather not - it's better to let them fly under the smack-blog radar.
Of course that will prompt you to say that if I can't prove it I must be lying. That's fine with me you can believe that. ------------------------ You're absolutely right. I do believe that. You have no way to know what you assert therefore you are full of it. One of the first signs of a liar is someone who makes general, broad-sweeping statements that are impossible to confirm. The notion that you have this vast knowledge which you are keeping under wraps to save these stores from the evils of a smack blog is preposterous.
^^^ Vast knowledge? Hardly. I said I knew some stores that are under your radar that are doing extremely well and have high-quality designs. I don't need to prove it to you to make it true. Go ahead and believe that you are so smart and with it that you know the ONLY successful stores in digiland.
Well, actually you did say you had the knowledge-see below-it's a quote from you.
"I think 96's point is that there are stores functioning as well as or better than the ones thrown around here as 'top tier'."
The truth is you have no idea what stores are functioning as well as or better than the ones mentioned. You're just throwing a bunch of words around and have no idea what you're talking about. You're a liar who now is trying to back pedal.
Well, actually you did say you had the knowledge-see below-it's a quote from you.
"I think 96's point is that there are stores functioning as well as or better than the ones thrown around here as 'top tier'."
The truth is you have no idea what stores are functioning as well as or better than the ones mentioned. You're just throwing a bunch of words around and have no idea what you're talking about. You're a liar who now is trying to back pedal.
^^^ I didn't deny saying that - hardly backpedaling to say 'I said I knew some stores that are under your radar that are doing extremely well and have high-quality design' ... I just don't think that's the same as 'vast knowledge.' You're very skilled at reading into things.
You said that you knew that certain stores were doing as well or better as the aforementioned three. You do not know this at all. I'm not reading anything into it. It's what you said. You're definitely back pedaling now since you know you lied. A halfway intelligent person would drop it once they've been called on it. You, as typical liars do, keep trying to justify the fact that you spoke about something of which you have no knowledge.
"there are stores functioning as well as or better than the ones thrown around here as 'top tier'." ------ You have no idea if this is true. Therefore, you lied. Is that simple enough for you? It's absolutely impossible for you to know this. You now are saying something different from the above. Whether I am crazy or not doesn't negate the fact that you lied.
How on earth is re-stating my original position in a subsequent post the same thing as back-pedaling? ____________________ I have no dog in this fight but that's not what you were doing at all. Let's be honest.
You, as typical liars do, keep trying to justify the fact that you spoke about something of which you have no knowledge. ------------------ One of the first signs of a liar is someone who makes general, broad-sweeping statements that are impossible to confirm.
#106 ... I'll copy and paste them here so that they don't throw the numbers out:
Lauren Grier leaving TLP-last day is 06-30. It's a "secret" where she's going next. ^^^^ any idea? on June 2013
If that is true about TDD and P&Co, my guess would be the fact that Gennifer owned this blog at one point and some people in the industry don't like it. I would assume TDD definitely doesn't like it, even though they obviously all read here and likely post. TDD isn't worth the time or effort anyway. Telling P&Co they can't work to give a kit away to another site who will make a bunch of $ off it while you get "advertising" and nothing else and constantly asked to contribute freebies for the rest of your life for TDD's benefit isn't exactly a punishment. on July 2013
I was very surprised by some of my design acquaintances' opinions about her being in the Parade. - If THEY didn't want to be associated with Gennifer in the Parade then THEY should have dropped out. Who were the designers who threw a fit? THEY need to be blackballed. on July 2013
Only cause her husband is a total loser and cannot provide for his family. -- Has he never worked? Or is he just out of work now? on July 2013
#190 so you're trying to justify your gossipy behavior by saying someone else started it? Give me a break. If you're going to be a snake, at least own it. on July 2013
#193- You're arguing with an anonymous poster? You're as stupid as poster - Not to mention your stupidity for calling out an anonymous poster like he or she really gives a shit what you anonymously have to say. on July 2013
200-I don't think it's meant to benefit anybody except the person that writes it. Maybe it gives them some sort of power rush or something. I'll never figure it out. - Ditto. on July 2013
I was one that did not like the idea of P&Co joining the group. Why? Not because of Gennifer, but because the concept of the group in the first place was to keep it smallish. 5 stores. and 5 stores only. If all 5 were part of the train the first time there would have been well over 100 participants. To me, that isn't small - - but then to add in another shop? THAT is what bothered me. --- Interesting, I didn't think that was the concept of the group in the first place, keeping it smallish. I thought the concept of the group in the first place was to keep out the rif raff and let designers participate in a blog train that doesn't have some of the shit that we're seeing now from the DST blog train, where anyone and their neighbor can sign up. Exclusive? You betcha. And before everyone who reads that gets their panties in a twist, by rif raff I am not talking about other talented designers who put out good quality products that are attractive and do not happen to sell in one of the 5 on July 2013
Just because a designer leaves one shop does not mean there was a riff of any kind between owner and designer. Most designers I know leave to increase their exposure, and pick up more followers in a new store, hoping the followers they already have will follow them to the new store. Some do and some don't. So, it's not unusual for a designer to return to store #1 at all. Lots of them have done that. on July 2013
As I said before, most had been reposted at the time i found them in the spam folder. I think that all of them have been reposted now though, so I'll just leave these ones in the spam folder where they are.
Just because a designer leaves one shop does not mean there was a riff of any kind between owner and designer. Most designers I know leave to increase their exposure, and pick up more followers in a new store, hoping the followers they already have will follow them to the new store. Some do and some don't. So, it's not unusual for a designer to return to store #1 at all. Lots of them have done that. on July 2013 --- Who has returned to their initial store after leaving it and selling somewhere else?
How on earth is re-stating my original position in a subsequent post the same thing as back-pedaling? ____________________ I have no dog in this fight but that's not what you were doing at all. Let's be honest. - This person does not know what being honest is. Worse yet, I believe she's kinda simple-minded. That's a bad combo-stupid and dishonest.
This person does not know what being honest is. Worse yet, I believe she's kinda simple-minded. That's a bad combo-stupid and dishonest. ----------------- One of the first signs of a liar is someone who makes general, broad-sweeping statements that are impossible to confirm.
Just saw JenC call : does she do something by herself ?? http://digiscrapaddicts.com/forum/showthread.php?37862-Jen-C-Designs-Team-Call!-July-15th-Deadline!
I'm a designer bu i can't imagine to have girls to do EVERYHING for me !!
126 - I don't know Jen but although it does sound like asking a lot in the digiworld, that is what a business owner would do in the real world, so maybe she is treating her designing as a business? Didn't we often read complaints that many designers are not taking their "business" seriously, and are just hobbyist hoping to make money? Now, if Jen does it like a business, she is smacked? And I am not Jen, I don't buy from Jen, and she is not even my friend on FB.
There are people who will gladly do all of those jobs for designers. Some of them may not be terribly good scrappers style wise but still would love the kits. It is a business to anyone making $ at it. And she must be to be staying at two stores with earning limits.
The truth is you have no idea what stores are functioning as well as or better than the ones mentioned. You're just throwing a bunch of words around and have no idea what you're talking about. You're a liar who now is trying to back pedal. ---- You have no way of proving that the OP does NOT know what they are talking about, so does that make YOU a liar too? I BELIEVE that the OP's initial statement is true and was just HER opinion. I do not have first hand knowledge but I do BELIEVE it is true. That does not make me a liar. It indicates that I have an opinion. Lighten up.
126, if she wanted her CT to do ALL those things, then I'd agree with you. But she has broken up the tasks into different jobs, and each comes with full access to her store (which I think is a fair trade). Personally, JenC's designs aren't my taste, but if a designer I loved had a call like that, I'd definitely apply to the position(s) that fit me.
On a semi-related rant: I haaaaate it when a designer has a CT Call and their ad just says "I'll post new products a few weeks in advance. Just make 3 or 4 LOs per month, posted at 4 galleries. That's it!" ...and then you join the CT and they also want you to post on the blog, write kit descriptions, make freebies, comment in their gallery AND the store's forum, etc etc. Oh, and they give you new releases with maybe a day's notice before release. Lame. I'd much rather have a designer break up all the different aspects of the business and divvy them out to different people. Then she can use her time to design. More design time should equal more products, which means I get more stuff to work with. And she makes more money. If a designer treats her business like a business (and not a hobby), then she should delegate work that doesn't need to be done by her. .
On a semi-related rant: I haaaaate it when a designer has a CT Call and their ad just says "I'll post new products a few weeks in advance. Just make 3 or 4 LOs per month, posted at 4 galleries. That's it!" ...and then you join the CT and they also want you to post on the blog, write kit descriptions, make freebies, comment in their gallery AND the store's forum, etc etc. Oh, and they give you new releases with maybe a day's notice before release. Lame. I'd much rather have a designer break up all the different aspects of the business and divvy them out to different people. Then she can use her time to design. More design time should equal more products, which means I get more stuff to work with. And she makes more money. If a designer treats her business like a business (and not a hobby), then she should delegate work that doesn't need to be done by her. ------------------- Exactly!
131 you bring up Deanna, but I will say she has been on my team for quite some time and she is one of my best CT members. She is first to help with anything and has layouts done quickly. So you really can't judge because they are on many teams.
JenC's call (wanting 3 blog posters) has me thinking, I absolutely HATE reading posts on designers blogs that are not written by the designer. Am I unique in that view? I don't want to read a designer's blog to see what one of her team has to say, because they're obviously just doing advertising. I want to know what the designer has to say.
I don't mind reading sometimes if by other people. I do like tutorials and I'm always searching for new or different ways to do things.
What blogs/designers are good for tutorials? I've found a couple from Sahlin, and Suzy Q. Any others? Are the scrappers that post them decent scrappers?
JenC's call (wanting 3 blog posters) has me thinking, I absolutely HATE reading posts on designers blogs that are not written by the designer. Am I unique in that view? I don't want to read a designer's blog to see what one of her team has to say, because they're obviously just doing advertising. I want to know what the designer has to say.
What's more crazy is that one of her CT members is on 20 teams (judging by her [DeannaJ] signature. -------
Why is that crazy? Half of those designers don't produce regularly, the remaining half only produce semi regularly, which leaves about 5 active designers. Besides, Deanna is retired and has the time. How do I know this? Because she has explained this numerous times when people ask her how can she cope with so many teams.
What's more crazy is that one of her CT members is on 20 teams (judging by her [DeannaJ] signature. --- Mind your own business (a novel concept). If Deanna does well and the designers like her what do you care?
You have no way of proving that the OP does NOT know what they are talking about, so does that make YOU a liar too? I BELIEVE that the OP's initial statement is true and was just HER opinion. I do not have first hand knowledge but I do BELIEVE it is true. That does not make me a liar. It indicates that I have an opinion. Lighten up. - Not the op but it is impossible for that person to know what she says she knows. It's also absurd what her reasoning was to not divulge what those stores are. She stated it as fact not opinion. Yes, that makes her a liar. Maybe you need to get your reading comprehension in check and refrain from telling adults to "lighten up." Last I looked, there were no forum monitors here.
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Nope. An opinion is usually stated as "I think"; a factual statement is usually stated as "I know". She said "I know", thereby indicating that it's a fact and she has actual knowledge.
I BELIEVE that the OP's initial statement is true and was just HER opinion. -----------
Nope. An opinion is usually stated as "I think"; a factual statement is usually stated as "I know". She said "I know", thereby indicating that it's a fact and she has actual knowledge. --- Correct. She, of course, does not/ cannot have actual knowledge and was called on it. Once she was, she started to back pedal and justify her lying. A lie is a lie, plain and simple.
It's not the first time there's been discussion about stores doing well selling digital scrapbooking supplies that aren't talked about on the Smack Blog. I remember some numbers that came out from Two Peas that sounded really great (yes, I know they closed they didn't say that digital wasn't selling well, just that they were going in a different direction.) An acquaintance of min sold there was said she was extremely happy with the sales.
I know I found digital scrapbooking by accident via a craft site I was on that sold fonts and clip art. In the forums people shared projects and I saw some digital scrapbooking so I tried it. I'd guess that side made really good money.
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It's not the first time there's been discussion about stores doing well selling digital scrapbooking supplies that aren't talked about on the Smack Blog. I remember some numbers that came out from Two Peas that sounded really great (yes, I know they closed they didn't say that digital wasn't selling well, just that they were going in a different direction.) An acquaintance of min sold there was said she was extremely happy with the sales. - I think you're missing the point but really who cares.
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Interesting, I didn't think that was the concept of the group in the first place, keeping it smallish. I thought the concept of the group in the first place was to keep out the rif raff and let designers participate in a blog train that doesn't have some of the shit that we're seeing now from the DST blog train, where anyone and their neighbor can sign up. Exclusive? You betcha. And before everyone who reads that gets their panties in a twist, by rif raff I am not talking about other talented designers who put out good quality products that are attractive and do not happen to sell in one of the 5 on July 2013 _____
JenC's call (wanting 3 blog posters) has me thinking, I absolutely HATE reading posts on designers blogs that are not written by the designer. Am I unique in that view? I don't want to read a designer's blog to see what one of her team has to say, because they're obviously just doing advertising. I want to know what the designer has to say. _____
What's more crazy is that one of her CT members is on 20 teams (judging by her [DeannaJ] signature. -------
Why is that crazy? Half of those designers don't produce regularly, the remaining half only produce semi regularly, which leaves about 5 active designers. Besides, Deanna is retired and has the time. How do I know this? Because she has explained this numerous times when people ask her how can she cope with so many teams. _____
It also helps that many of her pages look as though they took all of 30 minutes to throw together.
I'd guess that DesignerDigitals (Katie Pertiet's store) & Scrapgirls make a good profit, & they're almost never mentioned here. _____
Why ISN'T Katie mentioned on this blog more? She is the world's BIGGEST bitch and I would think that at the very least her designers would be smacking the daylights out of her.
I don't have personal experience with her either, but a few people I know in digi do/have and they didn't have very positive experiences. Maybe her current designers don't care how awful she is because the site makes so much bank. The figures I've heard over the years are staggering.
Yeah, they are high. Two peas designers were always high too, but they sold lots of stuff. I never really understood that since there were other stores with great designers that sold things for a lot less. But to each his own. Maybe it's the "snob" factor.
Why ISN'T Katie mentioned on this blog more? She is the world's BIGGEST bitch and I would think that at the very least her designers would be smacking the daylights out of her. ---------
There was that store that I think someone named Robyn sold at ... where they are not allowed to use CU and all their kits have a standard size ... it was 5 papers and a set number of elements I don't remember how much ... I don't remember the name of the store but it was also very expensive and there were claims they did really well. I remember it because she was pretty rude at times in the DST designer area about how they all 'really knew their designing programs' and so they don't need CU.
I think stores with that really digital look appeal to some people.
Also paper lines gone digital seem to be popular with their once-paper customers. Creative Memories digital stuff is really expensive for very little but I know some CM users who would never EVER buy anything else as they have bought the kool-aid and believe that the Creative Memories stuff is the best.
huh? how do you have "numbers thru 20" ??? She doing the Mayan alphabet???? _____ My assumption would be it's some sort of button alpha or something where the numbers are written on a circle or under a flair shine or something, where you couldn't put your own 2 next to the 0. I know when I design an alpha like that, I always include numbers higher than 0-9 because my personal preference would be to scrap with a "20" than a 2 and a 0 on separate buttons or flairs.
That does make some sense (would still be very limited - maybe for years in this millenium but just two digits like Class of 16 but this isn't a grad kit). The preview does show a capital A B and C and this is not a flair or button type of alpha though.
The reason Designer Digitals sells so much is because they have all of the big scrapbooking publications in their back pocket by giving those place's teams free product in exchange for mentions. They have built a pipeline that you wouldn't believe.
where they are not allowed to use CU and all their kits have a standard size ... it was 5 papers and a set number of elements I don't remember how much ... I don't remember the name of the store but it was also very expensive and there were claims they did really well. I remember it because she was pretty rude at times in the DST designer area about how they all 'really knew their designing programs' and so they don't need CU. -----------
Digital Scrapbook Place. There's a new owner there now so things may have changed.
The reason Designer Digitals sells so much is because they have all of the big scrapbooking publications in their back pocket by giving those place's teams free product in exchange for mentions. They have built a pipeline that you wouldn't believe. -------
and because they've been around since 2005 and have probably built a huge loyal customer base who don't go elsewhere.
I think DD attracts the paper scrappers who are digi curious (same goes for 2peas when they had digi). As 108 said, there was a time that the only digi LOs in CK all had DD in their supply lists. Plus, with Ali E and Cathy Z, that's a big draw for the paper crowd.
I have never known Robyn to be rude, I don't think she is at DSP anymore either. I don't think she was ever at DD. Who knows tho, she has been in the industry a long time.
Designers: If you want your CT to do their job, then do yours. Giving your CTMs a product (that releases on Friday) on Wednesday night or Thursday night does NOT give them much time to produce wonderful LOs for you. If you want to make money at this, then treat your design business as a BUSINESS. Don't throw stuff together at the last minute and then throw it at your team, expecting immediate wonderful results.
Maybe you could release the kit NEXT week, which gives you a week to make the next release...keeping you one week ahead of the curve. And that lets your team stay ahead too. (And if that's what you promised in your CT Call ad, then don't bitch and moan when your sales are low and your team isn't making LOs for you. They can't make LOs for a Friday release if you give them the kit *after* they've already gone to bed Thursday night.)
I CT for a designer who keeps promising to give us her stuff early, but we never get it before Thursday afternoon. I'm going nuts because I can't always scrap Thursday night for a Friday morning release. And this designer keeps begging for LOs, and all I want to say is "Get your act together, *then* ask us for LOs!"
I CT for a designer who keeps promising to give us her stuff early, but we never get it before Thursday afternoon. I'm going nuts because I can't always scrap Thursday night for a Friday morning release. And this designer keeps begging for LOs, and all I want to say is "Get your act together, *then* ask us for LOs!"
Been there, done that. Got worn out by it and dumped that designer. Now I CT for more professional designers and it's like night and day. You couldn't pay me to go back to that hot mess of a team.
I always give my CT 5-7 days (sometimes more) to work with a new product. That gives them plenty of time to create a layout or two while allowing me to get all the marketing of the kit coordinated.
I do give my CT kits sometimes late, but if I do I always tell them no worries just get to it when you can. I don't expect them to sit around and wait on me then rush. Not fair for them. I mean it is my fault anyways. I try to get it to them days ahead of time but sometimes it doesn't happen that way.
As a CTM, I don't stress it. If I can make a page I make a page. If I can't, it's scrapbooking, not open heart surgery. If the designer doesn't understand why pages can't be made, she doesn't deserve my time anyway.
I've seen so many CTM's quit because of the stress. That's their problem, not the designer's. A CTM has the choice to leave a team if they don't like how the designer operates. They can also choose to stay. Stop blaming other people for your stress. Manage it and move on.
I've seen so many CTM's quit because of the stress. That's their problem, not the designer's. A CTM has the choice to leave a team if they don't like how the designer operates. They can also choose to stay. Stop blaming other people for your stress. Manage it and move on. ^^--^^ Really. I mean we're not talking about some lucrative job here. If you quit this designer, you don't get her kits free. That's it. If you really like the designer (which I hope you do if you're ct'ing for her), you just might have to break down and actually pay for her designs.
I do give my CT kits sometimes late, but if I do I always tell them no worries just get to it when you can. I don't expect them to sit around and wait on me then rush. Not fair for them. I mean it is my fault anyways. I try to get it to them days ahead of time but sometimes it doesn't happen that way. - As long as you don't expect them to rush around at the last minute, then that's your business and it should be no problem. However, it seems like it would be to the designer's advantage to get the stuff to the ct early and that they would make a pointed effort to do so.
I always give my CT 5-7 days (sometimes more) to work with a new product. That gives them plenty of time to create a layout or two while allowing me to get all the marketing of the kit coordinated. - You'd think this would be standard practice for most designers but I don't think it is.
And this designer keeps begging for LOs, and all I want to say is "Get your act together, *then* ask us for LOs!" - Why not say this to HER and not anonymously on a blog? If you're that bothered by it, contact her and tell her nicely how you feel. Being a martyr doesn't help you or her.
I have seen a few decent designers pop up on Etsy. Do many people buy digiscrap kits there? - Don't know if many buy there. I've never seen anything worth buying. It's either too expensive (as in WAY TOO expensive) or poor quality.
I'm 187. I posted here, anonymously, because I know there are other designers out there who constantly give stuff late to their CT. I've quit teams over it before. But I love this team and the designer is great. I'm not trying to be a martyr--I don't rush myself and I don't sit in front of my computer waiting for her to post stuff (hell, there's no need: I know I won't get it until LATE in the week). I mentioned how a designer could give themselves a break (because I'm sure it can be stressful to get stuff done at the last minute--plus, it doesn't give you time to QC your stuff). And I said that you could increase your sales (because you'll be better able to prepare your ad/newsletter/whatever--which someone else also mentioned).
As far as telling the designer: do you think she'll change? I'm asking this seriously, not to be snarky/sarcastic. I don't think she'll change unless she takes the business part of designing more seriously. And that's what my post was trying to get across. It wasn't me just complaining about getting stuff late (although that sure does make me crazy), but it was about the lack of business acumen some designers have. If you're doing this just to have fun, then fine--don't worry about filling your newsletter/store previews with great LOs, or don't worry about your CT filling galleries on the kit's release weekend. Just make your kits and understand that your CTMs might not be able to do as much for you as you want them to.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 400 of 976 Newer› Newest»About the digi scrap parade, when Gennifer joined the group and added the p&co designers to the group a few of the SSD designers started leaving, not very many, maybe 5 or so. Robin had nothing to do with it and isn't even a part of the group b/c it is a designer run thing and so she isn't even involved. As for SO, I was told by a friend at SO that Kami asked her designers not to participate and a few of them were quite pissed because they don't understand why Kami would keep them from doing a blog train, espeically since they were always allowed to do the DST blog train before the parade came around. Oh and I know that Gennifer volunteered to leave the group so that her designers could stay in the parade because she didn't want her mistakes from the past to affect her designers and their livelihoods.
maybe 5 or so
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who were they?
#195- La Grier has a thing for goats? Not sure.
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LOL, well, could be.
200-I don't think it's meant to benefit anybody except the person that writes it. Maybe it gives them some sort of power rush or something. I'll never figure it out.
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Ditto this.
Robin had nothing to do with it
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Of course, she didn't. That's why it was so ridiculous when people started calling her a hypocrite, etc.
they don't understand why Kami would keep them from doing a blog train
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other than pissing her off, can she keep them from doing a blog train for any reason?
#7 - not unless it's in their contracts
^^that's what I thought. thanks.^^
Anyone who argues with someone on the internet needs mental help
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thanks Dr Phil!
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OMG, that's hysterical! I'm peeing myself laughing! Well, not really.
Only cause her husband is a total loser and cannot provide for his family.
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What century do you live in?
I don't know Traci at all (although we are Facebook friends) but honestly, we are in a recession, a lot of people are struggling, calling someone a loser because of that is LOW!
It's quite obvious that someone here has a personal grudge with her. My guess is jealousy.
Attacking someone's kids and husband isn't something one does because they don't like her designs.
mean personal stuff TOTALLY irrelevant to design capabilities, kit quality, and the whole idea behind DIGIsmack. I didn't know it was Designer/CT ugly kids, ugly teeth, husband's job, health or illness and other rude and awful things. I remember a certain poster back when poor Eva passed , they actually said that Eva made it up for attention. Really? WHO SAYS THAT?! I didn't even know her and I wouldn't say anything like that, let alone if I did!
I think, but I don't know for sure ... that Kami asked them not to do the parade because SO was doing their own thing that was planned prior to the parade during the same time. That would make sense. I guess we will see come August if any SO designers are in that parade.
I wonder if anybody even cares who is or who isn't participating in the parade. Everybody here just says how ugly and stupid freebies are anyhow. It's just another thing for them to crab about or smack. I wouldn't blame any of the designers for not participating.
La is definitely back at sweet shoppe. now maybe the staff will get rid of the stupid goat avatars
Those avatars really do look silly.
Everybody here just says how ugly and stupid freebies are anyhow. It's just another thing for them to crab about or smack. I wouldn't blame any of the designers for not participating.
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Yeah, because everybody here represents the entire of the digi community. Designers who don't participate or give up because of a few people on a smack blog need to give up anyway. The real world isn't all rainbows and sunshine.
I think the goats are fun. Some of you really do have sticks up your ass.
I think the goats are fun. Some of you really do have sticks up your ass.
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This is an understatement. It's more like 2 by 4's.
Everybody here just says how ugly and stupid freebies are anyhow.
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^^This is not true.^^ I know it to be a falsehood because I have given several good opinions regarding freebies/blog trains, etc. on this blog as have many others. I agree with #19. If designers can't take the criticism, they need to find something else to do.
I for one loved the last Digi parade offerings.
Im looking forward to the next one. I generally don't hunt down freebies as I believe the amount of effort in producing an item should be rewarded.
Oh ... some of the designers/store owners who participate in the Digiscrap Parade are being elitist and snobby? I'm so surprised.
It's like High School all over again. I would feel sorry for Gennifer except that I think she's strong enough to actually not give a fuck.
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IKR?! It's hilarious that some here think we should sorry for Gennifer because she is being blacklisted due to her known association with the smack blog.
The group that is blacklisting her is the same group that set up the Digiscrap Parade to be so exclusionary in the first place. It's really not a surprise that they would force someone out of the group if they don't like her, for one reason or another. They should have called it The Cliquey Bitch Parade, if you ask me. That's what it has been, from the outset.
The "group" that set up Digiscrap Parade was Wishing Well Creations from TDC and Girl Boy Girl (who didn't do anything). Laura (WWC) has nothing to do with TDF to be able to encourage "blacklisting". As one of the 'Cliquey Bitch Parade', I will say that at first I didn't like the concept as it seemed like a Nah-Nah We are better than the rest type of thing. But it was a chance for some great free advertising so I went along. SO did not participate in the first one as it had already planned their own train for iNSD.
I was one that did not like the idea of P&Co joining the group. Why? Not because of Gennifer, but because the concept of the group in the first place was to keep it smallish. 5 stores. and 5 stores only. If all 5 were part of the train the first time there would have been well over 100 participants. To me, that isn't small - - but then to add in another shop? THAT is what bothered me.
I have no idea about this thing with people leaving because of Gennifer. It must have been done "behind" the scenes, and I do NOT check the groups listing to see who may or may not be a part of it. There was nothing said "in the open" about a problem, nor was ANYONE asked about it publicly. Then again Laura (WWC) is great friends with some of the SSD people, so perhaps this is where that came from. No idea.
Anyone who is still upset about the "Cliquey Bitch Parade" obviously has a problem. It's not that its an 'honor' to be included - but it takes a bit of talent and experience to get into one of the included stores in the first place - and if you can't make it into one, then work harder until you can. There is a reason why other shops weren't included - quality being the first. That quality includes color choices for palettes and cohesive products, not just a bunch of recolored CU tossed in. It took me a few years to reach the level that I am at now, and I "earned" my wings. I make a decent living at this - but it took time, learning and a lot of patience to get here.
Really? You think I have a 2x4 up my ass? I appreciate humor and can be quite goofy, but anything that is cliquey or overly done(like the goat avatars) I find stupid.
Anyone who is still upset about the "Cliquey Bitch Parade" obviously has a problem. It's not that its an 'honor' to be included - but it takes a bit of talent and experience to get into one of the included stores in the first place - and if you can't make it into one, then work harder until you can. There is a reason why other shops weren't included - quality being the first.
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This argument is the whole reason why anyone would have a problem with it. First of all, it is a broad assumption that everyone who sells in those stores has better quality products than those that don't. SOME of the designers in those stores, in fact, don't put out the best stuff. And, it is also true that there are some great designers in the business who put out fantastic products, but don't sell in one of those stores.
The assumption that someone doesn't have good products because they haven't "made it" into one of those stores is also really rude and offensive. There are plenty of people who CHOOSE not to pursue a spot in one of those stores for a variety of reasons. This mentality, that you are better than others because you happen to sell in one of those five stores, is chief among the reasons why I will happily stay right where I am. And it's also the reason why you are all a bunch of cliquey bitches.
In SOME people's mind, SBG is a top store therefore should have been included if the criteria was "quality". I am not saying that it is the case, but you can see that everyone might have a different opinion of what is a top store, or who is a top designer. So in the end, no matter what criteria would be used, it will sound cliquey because someone will disagree.
What is the solution? No idea. Maybe there isn't one.
24 said: The group that is blacklisting her is the same group that set up the Digiscrap Parade to be so exclusionary in the first place. It's really not a surprise that they would force someone out of the group if they don't like her, for one reason or another. They should have called it The Cliquey Bitch Parade, if you ask me. That's what it has been, from the outset.
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You have no idea what you're talking about, and your argument makes you look like an idiot. The group that set up the Digiscrap Parade is NOT the group that is blacklisting Gennifer and Pixels and Co because the Parade actually let them join. How exactly is that blacklisting? Use your brain and THINK. Furthermore when some of the SSD designers complained, and yes it was the SSD designers, I thought it was maturely handled by Laura and Jen who run the Parade, especially since Laura is friends with so many of the people who complained and threatened mutiny. But she didn't bow to them just due to being friends, she and Jen did all of the handling behind the scenes to avoid raising a stink, evidenced by the fact that it didn't even get a mention on this blog even while it was happening, and they contacted people, got everyone's side, and took action without turning it into a specticle. I thought that the fact that they refused to kick out the Pixels and Co designers was fair because it's not their fault what their store owner once did, and letting Gennifer leave the group quietly without making a big announcement or turning it all highschool was classy.
I was one that did not like the idea of P&Co joining the group. Why? Not because of Gennifer, but because the concept of the group in the first place was to keep it smallish. 5 stores. and 5 stores only. If all 5 were part of the train the first time there would have been well over 100 participants. To me, that isn't small - - but then to add in another shop? THAT is what bothered me.
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I thought that the whole reason they added Pixels and Co was because SO didn't participate and Kami told her designers not to in the future and so they were replacing SO with Pixels and Co?
Really? You think I have a 2x4 up my ass?
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Yes. I imagine once the goats are gone, you will find something else to bitch about in no time.
Anyone who is still upset about the "Cliquey Bitch Parade" obviously has a problem. It's not that its an 'honor' to be included - but it takes a bit of talent and experience to get into one of the included stores in the first place - and if you can't make it into one, then work harder until you can. There is a reason why other shops weren't included - quality being the first.
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Bullshit. There are plenty of wonderful designers who do not belong to those stores. There are also plenty who do that don't have any extraordinary talent and are quite mediocre. For you to make a statement like this shows your ignorance and immaturity.
In SOME people's mind, SBG is a top store therefore should have been included if the criteria was "quality". I am not saying that it is the case, but you can see that everyone might have a different opinion of what is a top store, or who is a top designer. So in the end, no matter what criteria would be used, it will sound cliquey because someone will disagree.
What is the solution? No idea. Maybe there isn't one.
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There are a couple designers at SBG who knock the socks off most of them in the digiscrap parade.
The assumption that someone doesn't have good products because they haven't "made it" into one of those stores is also really rude and offensive.
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It's also simply not true. Anyone who shops around at all knows it.
I thought that the whole reason they added Pixels and Co was because SO didn't participate and Kami told her designers not to in the future and so they were replacing SO with Pixels and Co?
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So then the 5 stores who are in the DSP now are SSD, P&co, TDC, SM and TLP? Is that right? SO is gone?
Yes. I imagine once the goats are gone, you will find something else to bitch about in no time.
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So true.
...and if you can't make it into one, then work harder until you can
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I was wondering if you realize after seeing this printed how ridiculous it sounds?
There are a couple designers at SBG who knock the socks off most of them in the digiscrap parade.
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Uh..yeah, like Lorie Davidson and Rosey Posey for starters. Some of the designers in the DigiScrap Parade aren't talented enough to shine these ladies' shoes let alone design in the same league. There are also designers at P & Co. and OScraps (to name a couple other stores) who have talented, experienced designers. Their work and track record speak for themselves.
"It's not that its an 'honor' to be included."
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This is the only smart thing you put in that paragraph of a post. While I like lots of the designers who participate, there's a TON who don't who are just as talented as the best who do contribute to the Digiscrap Parade.
If it were going to be the 'top' designers, it would have to be by application, and not by store. There are good designers at not-so-great stores, and crappy designers at great stores. I can't even imagine the shit storm something like THAT would be, so I guess this is as good as it's getting.
Lets just all agree that it's better than the DST parade and leave it at that.
Lets just all agree that it's better than the DST parade and leave it at that.
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Maybe so, but see how much controversy that brought. The DSP is "good but elitist" and the DST is "bad but all inclusive". I guess it depends on which end you are to decide which one you like.
Anyone who is still upset about the "Cliquey Bitch Parade" obviously has a problem. It's not that its an 'honor' to be included - but it takes a bit of talent and experience to get into one of the included stores in the first place - and if you can't make it into one, then work harder until you can. There is a reason why other shops weren't included - quality being the first.
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Oh give me a break! I know from experience that some people get into certain stores because of who they are and who they know, irrespective of quality. You may have earned your 'wings', but there are quite a few designers who haven't.
Lets just all agree that it's better than the DST parade and leave it at that.
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But it's not.
About recoloring...
In a kid-themed kit:
- 180 general use items, like ribbons, flowers, frames etc in 8 different colors.
- 21 themed elements, in 7 different colors.
- 6 kids, all unique, doing/holding different things.
The problem? It has 3 African kids, 1 blonde, and 2 brown haired! I'm sure all of her costumers buy the kit for the themed elements; no one needs 65 flowers (which btw are the same in all the kits of her that I have bought so far). Since she wants to offer us such a variety of colors, why didn't she recolor the kids too? I can scrap a page even if the buttons aren't in the right color for my photo, but the African kids will be completely out of place!
Lets just all agree that it's better than the DST parade and leave it at that.
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But it's not.
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And yet, it is. By a HUGE degree!
but the African kids will be completely out of place!
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Not if you are African, in which case the one blonde and two brown haired kids would be out of place and Asian kids miss out completely.
From the description, it sounds like a Shabby Miss Jenn kit.
And yet, it is. By a HUGE degree!
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Not for me. Neither is better than the other.
Not to change the subject but .......
I've lost my mojo. I'm just sick of making kits, tired of advertising, tired of thinking up new backgrounds, etc. But the money is good - not great but good. I need a break. A long break.
But it's not.
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Are you saying the DST train was better than the DigiScrap Parade? If you are, you have no idea what you are talking about regarding quality. Period.
I've lost my mojo. I'm just sick of making kits, tired of advertising, tired of thinking up new backgrounds, etc. But the money is good - not great but good. I need a break. A long break.
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Why not try something completely out of the ordinary (for you)? Maybe that will motivate you some.
Not for me. Neither is better than the other.
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I wonder what your scrapped pages look like if you truly feel this? Also, who are your favorite designers?
Are you saying the DST train was better than the DigiScrap Parade? If you are, you have no idea what you are talking about regarding quality. Period.
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I never once mentioned quality.
I wonder what your scrapped pages look like if you truly feel this? Also, who are your favorite designers?
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The problem with the Parade was that it was the same old, same old. I never said it wasn't quality, it was just boring as hell. I really wanted to like it but I was bored with it. That's why neither was better for me.
I'm not sure how not liking the Parade has anything to do with my pages.
ROFL at the idea that DST's blog train is even usable, let alone comparing it to the parade. I don't care if the Parde contributions are original (whatever that is) or not, at least they are something that could actually be scrapped with. And expecting more than that for, well, nothing... expect much?
ROFL at the idea that DST's blog train is even usable, let alone comparing it to the parade. I don't care if the Parde contributions are original (whatever that is) or not, at least they are something that could actually be scrapped with. And expecting more than that for, well, nothing... expect much?
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It would be so nice to see how many designers in the said "top stores" would pass a regular quality check.
Do any of the store owners do quality checks or have them done ever? Just curious.
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No, I don't expect, much! Really, what a moronic expression.
I never said that the DST train was useable, did I? No. I didn't. The reading between the lines that goes on around here is astounding!
I never said I needed original, just not boring. Yes, I said same old, same old, but even the same old can be interesting. This was not. A different color palette would have made all the difference.
Good for you that you all liked it and thought it was fantastic, I didn't.
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Bully for you! Do you want a medal?
Most blog trains can be hit or miss. Some will like the colors others won't. Some will like the theme, others won't. It is like a buffet: take what you like as nobody should expect to like everything. If you like one kit, then it is one free kit you got. Then, wait for the next train.
I left a comment here earlier today and it did get posted and was displayed earlier for a while. Now it's gone; totally missing. Has this happened to anyone else on this blog recently? Does the blog owner have the ability to delete comments completely? I remember back when we used the old smack blog (the DST HOF one) and there was a period of time during which comments were deleting themselves like mad. Anyone remember that? Any chance it's happening again? I'm mad my comment from earlier is gone now, and it wasn't even inflammatory in any way.
61 again, just wanted to say for the record that my missing comment used to be no.36. Now it's gone and a new no.36 appears in its place. ???????
LOL, it's just blogger, post it again!
Blogger eats comments all the time. It has happened to me, too. Nothing to get worked up about.
What do people think about a designer leaving a top end store, selling at another top end store and then going back to the original store?
Yes, I'm asking because La Grier just did this, but she's not the only one that had done it. There's been a few in the past, not many, but a few and so far in the past I can't even remember their names.
Wasn't La Grier at TLP for almost 12 months, if not longer? So it's probably not a personalty clash, but sales?
I hate this blog and am ashamed that I read and post here, yet here I am. What is wrong with me? and YOU?
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Bully for you! Do you want a medal?
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Sure. Mail one to me.
What do people think about a designer leaving a top end store, selling at another top end store and then going back to the original store?
Yes, I'm asking because La Grier just did this, but she's not the only one that had done it. There's been a few in the past, not many, but a few and so far in the past I can't even remember their names.
Wasn't La Grier at TLP for almost 12 months, if not longer? So it's probably not a personalty clash, but sales?
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My guess would be first she had a drop in sales at TLP and second, she missed her buds. If her sales had been really good though, no way would she have gone back.
What do people think about a designer leaving a top end store, selling at another top end store and then going back to the original store?
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I don't really care where they go as long as I like their stuff and they don't set outlandish prices. I shop more at SSD so I'm fine with her there as I do like some of her work.
61 again, just wanted to say for the record that my missing comment used to be no.36. Now it's gone and a new no.36 appears in its place. ???????
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OMG! What do you think happened?
Personally I am shocked that SSD took her back. The way I remember it, she got really sick and was in the hospital and SSD did a giant collab to raise money to help her out. Not long after that, she deserted them and went to TLP. Why in the world would they take her back after that slap in the face???
Calm down, 70, I am sure she's trying to figure out if it was blogger that ate her comment or if the owner of this blog is policing things and deleting comments. Less drama from you, too, would be nice.
A few days ago someone was complaining on here about how overpriced Pixels and Co is, and something in SO's new releases this weekend just reminded me of something I think is worse by far: every time Wendy releases one of these editions of Great Escape I just can't even believe how much she charges. $8 for 6 papers and some elements? SIX papers? That's it? I get that it's an add-on to the original kit, but she's charging the price of a really big kit for something that is barely a mini. http://scraporchard.com/market/Great-Escape-Arizona-kit-digital-scrapbook.html
The way I remember it, she got really sick and was in the hospital and SSD did a giant collab to raise money to help her out. Not long after that, she deserted them and went to TLP.
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Designers from all over contributed to that collab, including quite a few from TLP.
Sure. Mail one to me.
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What's your address?
I hate this blog and am ashamed that I read and post here, yet here I am. What is wrong with me? and YOU?
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Nothing wrong with me. I don't hate this blog and I'm not ashamed to read and post here.
http://scraporchard.com/market/Great-Escape-Arizona-kit-digital-scrapbook.html
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I wouldn't pay $3 for that. It's hideous and the colors are awful. They don't remotely remind me of Arizona.
A few days ago someone was complaining on here about how overpriced Pixels and Co is, and something in SO's new releases this weekend just reminded me of something I think is worse by far: every time Wendy releases one of these editions of Great Escape I just can't even believe how much she charges. $8 for 6 papers and some elements? SIX papers? That's it? I get that it's an add-on to the original kit, but she's charging the price of a really big kit for something that is barely a mini. http://scraporchard.com/market/Great-Escape-Arizona-kit-digital-scrapbook.html
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You're paying for "71 unique elements", not the papers. The papers pretty basic and primary colors. Either pull them out of stash or make them.
But yeah, really expensive and I won't be buying it.
Calm down, 70, I am sure she's trying to figure out if it was blogger that ate her comment or if the owner of this blog is policing things and deleting comments. Less drama from you, too, would be nice.
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I think the op was being sarcastic not dramatic, just FYI. Maybe it's you who's a bit of a drama queen?
#79 LOL!!! I was typing basically the same thing you just did.
The one thing guaranteed to get me really annoyed is someone telling me to calm down when I'm already calm and reasonable. It's so patronizing.
Does it bug anyone else?
The one thing guaranteed to get me really annoyed is someone telling me to calm down when I'm already calm and reasonable. It's so patronizing.
Does it bug anyone else?
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Yes. Big time. It's as if I'm being reprimanded. I find it offensive as well as patronizing.
Well 81 and 82, consider yourselves reprimanded. I want you to both go to the corner and think about what you've done.
78, "71 unique elements" ??? Really??? Most of those are basic word art bits that take all of 30 seconds to create. They're street signs, for godsake.
I hate this blog and am ashamed that I read and post here, yet here I am. What is wrong with me? and YOU?
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There's nothing wrong w/me but if I hated the blog I damn sure wouldn't read and post here. There's plenty of things in life that one has to do. Being here is not one of them.
#84 - I'm pretty sure she was just quoting the kit description.
Well 81 and 82, consider yourselves reprimanded. I want you to both go to the corner and think about what you've done.
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I'm on my way.
#84 - I'm pretty sure she was just quoting the kit description.
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Yes, I'm pretty sure too. Is there a full moon out tonight?
I want you to both go to the corner and think about what you've done.
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I live in a lighthouse, there are no corners.
I wouldn't want people to think I'm monitoring posts, because I'm not, I don't have time to. But I just checked the spam folder and quite a few posts have gone in there the past few days.
I can mark them as "not spam", which means we'll have some duplicate posts, and this will also throw the numbers out, or I can just leave them in the spam folder where they are. Or I can delete them. I do delete genuine spam, but I have never deleted any proper comments.
What would everybody prefer that I do ?
The assumption that someone doesn't have good products because they haven't "made it" into one of those stores is also really rude and offensive. There are plenty of people who CHOOSE not to pursue a spot in one of those stores for a variety of reasons. This mentality, that you are better than others because you happen to sell in one of those five stores, is chief among the reasons why I will happily stay right where I am. And it's also the reason why you are all a bunch of cliquey bitches.
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Yep, this.
I've talked to some really fantastic designers who have been invited to some of those 'top tier' stores and declined because they don't want to be exclusive (no, not myself, I can freely admit I'm not ready for those stores yet, but after some interesting discussion I am not sure I'd say yes if the time ever came that I got the invite, either).
I also just finished sorting a bunch of kits I got from Scrap Orchard on iNSD and I can say that many of them have very good previews for very mediocre kits.
78, "71 unique elements" ??? Really??? Most of those are basic word art bits that take all of 30 seconds to create. They're street signs, for godsake.
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FYI, when a designer says 'unique elements' what they mean is that they are not recolors - each is unique from the other.
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I think merely changing the words on license plates and road signs is treading a very fine line between recolor and unique.
For the most part it's just really mean stuff.
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No it's not.
La has barely released anything for the last several months, so I should expect that her sales have slipped. Hard to blame the store for that, though.
I always love reading some of the posts here. Do you really know the top tier stores or are they what you think are top tier because they are so familiar. If you don't know the income of any given store then you don't know if there are stores out there that really do well and should be considered a top tier store even though they aren't a named store thrown out there all the time.
ITA with 93: changing the word on a license plate WA is not unique. The license plate WA itself is unique but the multiple words are not. Kind of like how changing the color on a flower does not make it unique. The flower in ONE color is unique--the rest are simply recolors.
And as for 73's original comment: Yup. HATE how much she charges. I wait for a big sale--I'd never buy that stuff at full or Fresh Fruit price.
96 said "I always love reading some of the posts here. Do you really know the top tier stores or are they what you think are top tier because they are so familiar. If you don't know the income of any given store then you don't know if there are stores out there that really do well and should be considered a top tier store even though they aren't a named store thrown out there all the time."
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I don't think a top tier store is the one that makes the most money. I think a top tier store is one that has the most QUALITY designers and products. Kind of like how an H&M store probably sell more in a day than a Burberry store sells in a week, but the quality at Burberry is better. But that's my definition of Top Tier. I'm sure some people disagree.
A top tier store makes a lot money and has great quality products from majority (preferably all) of its designers and sells many of those products.
#98 - You may want to look-up the sales figures for Burberry and H&M before using them as examples. Burberry blows H&M out of the water several times over. Top tier retail stores make lots of money selling a lot of products.
I think 96's point is that there are stores functioning as well as or better than the ones thrown around here as 'top tier'. Stores with talented designers, quality control, and dedicated drama-free owners. They exist but they aren't on your radar because there isn't any drama to discuss.
Name three that fall under that criteria that do as well or better than SSD, TLP, and/or SO.
I'd rather not - it's better to let them fly under the smack-blog radar.
Of course that will prompt you to say that if I can't prove it I must be lying. That's fine with me you can believe that.
Someone asked earlier if anyone was doing Iron Scrapper. I did it the past few years but not this year. Even a laptop as a first prize won't convince me to use that stupid pin-board. I'm done with SO unless they go back to a regular gallery.
102 - It's impossible to know unless you know each of the typically named top 3 (SSD, TLP, SO) stores sales figures and the stores you have in mind, but for whatever reason refuse to name.
What I find difficult to believe is that you possess all of the facts to make such an assertion.
You can't base your opinion on just a few designers sales figures. There are always top sellers in most stores who make a good living. There are also designers in those same stores who barely make above the quota. It's the mix that determines whether a store is "top tier" or not. The more high grossing designers a store have, the more it deserves the term "top tier" IMO.
If a store doesn't have a minimum sales quota, I doubt very highly that it's a contender for top tier status. A top store is going to know its break even point and only house designers who make above that point. That's just common business sense.
103 - I'm the same as you. There is barely any product in that store I want. I guess if I wanted templates I'd be all set as they have some good ones, but I kinda need some kits to go with those templates and SO is severely lacking when it comes to those. Unless I wanted to shop with Bella Gypsy, which I don't.
90 - Digismacker - nobody else has piped in yet, so I will throw my opinion in the ring: I'd love to read the comments that went into the spam folder. Please add them here?
86 and 88, I am 84 and I KNOW she was quoting the kit description. Don't talk to me like I am an idiot. I am still allowed to be astounded that someone - whether the designer, a poster here, anyone at all - would think that 6 papers and some word art bits are $8 worth of product.
The sad part is that she must sell a shit load of them because she keeps creating them and pricing them that way. No designer with a brain would continue doing that if it wasn't working for her and I know that. Nevertheless I am going to firmly remain in the camp who believes that it is crazy.
I'd rather not - it's better to let them fly under the smack-blog radar.
Of course that will prompt you to say that if I can't prove it I must be lying. That's fine with me you can believe that.
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You're absolutely right. I do believe that. You have no way to know what you assert therefore you are full of it. One of the first signs of a liar is someone who makes general, broad-sweeping statements that are impossible to confirm. The notion that you have this vast knowledge which you are keeping under wraps to save these stores from the evils of a smack blog is preposterous.
86 and 88, I am 84 and I KNOW she was quoting the kit description. Don't talk to me like I am an idiot.
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Maybe you should be more clear in what you post. You addressed the poster so we thought that's what you meant. If you don't want to be talked to like an idiot don't post like one. Dummy.
The sad part is that she must sell a shit load of them because she keeps creating them and pricing them that way. No designer with a brain would continue doing that if it wasn't working for her and I know that. Nevertheless I am going to firmly remain in the camp who believes that it is crazy.
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You firmly remain there, by golly. Thanks for sharing.
I'd rather not - it's better to let them fly under the smack-blog radar.
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If they are as good as you claim and as drama free as you claim, they will continue to remain under the smack radar. There have been designers and stores mentioned on here that have never been smacked because there's nothing to smack.
I'd rather not - it's better to let them fly under the smack-blog radar.
Of course that will prompt you to say that if I can't prove it I must be lying. That's fine with me you can believe that.
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You're absolutely right. I do believe that. You have no way to know what you assert therefore you are full of it. One of the first signs of a liar is someone who makes general, broad-sweeping statements that are impossible to confirm. The notion that you have this vast knowledge which you are keeping under wraps to save these stores from the evils of a smack blog is preposterous.
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Vast knowledge? Hardly. I said I knew some stores that are under your radar that are doing extremely well and have high-quality designs. I don't need to prove it to you to make it true. Go ahead and believe that you are so smart and with it that you know the ONLY successful stores in digiland.
Well, actually you did say you had the knowledge-see below-it's a quote from you.
"I think 96's point is that there are stores functioning as well as or better than the ones thrown around here as 'top tier'."
The truth is you have no idea what stores are functioning as well as or better than the ones mentioned. You're just throwing a bunch of words around and have no idea what you're talking about. You're a liar who now is trying to back pedal.
Don't talk to me like I am an idiot.
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No one was talking to you like you're an idiot, however ...
Well, actually you did say you had the knowledge-see below-it's a quote from you.
"I think 96's point is that there are stores functioning as well as or better than the ones thrown around here as 'top tier'."
The truth is you have no idea what stores are functioning as well as or better than the ones mentioned. You're just throwing a bunch of words around and have no idea what you're talking about. You're a liar who now is trying to back pedal.
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I didn't deny saying that - hardly backpedaling to say 'I said I knew some stores that are under your radar that are doing extremely well and have high-quality design' ... I just don't think that's the same as 'vast knowledge.' You're very skilled at reading into things.
You said that you knew that certain stores were doing as well or better as the aforementioned three. You do not know this at all. I'm not reading anything into it. It's what you said. You're definitely back pedaling now since you know you lied. A halfway intelligent person would drop it once they've been called on it. You, as typical liars do, keep trying to justify the fact that you spoke about something of which you have no knowledge.
How on earth is re-stating my original position in a subsequent post the same thing as back-pedaling? You are cray cray.
"there are stores functioning as well as or better than the ones thrown around here as 'top tier'."
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You have no idea if this is true. Therefore, you lied. Is that simple enough for you? It's absolutely impossible for you to know this. You now are saying something different from the above. Whether I am crazy or not doesn't negate the fact that you lied.
How on earth is re-stating my original position in a subsequent post the same thing as back-pedaling?
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I have no dog in this fight but that's not what you were doing at all. Let's be honest.
You, as typical liars do, keep trying to justify the fact that you spoke about something of which you have no knowledge.
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One of the first signs of a liar is someone who makes general, broad-sweeping statements that are impossible to confirm.
#106 ... I'll copy and paste them here so that they don't throw the numbers out:
Lauren Grier leaving TLP-last day is 06-30. It's a "secret" where she's going next. ^^^^ any idea? on June 2013
If that is true about TDD and P&Co, my guess would be the fact that Gennifer owned this blog at one point and some people in the industry don't like it. I would assume TDD definitely doesn't like it, even though they obviously all read here and likely post. TDD isn't worth the time or effort anyway. Telling P&Co they can't work to give a kit away to another site who will make a bunch of $ off it while you get "advertising" and nothing else and constantly asked to contribute freebies for the rest of your life for TDD's benefit isn't exactly a punishment. on July 2013
I was very surprised by some of my design acquaintances' opinions about her being in the Parade. - If THEY didn't want to be associated with Gennifer in the Parade then THEY should have dropped out. Who were the designers who threw a fit? THEY need to be blackballed. on July 2013
Only cause her husband is a total loser and cannot provide for his family. -- Has he never worked? Or is he just out of work now? on July 2013
#190 so you're trying to justify your gossipy behavior by saying someone else started it? Give me a break. If you're going to be a snake, at least own it. on July 2013
#193- You're arguing with an anonymous poster? You're as stupid as poster - Not to mention your stupidity for calling out an anonymous poster like he or she really gives a shit what you anonymously have to say. on July 2013
200-I don't think it's meant to benefit anybody except the person that writes it. Maybe it gives them some sort of power rush or something. I'll never figure it out. - Ditto. on July 2013
I was one that did not like the idea of P&Co joining the group. Why? Not because of Gennifer, but because the concept of the group in the first place was to keep it smallish. 5 stores. and 5 stores only. If all 5 were part of the train the first time there would have been well over 100 participants. To me, that isn't small - - but then to add in another shop? THAT is what bothered me. --- Interesting, I didn't think that was the concept of the group in the first place, keeping it smallish. I thought the concept of the group in the first place was to keep out the rif raff and let designers participate in a blog train that doesn't have some of the shit that we're seeing now from the DST blog train, where anyone and their neighbor can sign up. Exclusive? You betcha. And before everyone who reads that gets their panties in a twist, by rif raff I am not talking about other talented designers who put out good quality products that are attractive and do not happen to sell in one of the 5 on July 2013
Just because a designer leaves one shop does not mean there was a riff of any kind between owner and designer. Most designers I know leave to increase their exposure, and pick up more followers in a new store, hoping the followers they already have will follow them to the new store. Some do and some don't. So, it's not unusual for a designer to return to store #1 at all. Lots of them have done that. on July 2013
As I said before, most had been reposted at the time i found them in the spam folder. I think that all of them have been reposted now though, so I'll just leave these ones in the spam folder where they are.
Just because a designer leaves one shop does not mean there was a riff of any kind between owner and designer. Most designers I know leave to increase their exposure, and pick up more followers in a new store, hoping the followers they already have will follow them to the new store. Some do and some don't. So, it's not unusual for a designer to return to store #1 at all. Lots of them have done that. on July 2013
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Who has returned to their initial store after leaving it and selling somewhere else?
How on earth is re-stating my original position in a subsequent post the same thing as back-pedaling?
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I have no dog in this fight but that's not what you were doing at all. Let's be honest.
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This person does not know what being honest is. Worse yet, I believe she's kinda simple-minded. That's a bad combo-stupid and dishonest.
This person does not know what being honest is. Worse yet, I believe she's kinda simple-minded. That's a bad combo-stupid and dishonest.
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One of the first signs of a liar is someone who makes general, broad-sweeping statements that are impossible to confirm.
So, it's not unusual for a designer to return to store #1 at all. Lots of them have done that.
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Lots? I think not.
Just saw JenC call : does she do something by herself ??
http://digiscrapaddicts.com/forum/showthread.php?37862-Jen-C-Designs-Team-Call!-July-15th-Deadline!
I'm a designer bu i can't imagine to have girls to do EVERYHING for me !!
126 - I don't know Jen but although it does sound like asking a lot in the digiworld, that is what a business owner would do in the real world, so maybe she is treating her designing as a business? Didn't we often read complaints that many designers are not taking their "business" seriously, and are just hobbyist hoping to make money? Now, if Jen does it like a business, she is smacked?
And I am not Jen, I don't buy from Jen, and she is not even my friend on FB.
I would think in that case, her employees would be paid. No one works at McDonalds in exchange for a free hamburger.
For the pay, I agree with 128, but 127's response was about having someone do work for the designer.
There are people who will gladly do all of those jobs for designers. Some of them may not be terribly good scrappers style wise but still would love the kits. It is a business to anyone making $ at it. And she must be to be staying at two stores with earning limits.
What's more crazy is that one of her CT members is on 20 teams (judging by her [DeannaJ] signature.
The truth is you have no idea what stores are functioning as well as or better than the ones mentioned. You're just throwing a bunch of words around and have no idea what you're talking about. You're a liar who now is trying to back pedal.
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You have no way of proving that the OP does NOT know what they are talking about, so does that make YOU a liar too? I BELIEVE that the OP's initial statement is true and was just HER opinion. I do not have first hand knowledge but I do BELIEVE it is true. That does not make me a liar. It indicates that I have an opinion. Lighten up.
126, if she wanted her CT to do ALL those things, then I'd agree with you. But she has broken up the tasks into different jobs, and each comes with full access to her store (which I think is a fair trade). Personally, JenC's designs aren't my taste, but if a designer I loved had a call like that, I'd definitely apply to the position(s) that fit me.
On a semi-related rant: I haaaaate it when a designer has a CT Call and their ad just says "I'll post new products a few weeks in advance. Just make 3 or 4 LOs per month, posted at 4 galleries. That's it!" ...and then you join the CT and they also want you to post on the blog, write kit descriptions, make freebies, comment in their gallery AND the store's forum, etc etc. Oh, and they give you new releases with maybe a day's notice before release. Lame. I'd much rather have a designer break up all the different aspects of the business and divvy them out to different people. Then she can use her time to design. More design time should equal more products, which means I get more stuff to work with. And she makes more money. If a designer treats her business like a business (and not a hobby), then she should delegate work that doesn't need to be done by her. .
On a semi-related rant: I haaaaate it when a designer has a CT Call and their ad just says "I'll post new products a few weeks in advance. Just make 3 or 4 LOs per month, posted at 4 galleries. That's it!" ...and then you join the CT and they also want you to post on the blog, write kit descriptions, make freebies, comment in their gallery AND the store's forum, etc etc. Oh, and they give you new releases with maybe a day's notice before release. Lame. I'd much rather have a designer break up all the different aspects of the business and divvy them out to different people. Then she can use her time to design. More design time should equal more products, which means I get more stuff to work with. And she makes more money. If a designer treats her business like a business (and not a hobby), then she should delegate work that doesn't need to be done by her.
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Exactly!
131 you bring up Deanna, but I will say she has been on my team for quite some time and she is one of my best CT members. She is first to help with anything and has layouts done quickly. So you really can't judge because they are on many teams.
JenC's call (wanting 3 blog posters) has me thinking, I absolutely HATE reading posts on designers blogs that are not written by the designer. Am I unique in that view? I don't want to read a designer's blog to see what one of her team has to say, because they're obviously just doing advertising. I want to know what the designer has to say.
136 Maybe it depends what the articles/posts are about. I would not necessarily dismiss something not written by the designer herself.
I don't mind reading sometimes if by other people. I do like tutorials and I'm always searching for new or different ways to do things.
What blogs/designers are good for tutorials? I've found a couple from Sahlin, and Suzy Q. Any others? Are the scrappers that post them decent scrappers?
Captivated Visions has some tutorials on her blog that I have found useful.
JenC's call (wanting 3 blog posters) has me thinking, I absolutely HATE reading posts on designers blogs that are not written by the designer. Am I unique in that view? I don't want to read a designer's blog to see what one of her team has to say, because they're obviously just doing advertising. I want to know what the designer has to say.
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Totally agree with this.
What's up with SM and their Manic Monday when they say they have this every week and they don't?
What's more crazy is that one of her CT members is on 20 teams (judging by her [DeannaJ] signature.
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Why is that crazy? Half of those designers don't produce regularly, the remaining half only produce semi regularly, which leaves about 5 active designers. Besides, Deanna is retired and has the time. How do I know this? Because she has explained this numerous times when people ask her how can she cope with so many teams.
Maybe it depends what the articles/posts are about. I would not necessarily dismiss something not written by the designer herself.
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Me neither.
What's more crazy is that one of her CT members is on 20 teams (judging by her [DeannaJ] signature.
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Mind your own business (a novel concept). If Deanna does well and the designers like her what do you care?
#141 I think it changed to a monthly thing
You have no way of proving that the OP does NOT know what they are talking about, so does that make YOU a liar too? I BELIEVE that the OP's initial statement is true and was just HER opinion. I do not have first hand knowledge but I do BELIEVE it is true. That does not make me a liar. It indicates that I have an opinion. Lighten up.
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Not the op but it is impossible for that person to know what she says she knows. It's also absurd what her reasoning was to not divulge what those stores are. She stated it as fact not opinion. Yes, that makes her a liar. Maybe you need to get your reading comprehension in check and refrain from telling adults to "lighten up." Last I looked, there were no forum monitors here.
I BELIEVE that the OP's initial statement is true and was just HER opinion.
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Nope. An opinion is usually stated as "I think"; a factual statement is usually stated as "I know". She said "I know", thereby indicating that it's a fact and she has actual knowledge.
I BELIEVE that the OP's initial statement is true and was just HER opinion.
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Nope. An opinion is usually stated as "I think"; a factual statement is usually stated as "I know". She said "I know", thereby indicating that it's a fact and she has actual knowledge.
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Correct. She, of course, does not/ cannot have actual knowledge and was called on it. Once she was, she started to back pedal and justify her lying. A lie is a lie, plain and simple.
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It's not the first time there's been discussion about stores doing well selling digital scrapbooking supplies that aren't talked about on the Smack Blog. I remember some numbers that came out from Two Peas that sounded really great (yes, I know they closed they didn't say that digital wasn't selling well, just that they were going in a different direction.) An acquaintance of min sold there was said she was extremely happy with the sales.
I know I found digital scrapbooking by accident via a craft site I was on that sold fonts and clip art. In the forums people shared projects and I saw some digital scrapbooking so I tried it. I'd guess that side made really good money.
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Monkey doing your typing or are pretending to be one?
I'd guess that DesignerDigitals (Katie Pertiet's store) & Scrapgirls make a good profit, & they're almost never mentioned here.
It's not the first time there's been discussion about stores doing well selling digital scrapbooking supplies that aren't talked about on the Smack Blog. I remember some numbers that came out from Two Peas that sounded really great (yes, I know they closed they didn't say that digital wasn't selling well, just that they were going in a different direction.) An acquaintance of min sold there was said she was extremely happy with the sales.
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I think you're missing the point but really who cares.
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This is probably the most intelligent thing you've posted ever.
I'd guess that DesignerDigitals (Katie Pertiet's store) & Scrapgirls make a good profit, & they're almost never mentioned here.
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Are you kidding?
#141 - SM Manic Mondays are now on the 3rd Monday of every month and will have lots of items included. Not sure why they switched it up though.
Interesting, I didn't think that was the concept of the group in the first place, keeping it smallish. I thought the concept of the group in the first place was to keep out the rif raff and let designers participate in a blog train that doesn't have some of the shit that we're seeing now from the DST blog train, where anyone and their neighbor can sign up. Exclusive? You betcha. And before everyone who reads that gets their panties in a twist, by rif raff I am not talking about other talented designers who put out good quality products that are attractive and do not happen to sell in one of the 5 on July 2013
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I agree completely with this ^
JenC's call (wanting 3 blog posters) has me thinking, I absolutely HATE reading posts on designers blogs that are not written by the designer. Am I unique in that view? I don't want to read a designer's blog to see what one of her team has to say, because they're obviously just doing advertising. I want to know what the designer has to say.
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Agree completely with this too! ^
What's more crazy is that one of her CT members is on 20 teams (judging by her [DeannaJ] signature.
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Why is that crazy? Half of those designers don't produce regularly, the remaining half only produce semi regularly, which leaves about 5 active designers. Besides, Deanna is retired and has the time. How do I know this? Because she has explained this numerous times when people ask her how can she cope with so many teams.
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It also helps that many of her pages look as though they took all of 30 minutes to throw together.
I'd guess that DesignerDigitals (Katie Pertiet's store) & Scrapgirls make a good profit, & they're almost never mentioned here.
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Why ISN'T Katie mentioned on this blog more? She is the world's BIGGEST bitch and I would think that at the very least her designers would be smacking the daylights out of her.
I've heard some crazy stuff about her, but no personal experience.
I don't have personal experience with her either, but a few people I know in digi do/have and they didn't have very positive experiences. Maybe her current designers don't care how awful she is because the site makes so much bank. The figures I've heard over the years are staggering.
I had contact with her years ago at 2 peas, and she was always very pleasant.
Looking at the store it's very overpriced. Who would pay $ 7.49 for this :
•9 designer papers
•5 coordinating ribbons
•3 buttons
•5 staples
•2 stickers
•2 journaling blocks
•complete alphanumeric alphabet with numbers thru 20
What store?
Designer Digitals
http://www.designerdigitals.com/digital-scrapbooking/supplies/product_info.php/products_id/2640
That's highway robbery, wonder if anybody really buys it?
I don't know that I would even dl that as freebie.
That is way too high!
I don't know that I would even dl that as freebie.
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huh? how do you have "numbers thru 20" ??? She doing the Mayan alphabet????
Yeah, they are high. Two peas designers were always high too, but they sold lots of stuff. I never really understood that since there were other stores with great designers that sold things for a lot less. But to each his own. Maybe it's the "snob" factor.
Why ISN'T Katie mentioned on this blog more? She is the world's BIGGEST bitch and I would think that at the very least her designers would be smacking the daylights out of her.
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They've probably got better things to do.
Designer Digitals
http://www.designerdigitals.com/digital-scrapbooking/supplies/product_info.php/products_id/2640
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That kit is from 2007 - her newer ones have a lot more in them - still pricey though.
There was that store that I think someone named Robyn sold at ... where they are not allowed to use CU and all their kits have a standard size ... it was 5 papers and a set number of elements I don't remember how much ... I don't remember the name of the store but it was also very expensive and there were claims they did really well. I remember it because she was pretty rude at times in the DST designer area about how they all 'really knew their designing programs' and so they don't need CU.
I think stores with that really digital look appeal to some people.
Also paper lines gone digital seem to be popular with their once-paper customers. Creative Memories digital stuff is really expensive for very little but I know some CM users who would never EVER buy anything else as they have bought the kool-aid and believe that the Creative Memories stuff is the best.
That made me think of Stampin Up - check out these prices:
http://www.stampinup.com/ECWeb/ItemList.aspx?categoryid=1573
huh? how do you have "numbers thru 20" ??? She doing the Mayan alphabet????
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My assumption would be it's some sort of button alpha or something where the numbers are written on a circle or under a flair shine or something, where you couldn't put your own 2 next to the 0. I know when I design an alpha like that, I always include numbers higher than 0-9 because my personal preference would be to scrap with a "20" than a 2 and a 0 on separate buttons or flairs.
You're talking about Robyn Gough, 175.
That does make some sense (would still be very limited - maybe for years in this millenium but just two digits like Class of 16 but this isn't a grad kit). The preview does show a capital A B and C and this is not a flair or button type of alpha though.
The reason Designer Digitals sells so much is because they have all of the big scrapbooking publications in their back pocket by giving those place's teams free product in exchange for mentions. They have built a pipeline that you wouldn't believe.
where they are not allowed to use CU and all their kits have a standard size ... it was 5 papers and a set number of elements I don't remember how much ... I don't remember the name of the store but it was also very expensive and there were claims they did really well. I remember it because she was pretty rude at times in the DST designer area about how they all 'really knew their designing programs' and so they don't need CU.
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Digital Scrapbook Place. There's a new owner there now so things may have changed.
The reason Designer Digitals sells so much is because they have all of the big scrapbooking publications in their back pocket by giving those place's teams free product in exchange for mentions. They have built a pipeline that you wouldn't believe.
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and because they've been around since 2005 and have probably built a huge loyal customer base who don't go elsewhere.
I think DD attracts the paper scrappers who are digi curious (same goes for 2peas when they had digi). As 108 said, there was a time that the only digi LOs in CK all had DD in their supply lists. Plus, with Ali E and Cathy Z, that's a big draw for the paper crowd.
Yeah having Ali Edwards on your roster definitely helps out.
I have seen a few decent designers pop up on Etsy. Do many people buy digiscrap kits there?
You're talking about Robyn Gough, 175.
Jul 9, 2013, 9:00:00 PM
I have never known Robyn to be rude, I don't think she is at DSP anymore either. I don't think she was ever at DD. Who knows tho, she has been in the industry a long time.
Designers:
If you want your CT to do their job, then do yours. Giving your CTMs a product (that releases on Friday) on Wednesday night or Thursday night does NOT give them much time to produce wonderful LOs for you. If you want to make money at this, then treat your design business as a BUSINESS. Don't throw stuff together at the last minute and then throw it at your team, expecting immediate wonderful results.
Maybe you could release the kit NEXT week, which gives you a week to make the next release...keeping you one week ahead of the curve. And that lets your team stay ahead too. (And if that's what you promised in your CT Call ad, then don't bitch and moan when your sales are low and your team isn't making LOs for you. They can't make LOs for a Friday release if you give them the kit *after* they've already gone to bed Thursday night.)
I CT for a designer who keeps promising to give us her stuff early, but we never get it before Thursday afternoon. I'm going nuts because I can't always scrap Thursday night for a Friday morning release. And this designer keeps begging for LOs, and all I want to say is "Get your act together, *then* ask us for LOs!"
I CT for a designer who keeps promising to give us her stuff early, but we never get it before Thursday afternoon. I'm going nuts because I can't always scrap Thursday night for a Friday morning release. And this designer keeps begging for LOs, and all I want to say is "Get your act together, *then* ask us for LOs!"
Been there, done that. Got worn out by it and dumped that designer. Now I CT for more professional designers and it's like night and day. You couldn't pay me to go back to that hot mess of a team.
#187: Amen.
I always give my CT 5-7 days (sometimes more) to work with a new product. That gives them plenty of time to create a layout or two while allowing me to get all the marketing of the kit coordinated.
#187 I think we must be on the same team
I do give my CT kits sometimes late, but if I do I always tell them no worries just get to it when you can. I don't expect them to sit around and wait on me then rush. Not fair for them. I mean it is my fault anyways. I try to get it to them days ahead of time but sometimes it doesn't happen that way.
As a CTM, I don't stress it. If I can make a page I make a page. If I can't, it's scrapbooking, not open heart surgery. If the designer doesn't understand why pages can't be made, she doesn't deserve my time anyway.
I've seen so many CTM's quit because of the stress. That's their problem, not the designer's. A CTM has the choice to leave a team if they don't like how the designer operates. They can also choose to stay. Stop blaming other people for your stress. Manage it and move on.
I've seen so many CTM's quit because of the stress. That's their problem, not the designer's. A CTM has the choice to leave a team if they don't like how the designer operates. They can also choose to stay. Stop blaming other people for your stress. Manage it and move on.
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Really. I mean we're not talking about some lucrative job here. If you quit this designer, you don't get her kits free. That's it. If you really like the designer (which I hope you do if you're ct'ing for her), you just might have to break down and actually pay for her designs.
I do give my CT kits sometimes late, but if I do I always tell them no worries just get to it when you can. I don't expect them to sit around and wait on me then rush. Not fair for them. I mean it is my fault anyways. I try to get it to them days ahead of time but sometimes it doesn't happen that way.
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As long as you don't expect them to rush around at the last minute, then that's your business and it should be no problem. However, it seems like it would be to the designer's advantage to get the stuff to the ct early and that they would make a pointed effort to do so.
I always give my CT 5-7 days (sometimes more) to work with a new product. That gives them plenty of time to create a layout or two while allowing me to get all the marketing of the kit coordinated.
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You'd think this would be standard practice for most designers but I don't think it is.
And this designer keeps begging for LOs, and all I want to say is "Get your act together, *then* ask us for LOs!"
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Why not say this to HER and not anonymously on a blog? If you're that bothered by it, contact her and tell her nicely how you feel. Being a martyr doesn't help you or her.
I have seen a few decent designers pop up on Etsy. Do many people buy digiscrap kits there?
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Don't know if many buy there. I've never seen anything worth buying. It's either too expensive (as in WAY TOO expensive) or poor quality.
196-And if you are frustrated, your other ct members are probably frustrated too. If you say nothing, you aren't helping them either. Good luck.
I work with a few designers that have their kits ready 2 weeks in advance. It really takes the pressure off to have the kit that early.
I'm 187. I posted here, anonymously, because I know there are other designers out there who constantly give stuff late to their CT. I've quit teams over it before. But I love this team and the designer is great. I'm not trying to be a martyr--I don't rush myself and I don't sit in front of my computer waiting for her to post stuff (hell, there's no need: I know I won't get it until LATE in the week). I mentioned how a designer could give themselves a break (because I'm sure it can be stressful to get stuff done at the last minute--plus, it doesn't give you time to QC your stuff). And I said that you could increase your sales (because you'll be better able to prepare your ad/newsletter/whatever--which someone else also mentioned).
As far as telling the designer: do you think she'll change? I'm asking this seriously, not to be snarky/sarcastic. I don't think she'll change unless she takes the business part of designing more seriously. And that's what my post was trying to get across. It wasn't me just complaining about getting stuff late (although that sure does make me crazy), but it was about the lack of business acumen some designers have. If you're doing this just to have fun, then fine--don't worry about filling your newsletter/store previews with great LOs, or don't worry about your CT filling galleries on the kit's release weekend. Just make your kits and understand that your CTMs might not be able to do as much for you as you want them to.
200-I think your suggestion about skipping a week was a good solution for both the CT members and the designer's relationship with the CT.
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