198-I'm not 197, but I see her point. I agree it's undignified because things like that should be private between the designer and the applicant. It looks like they are groveling.
Her blog and/or newsletter (can't remember exactly) said she was going to sell her digi scrapbook stuff, along with other kinds of design (?) on Etsy. She didn't elaborate on what other kinds of things she would be doing or I missed it which is entirely possible! Don't know if she was at TDC a year or so ago..didn't become aware of her until she was at SBG.
198-I'm not 197, but I see her point. I agree it's undignified because things like that should be private between the designer and the applicant. It looks like they are groveling. _______________ That's because some of them are. KCB does wonderful work and I've bought lots of her work, however, I still can't understand the whole CT allure. Never will. Cudos to those who do it though. I enjoy looking at your pages!
--- ^^^ I'd rather pay full price any day for a kit (or wait for a sale). All that butt kissing to the designer HAS to be exhausting; it's just not my nature to glorify someone for simply doing his/her job.
197 - How is it undignified? And with an attitude like yours, I'm sure they don't need or want someone like you. Thanks.
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I'm not 197 but I agree. It's like publicly requesting people to beg for a spot and it's kinda sad actually. It's also a LOT of FREE advertising for the designer to do a ct call that way.
Lol - okay y'all. I suppose I understand your point about the public-ness of it, but I don't see it as a negative thing. I've helped a couple designers do CT calls before, and the public ones like this are quick and easy to do compared to dealing with a TON of emails. You have all the examples right there to see at a quick glance. I don't see it as groveling, but then I love her work and would LOVE to be on her CT. Just don't have time for it right now. Have fun disagreeing with her method. I'm sure you wouldn't be a good fit for her team anyways. Cheers!
I've helped a couple designers do CT calls before, and the public ones like this are quick and easy to do compared to dealing with a TON of emails. --- I've done a few ct calls myself and no matter how much "work" it was to do it privately, I did it as do most of my colleagues. It just seems more professional that way. To me, that's part of a designer's job (or whomever she designates/compensates to help) to go through "ALL those e-mails" regardless of how much work it is.
I'd rather pay full price any day for a kit (or wait for a sale). All that butt kissing to the designer HAS to be exhausting; it's just not my nature to glorify someone for simply doing his/her job. ------
I've been on plenty of CTs and have never had to butt kiss anyone.
It's not the first time a designer has done a call like this. In fact, guest spots in a lot of places were often conducted like this --- Not one person said it was the first time this has been done. That doesn't make it any less unprofessional.
I thought some sounded like they were groveling especially when they talked about their Friday nights. Is a free kit that important that you would commit all your Friday nights?
There are designers that stay there a long time too. Neither one of those two designers seemed to be doing very much of anything. Never heard of Karen Lewis and I thought missvivi retired long ago as there has been nothing new from her in ages.
I thought some sounded like they were groveling especially when they talked about their Friday nights. Is a free kit that important that you would commit all your Friday nights?
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I agree. Some of them sounded so needy, I was embarrassed for them.
Is a free kit that important that you would commit all your Friday nights? __________________ Not even a little bit..I really wonder about people sometimes.
I feel calls should be private too. That way a) we aren't all privy to the grovelling and desperation and b) we aren't all privy to who does NOT get chosen.
I am a designer and I can see right through grovelling and but kissing and don't put those people on my team. I only put people on my team I genuinely like working with - it's a small team but it's a fantastic team.
I only saw a few in the KCB call thread that were a bit shameless and one even admitted she was begging. Most just seem excited and are customers or fans. I don't see anything wrong with saying, "hey I'm a customer and I love your work enough to buy it."
Most of the pages submitted are pretty decent, but there are definitely some stinkers. Shouldn't be tough to weed those out.
Look, if it had been done at MSA, DSA or DST or one of those places, then I'd agree it's a bit unprofessional, but doing the call on home turf where your fans and customers are seems reasonable to me.
I feel calls should be private too. That way a) we aren't all privy to the grovelling and desperation and b) we aren't all privy to who does NOT get chosen.
I am a designer and I can see right through grovelling and but kissing and don't put those people on my team. I only put people on my team I genuinely like working with - it's a small team but it's a fantastic team.
Maybe that kind of call has been done a lot but think about it. If you're not picked, then you're kind of publicly humiliated - because everyone who applied is on the thread.
I applied and have no problem doing so in public. If not chosen, I wouldn't feel embarrassed at all. I'd think it's because she only had so many spots and didn't feel I was right for one of them. No shame for me in that.
If not chosen, I wouldn't feel embarrassed at all. I'd think it's because she only had so many spots and didn't feel I was right for one of them. No shame for me in that. -----------
Those who applied in the thread are apparently okay with the method so I don't see why others should feel bothered by that. It's all about the designer and her fans. The way I see it, guest CTs are for giving back to fans anyway. (Conditions stated clearly that you have to post layouts with her products.) Since they are all fans, compliments to the designer are natural. I'm talking in general here as I've never been her customer. Not my scrapping style.
Now Thaty? Is SO a designer killer or what? How many designers have they killed over the past few years. I wonder if they are really difficult to work with.
I'm the original poster about the public ct call. I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought it was undignified. To those that thought it was fine, that's fine too--go for it. I didn't bring it up to make it a controversy at all. I just wrote my opinion. I can still do that. I'll stay with the ladies that treat me with dignity though. I've never bought any of her kits. Her store looks good though. I just dislike her way of choosing a CT.
I'd love to have a couple CT's for no reason other than I'm spending waaaay to much money lately on artwork. I think I'm a pretty good scrapper but there is NO way I'm comfortable enough putting my application page on an open board for everyone to judge. But that's just me. I'm a little more shy like that. I wasn't familiar with her. I like her stuff when I looked in the store but I don't think I could do the call. I hope that she picks a some people who already don't have a gazillion stores. Carrie1977 and CarolinaScrapper, and others ... let some others have a chance. I'm sure you aren't lacking in new content...
What's most obnoxious about the CT call is the "Must be able to scrap Friday nights, as Kristin is usually working till the last minute" part. Get your shit together and get stuff to your CT with more than a few hours notice.
Now Thaty? Is SO a designer killer or what? How many designers have they killed over the past few years. I wonder if they are really difficult to work with.
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People on this blog are quick to assume that it is the site's fault when designers leave the top stores. Maybe some of these people simply can't compete with the best designers in top stores. Maybe they don't fulfill the obligations they agreed to and were asked to leave. Maybe they just thought that they would move in to a top store and expect the money to start flowing without having to put in an effort. Top stores are not about to keep people who are falling short. If they did they may end up turning into a store where there are only one or two designers putting out product and everyone on here complaining about that.
I would expect a store like SO to have a business minded approach and kick people out who are not pulling their weight. Thaty didn't do anything the entire time she was at SO. She uploaded her old products and that was pretty much the end of her activity.
Totally agree 51. I think one of the reasons that SO was so quiet was that Thaty and some of the other newer designers weren't doing anything. Bella Gypsy usually produces weekly but most of the other designers do releases every other week. Chelle, for example does a little something every week, but her big kit/collections are once or twice a month. It was very noticeable that some of the designers weren't putting stuff out. Sorry to see Thaty go, but she didn't do anything in the forums, there was no interaction with her and nothing new. Sorry to see that she had to move and had personal stuff come up. It is too bad that she didn't say something before. Traci Stroud, I think made an announcement to the effect that some personal stuff was happening so she was going to lay low for a bit, but she was coming back. That's cool. It's good to know she wasn't disappearing. As a customer, after hearing something like that, I'm inclined to go check out her store and see if there was anything in there that I might like so I could help her out with a little $$. Emily Card just had a baby, totally get that she's slowed down a bit. Also one of the BG girl's had a baby too.
59 - how do you know these 2 are pirates? I am on CTs with these 2 I think I should let the designer know but I need more proof. If so, this is HORRIBLE!
48 -- Carrie1977 and CarolinaScrapper, and others ... let some others have a chance. I'm sure you aren't lacking in new content... ----------------------------------- Honestly I don't even bother applying when I see people like these two apply (in a public call, or when they say they sent their app in). Isn't 20 teams enough? And I seriously think that sometimes, designers don't actually look at the applicant galleries -- they just offer spots to those who are "well known"...they're on so many teams, they must be good...right?
54 - Wtf is a pirate from the baby gaga site?! ----------------------------------------------- Baby Gaga is a parenting website (I Googled lol). And pirating, as in sharing kits. Search for "kit trade" or "swap kit" and you'll find a bunch of topics. They all look old though, which I guess is a good thing. No idea if any of the posters are CarolinaScrapper or this Amanda chick though.
I based my choices on # of teams and quality of scrapping along with a mix of styles. I wouldn't choose anyone who "freelances" for someone. If they can't commit to others now, why would I think they could commit to me as a designer? Stupid.
I also wouldn't choose anyone who has never CTed before. Guest spots are done for the extra promotion in short chunks. I want scrappers who know what that means without having to hand hold.
There were also a few who didn't fill out their apps completely, so I didn't consider them since KCB said she would consider them, either.
I don't know how many spots she's filling, but those would be the scrappers I'd choose from.
I think 58 needs too do a little more research. For example hollyxann freelances for Libby over at Sweet Shoppe. I know this is I am on Libby's CT. I also have a feeling that you are either Laura or Traci.
Just curious, are any of you willing to share how you found this smack blog? I saw it mentioned in a thread at DST when all the drama was going down there a few months back. Other than that, I've never heard anyone talk about it. Kind of curious how well known it is and how many are really reading here.
Am I the only one who buys something only when it's on sale? Does anyone ever buy something at regular price? And when I say sale I mean at least 30% It's just I buy many things and want many more so the less money I spend the more digi products I get.
I have a LOT of people tell me they read here... I'm safe, because you all already know that I'm around, and I won't judge. I would venture to say that at least 75% of the people I know in the industry have openly talked to me about what they read here, and I bet that there are more reading here who haven't discussed it with me.
55, I'm 50. Carolina Scrapper used to share kits under the name "Lola" on baby gaga. I don't think she does anymore...at least not publicly. Her gallery at Scrap Orchard has a lot of the siggies that she used on baby gaga that's how I know its the same person. I don't have a link to her profile right at this moment but I'll post it later when I'm available to search for it.
And Amanda Yi is a friend of CarolinaScrapper (Christine is her name). They're both on baby gaga. They both digiscrap. So I'm just ASSuming for her...you are who your friends are. You know?
Another designer told me about years ago. But it was the old blog, which was way more interesting actually. But it wasn't divided into months so posts ran for a long time.
Here's the url. It still has all of the old posts going back to 2008.
Ugh! I just went to SO to look for some inspiration layouts for a kit I bought months ago. I can't find anything with that new scrap pin set up. I hate it!!
#72 I agree it sucks I haven't been shopping at SO as much since they switched but it must be working for some because they seem to be sticking with it oh well there are lots of other stores out there that I think are more user friendly
*Lola* on baby gaga is now *soa*bitch And thus ladies and gents why you should not be putting anything up line. If you google "baby gaga" kit swap lol, the *soa* posts come up and you can tell that the original username was *lola*. I only spent about 2 minutes googling and reading, but going by the husband's name, kids, and town of residence: a) it is her. b) she was indeed swapping kits on baby gaga
OK copyright experts - what do you think of this lawsuit... a yoga teacher (Bikram - "hot" yoga) suing other yoga studios for teaching the same sequence of asanas that he does. I personally don't think he can win, but he seems confident. What do you think?
80 - what do you mean by jward or cassel? I'm #75 and don't get your question and I never mentioned anything about being friend with anyone. Are you talking to #76?
79 Considering she's never designed a kit in her life, I doubt they're her own kits. =/ And I'm sure the people she's swapping with aren't swapping kits they made as well.
Isnt baby gaga the site aly was a part of? Funny how everyone can find all these trade/pirate links from carolinascrapper but could find none of aly when she asked when she was accused. Maybe she wasn't a pirate after all. Sucks that it was said about her.
I see nothing that suggests Amanda Yi did anything wrong. I'm guessing Aly is trying to stir the pot with useless Baby Gaga info so people will forget about her.
Aly's accounts on babygaga got deleted and banned so many times it's hard to trace her, but lots of those girls traded in other forums before there was a board for it on babygaga. The links for carolina scrapper are from 2010, do you have anything current? Just because someone WAS a pirate, doesn't mean they still ARE a pirate. Maybe she's on so many CT's because she found a legal way to get the kits she wants? I used to pirate music all the time and now with spotify and pandora I haven't had to do that in a few years. Or maybe she just didn't realize it was wrong? A lot of people who started out scrapping at Babygaga for the siggies just didn't understand why they couldn't trade kits.
90 I love Attention. Why would I want people to forget about me? And I read here often. I haven't been bought up in a while so I've been pretty much forgotten until now! So thanks!!!
And 86, I am not a pirate. Never was. People that don't like me just made it up I guess with no proof. It's whatever now. I really don't care anymore what people think as I'm no longer a designer or directly involved with this community except on a customer basis.
But I know CarolinaScrapper & JessicaW are pirates because they were actively involved in a thread where I told them that sharing is a no no. http://forum.baby-gaga.com/about1573551-130.html
As well as a girl named Cassie. So if they're on your CT beware! Notice how they erased all their posts? So they wont incriminate themselves but the damage is already done.
97 You dont have to have a current account to find old posts. As long as I was quoted sharing, you will be able to find evidence of me doing so. Nothing has ever been found because it's not true. But obviously you are one of those people that think that I am the most horrible person in the world that everything bad said about me MUST be true so I'll let you keep thinking what you want. Like I said before, it doesn't matter to me anymore. Lol. I'm merely a customer and there isn't anything you can do about that...pirate or not. :)
96 I don't recall anyone looking for her sharing on baby gaga//they were looking for carolinascrapper but from what I remember, Amanda Yi is a member of baby gaga but she wasn't involved in the kit sharing in that thread. But I haven't been on baby gaga for a while so who knows. From experience I can tell you that just because you are a member there doesn't mean you're a pirate. But people will think whatever they want. :D
101 Not true. Maybe that applies to you but it doesn't apply to me. I don't give a fuck what anyone thinks!
...But that doesn't mean I'm not going to say what I did and did not do. I can say it until I'm blue in the face....because I can. Doesn't mean peoples opinions matter to me.
101 In other words, the attention I get from coming back is more important to me than attempting to make people believe that I don't care.
I can sit here and say I'm not a pirate all night....not because I care what you anonymous bozos think but because I'm bored as fucks! Get it now? Good.
101 Oh please shut the fuck up with the talk like you actually know me enough to say what I "would do".
If you did know me, you would know that I get more satisfaction from the arguing and the attention than I do from ignoring the stupid statements, gossip and rumors said here about me.
I'd rather sit here all day if I'm bored as fuck like now and argue than to ignore you anonymous bozos and let you think that I don't care.
#102 - babe, you are the one saying you don't care, not me. Besides, it's logic that if you didn't care, you wouldn't keep coming back, it has nothing to do with knowing you personally or not.
102 I never said that you said that I don't care...babe. And there's a difference between actually giving a fuck and just being here to talk shit for the sake of it. I'm just here to talk shit...again, likee I said, I do not give a fuck what you or any of your anonymous buddies think.
#62 I found the blog about 6yrs ago. I forget what "crisis" was going on at the time but I think that I stumbled over it at DST. Im just a customer, although I did do some Ct work many years ago. So its my guilty little pleasure and I do glean lots of useful tidbits for sales, great kits, great designers etc especially who to avoid quality wise. My all time favourite thread was "Simons Reviews" those were very informative. Come back Simon
105 why wouldi come back to talk about anything else but me? I reaally don't care about what designer is using disney or what store is ripping off what designer. But hey....you know mee soooo much better than I know myself! I guess I do care what is said about me.....because you say I do. Boo fucking woo.
101 Oh please shut the fuck up with the talk like you actually know me enough to say what I "would do".
If you did know me, you would know that I get more satisfaction from the arguing and the attention than I do from ignoring the stupid statements, gossip and rumors said here about me.
I'd rather sit here all day if I'm bored as fuck like now and argue than to ignore you anonymous bozos and let you think that I don't care.
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I don't know you from Adam, but I'm embarrassed for you. It's so obvious you do care what people say and think about you. To come on here, using your name and making a fool of yourself, is very brazen...and stupid.
105 why would I come back to talk about anything else but me?
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There's no doubt in my mind that even though you're obviously massively insecure, that you are your fave subject. Just remember, you're probably pretty alone in that thinking.
110 Don't feel embarrased for me. :) None of you will ever meet me or really know me. Thank God.
But like I said, there's a difference between caring and just being bored. Learn it. Until you do, I will agree with you to make you happy and say I care.......
If you knew me...you'd know that I'm far from insecure. Lol. FAR. At most I'd say my life is pretty uneventful at this moment as I'm on bedrest for my pregnancy. But since you say I am insecure, I guess I am...
And I dare to be different. It gets boring thinking and being the same as everyone else. so I'm perfectly fine knowing that I'm alone in thinking a certain way. -Aly
Aand I don't come back everytime I'm bought up. Someone made a failed attempt to bring me up last month sometime...wondering where I was. I saw it....I was just too busy to respond.
119 - But she still got offered a position - what a joke. ---------- And that is exactly the reason why I won't be accepting the position they offered me. I've been burned by her once already, I refuse to let it happen again. STS obviously doesn't know about who she really is...or they just don't care, which is sad.
125 - How does anyone know who got offered a position if not yourself? Was there a public announcement for it? Or is Charly already in the designer list? ------------------- The email I received stated we were all being offered a spot. So much for a real "winner".
126 - Who in their right mind would want to design there anyway? Commission from what I've heard is 60-65%. ----------- I didn't even open the contract, so I didn't know that. Makes taking the position that much easier.
I made decent money at STS, not tons or anything, but ok. I left because Nicole has zero ethics and she's unpleasant to work for. It doesn't surprise me at all that she'd take on Charly.
126 Incorrect. You are really wrong on ALL your "facts". Stuff To Scrap Commision Exclusive – 80/20% Non Exclusive (1 other venue and/or own store) – 75/25% Guest (month by month basis) – 70/30%
126 I really wish I knew who you were so I can avoid you. I have a feeling you are La Belle Vie. --------------------------------------------------- No, 126 is not me. I will say that 123, 127 & 128 are me, but 126 is not. As I said I didn't even open the contract, so I had no idea about commission lol
I am 119 and I knew she had been offered a position because I read it in the forum at STS. http://stufftoscrap.com/forums/showthread.php?13440-Designer-Darling-Results
139 Either way I figured you were here. You were also the one that "dished" on PDP weren't you? You can't be trusted with information. Like I said, I will be doing everything to avoid you especially now that you have confessed to being La Belle Vie. It is quite obvious you have no problems dishing on anything and anyone. You should take the spot on Stuff To Scrap because you are going to have a hard time getting into stores now. Good Luck.
142 - No, I wasn't the one who "dished" on PDP...what was the dish anyway, that they weren't re-opening? Because that was public knowledge (STS forum) before it was brought up here. Yes, I am here. Yes, I read and sometimes comment. Most designers/store owners do. I just choose to be honest about it. I haven't "dished" about anyone or anything. I haven't made any comments regarding anything that wasn't already stated here or anywhere else, to say otherwise is completely untrue.
They hold a contest because it gets them traffic, not because they are looking for new designers (all they have to do is go to DST or FB and offer positions to designers if that is what they want.
I am not at all surprised Nicole deleted a thread about what Charly was up to - she did the same with the Miss Tiina copyright stuff ... she got really huffy about it all being 'high school gossip'
I always thought gossip was the stuff that wasn't true that you said just to hurt people, not the stuff that is true that you tell people to warn them.
Holy crap. Usually when people post someone's "copy" I sit here thinking it could be a coincidence or that the people are stirring. But this time... it's like La Belle Vie went out of her way to make them look the same.
The similarity in those previews is disturbing, but that color palette has been pretty popular lately. At least if you're going to rip someone off, don't make the preview nearly identical...
#155 - um, no. Megan released her kit in August 2012 (and it was re-release) while La Belle Vie released her's in January 2013. Are you thinking of Megan's Little Miss Sunshine kit?
155 No it did not. I was on Megan's CT when her kit first came out and I haven't CTed in over a year.
Megan's Came out May 2012 originally. http://www.designsbymeganturnidge.com/blog/?p=1486
La Belle Vie's Came out March 1, 2013 or January 3, 2013...not sure which way Scrapable does their dates. http://scrapable.co/store/Keep-Your-Head-Up.html
Holy cow 146 that is shocking! That she arranged her preview so closely to Megan's is the shocking part WOW brazen copying makes it very clear that she created the kit as a duplicate of Megan's. I would not buy from her if she priced it all at 25 cents.
If you compare the placement of the elements on the two previews, they are creepily similar. Clouds in the same spot? Check. Sun? Check. Flowers, with leaves placed just so? Check.
I've seen stuff like this before and here's what I don't get... do people like La Belle Vie think they aren't going to get caught blatantly copying like that?!?!?
Is there a legally filed copyright on Megan's kit? No. We all know it's too cost prohibitive for us to really pay to copyright our work. But, will something like this create a very bad reputation in like half a heartbeat? You BET it will, and it should.
La Belle Vie, did your mama forget to teach you that winners never cheat? I hope Scrap Orchard makes a big, dramatic, federal case of your blatant copying. You deserve it.
163 it is not just a matter of both designers having a similar theme and colors and that both kits happened to look similar, clearly La Belle Vie created her kit as a copy of Megan's and even was brazen enough to copy the preview......... Now is it illegal? No. Is it unethical? Absolutely. Store owners should be very wary of being associated with her because as a customer I would steer a wide berth around any store she is selling in.
So why are there a bunch of posts talking about it? Seems odd to me. -----
It seems odd to you that people are talking about someone who obviously copied a kit from someone else? Have you been reading here long? That's precisely the type of topic frequently posted here.
174 I'm the one that originally suspected her and I know for sure it was her responding. Its your choice to believe me or not. But I stand by what I say........I know its her. She can't be trusted. She seems to like drama. She copies kits. I'm avoiding her.
189 said:Store owners should be very wary of being associated with her because as a customer I would steer a wide berth around any store she is selling in.
I don't think many people shop at that store anymore, so it probably won't be noticed. Too bad because it used to be a nice place.
I looked at her other stuff and didn't see anything. One that looked like a Bella Gypsy color palette, a little, but nothing as blatant. That rainbow kit is easily the best thing in her shop and Megan's is still way better.
On the STO/STS thing, they're both dumpy shops, but STO looks nicer and Jen's never been unethical to me. Nicole on the other hand...
180 I do have a reason to think it is her. I know you are probably going to hate but I chose to keep this reason to myself. But she made it pretty obvious to ME that it IS La Belle Vie. It is okay if you don't believe me but I know.
181 No offense to anyone but Bev is a horrible store owner. every Since Modern June left, the place has been a dump. Reminds me of her old store...Digiscrapbookmania....another trash store.
Yeah, PDP is closing for good. And those of us who were stupid enough to still be subscribed to their newsletter were treated to a SPAM email today, advertising all the new ventures that Amy and Pamela are off to. Terribly tacky.
186 If you say so. You can't bully me into giving you a reason. I can't give a reason without revealing my identity. So like I said I'll keep it to myself. If you want to think its bullshit, so be it. :) You'll get over it.
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198-I'm not 197, but I see her point. I agree it's undignified because things like that should be private between the designer and the applicant. It looks like they are groveling.
Miss Vivi & Karen Lewis.
Miss Vivi is a familiar name, but never heard of Karen Lewis before.
I have bought a few of Karen's kits. Her stuff at half off is worth a look.
I wonder if Karen Lewis is just retiring in general. She left TDC only a year or so ago, right?
Her blog and/or newsletter (can't remember exactly) said she was going to sell her digi scrapbook stuff, along with other kinds of design (?) on Etsy. She didn't elaborate on what other kinds of things she would be doing or I missed it which is entirely possible! Don't know if she was at TDC a year or so ago..didn't become aware of her until she was at SBG.
198-I'm not 197, but I see her point. I agree it's undignified because things like that should be private between the designer and the applicant. It looks like they are groveling.
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That's because some of them are. KCB does wonderful work and I've bought lots of her work, however, I still can't understand the whole CT allure. Never will. Cudos to those who do it though. I enjoy looking at your pages!
I still can't understand the whole CT allure.
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^^^ I'd rather pay full price any day for a kit (or wait for a sale). All that butt kissing to the designer HAS to be exhausting; it's just not my nature to glorify someone for simply doing his/her job.
It looks like they are groveling.
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A lot of them ARE! It's sickening.
197 - How is it undignified? And with an attitude like yours, I'm sure they don't need or want someone like you. Thanks.
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I'm not 197 but I agree. It's like publicly requesting people to beg for a spot and it's kinda sad actually. It's also a LOT of FREE advertising for the designer to do a ct call that way.
Lol - okay y'all. I suppose I understand your point about the public-ness of it, but I don't see it as a negative thing. I've helped a couple designers do CT calls before, and the public ones like this are quick and easy to do compared to dealing with a TON of emails. You have all the examples right there to see at a quick glance. I don't see it as groveling, but then I love her work and would LOVE to be on her CT. Just don't have time for it right now. Have fun disagreeing with her method. I'm sure you wouldn't be a good fit for her team anyways. Cheers!
Have fun disagreeing with her method. I'm sure you wouldn't be a good fit for her team anyways. Cheers!
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It's "anyway." I hope you don't journal like that. If you do, seems like you wouldn't be a good fit either. Cheers!
I've helped a couple designers do CT calls before, and the public ones like this are quick and easy to do compared to dealing with a TON of emails.
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I've done a few ct calls myself and no matter how much "work" it was to do it privately, I did it as do most of my colleagues. It just seems more professional that way. To me, that's part of a designer's job (or whomever she designates/compensates to help) to go through "ALL those e-mails" regardless of how much work it is.
I don't see it as groveling, but then I love her work and would LOVE to be on her CT.
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Save YOUR groveling for the public forum at SSD. butt kissing is wasted here.
2 designers leaving SBG
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Designers leave there all the time.
I'd rather pay full price any day for a kit (or wait for a sale). All that butt kissing to the designer HAS to be exhausting; it's just not my nature to glorify someone for simply doing his/her job.
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I've been on plenty of CTs and have never had to butt kiss anyone.
Why do designers guest at other stores? What's the purpose and how is it beneficial to both the store and the designer? Thanks.
What an undignified way to hold a CT call
http://www.sweetshoppecommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71829
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It's not the first time a designer has done a call like this. In fact, guest spots in a lot of places were often conducted like this
I've been on plenty of CTs and have never had to butt kiss anyone.
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Likewise, but, I've seen plenty who have.
It's not the first time a designer has done a call like this. In fact, guest spots in a lot of places were often conducted like this
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Not one person said it was the first time this has been done. That doesn't make it any less unprofessional.
I thought some sounded like they were groveling especially when they talked about their Friday nights. Is a free kit that important that you would commit all your Friday nights?
I've been on plenty of CTs and have never had to butt kiss anyone.
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What some perceive as butt kissing and groveling may be "just bein' friendly" to you. Whatever you call it, if you're doing it, it's sickening.
2 designers leaving SBG
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Designers leave there all the time.
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There are designers that stay there a long time too. Neither one of those two designers seemed to be doing very much of anything. Never heard of Karen Lewis and I thought missvivi retired long ago as there has been nothing new from her in ages.
I thought some sounded like they were groveling especially when they talked about their Friday nights. Is a free kit that important that you would commit all your Friday nights?
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I agree. Some of them sounded so needy, I was embarrassed for them.
Is a free kit that important that you would commit all your Friday nights?
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Not even a little bit..I really wonder about people sometimes.
What some perceive as butt kissing and groveling may be "just bein' friendly" to you. Whatever you call it, if you're doing it, it's sickening.
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Oh, it's you again. You have an extremely warped view of the world.
There are designers that stay there a long time too.
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Agreed and they are probably the only ones making any real money; but a lot of designers have also left there to go elsewhere.
You have an extremely warped view of the world.
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LOL!
That doesn't make it any less unprofessional.
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I don't see it is unprofessional. It's just a call, what's the big deal.
I agree it's undignified because things like that should be private between the designer and the applicant.
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Yes, because CT layouts are so private and never get published.
Yes, because CT layouts are so private and never get published.
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You're missing the point. You are SO missing it, I don't even know how to begin to explain it to you. Good thing I don't WANT to!
It's just a call, what's the big deal.
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That's just it. It's not a big deal, at all. The way it's presented, however, appears to make it one.
You're missing the point. You are SO missing it, I don't even know how to begin to explain it to you. Good thing I don't WANT to!
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Not missing the point, just don't see it as being that big of a deal.
It's not a big deal, at all. The way it's presented, however, appears to make it one.
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Agreed, the way it's presented on this blog does make it seem like a big deal.
I feel calls should be private too. That way a) we aren't all privy to the grovelling and desperation and b) we aren't all privy to who does NOT get chosen.
I am a designer and I can see right through grovelling and but kissing and don't put those people on my team. I only put people on my team I genuinely like working with - it's a small team but it's a fantastic team.
I don't require eqo-boosting from them.
I only saw a few in the KCB call thread that were a bit shameless and one even admitted she was begging. Most just seem excited and are customers or fans. I don't see anything wrong with saying, "hey I'm a customer and I love your work enough to buy it."
Most of the pages submitted are pretty decent, but there are definitely some stinkers. Shouldn't be tough to weed those out.
Look, if it had been done at MSA, DSA or DST or one of those places, then I'd agree it's a bit unprofessional, but doing the call on home turf where your fans and customers are seems reasonable to me.
I feel calls should be private too. That way a) we aren't all privy to the grovelling and desperation and b) we aren't all privy to who does NOT get chosen.
I am a designer and I can see right through grovelling and but kissing and don't put those people on my team. I only put people on my team I genuinely like working with - it's a small team but it's a fantastic team.
I don't require eqo-boosting from them.
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^^^this^^^
Maybe that kind of call has been done a lot but think about it. If you're not picked, then you're kind of publicly humiliated - because everyone who applied is on the thread.
I applied and have no problem doing so in public. If not chosen, I wouldn't feel embarrassed at all. I'd think it's because she only had so many spots and didn't feel I was right for one of them. No shame for me in that.
If you're not picked, then you're kind of publicly humiliated -
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Only if you are inclined that way. Wouldn't bother me in the least. It's like a competition, there can only be so many winners.
If not chosen, I wouldn't feel embarrassed at all. I'd think it's because she only had so many spots and didn't feel I was right for one of them. No shame for me in that.
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Exactly.
Those who applied in the thread are apparently okay with the method so I don't see why others should feel bothered by that. It's all about the designer and her fans. The way I see it, guest CTs are for giving back to fans anyway. (Conditions stated clearly that you have to post layouts with her products.) Since they are all fans, compliments to the designer are natural. I'm talking in general here as I've never been her customer. Not my scrapping style.
I wouldn't apply to a public call. Not that I'm humiliated when I'm not picked, but that doesn't mean I want to make a show of it, either.
Now Thaty? Is SO a designer killer or what? How many designers have they killed over the past few years. I wonder if they are really difficult to work with.
Yep
I'm the original poster about the public ct call. I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought it was undignified. To those that thought it was fine, that's fine too--go for it. I didn't bring it up to make it a controversy at all. I just wrote my opinion. I can still do that. I'll stay with the ladies that treat me with dignity though. I've never bought any of her kits. Her store looks good though. I just dislike her way of choosing a CT.
I'd love to have a couple CT's for no reason other than I'm spending waaaay to much money lately on artwork. I think I'm a pretty good scrapper but there is NO way I'm comfortable enough putting my application page on an open board for everyone to judge. But that's just me. I'm a little more shy like that. I wasn't familiar with her. I like her stuff when I looked in the store but I don't think I could do the call. I hope that she picks a some people who already don't have a gazillion stores. Carrie1977 and CarolinaScrapper, and others ... let some others have a chance. I'm sure you aren't lacking in new content...
What's most obnoxious about the CT call is the "Must be able to scrap Friday nights, as Kristin is usually working till the last minute" part. Get your shit together and get stuff to your CT with more than a few hours notice.
48 CarolinaScrapper is a pirate from the site baby gaga. I hope she doesn't get picked. So is a girl named Amanda Yi.
Now Thaty? Is SO a designer killer or what? How many designers have they killed over the past few years. I wonder if they are really difficult to work with.
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People on this blog are quick to assume that it is the site's fault when designers leave the top stores. Maybe some of these people simply can't compete with the best designers in top stores. Maybe they don't fulfill the obligations they agreed to and were asked to leave. Maybe they just thought that they would move in to a top store and expect the money to start flowing without having to put in an effort. Top stores are not about to keep people who are falling short. If they did they may end up turning into a store where there are only one or two designers putting out product and everyone on here complaining about that.
I would expect a store like SO to have a business minded approach and kick people out who are not pulling their weight. Thaty didn't do anything the entire time she was at SO. She uploaded her old products and that was pretty much the end of her activity.
Totally agree 51. I think one of the reasons that SO was so quiet was that Thaty and some of the other newer designers weren't doing anything. Bella Gypsy usually produces weekly but most of the other designers do releases every other week. Chelle, for example does a little something every week, but her big kit/collections are once or twice a month. It was very noticeable that some of the designers weren't putting stuff out. Sorry to see Thaty go, but she didn't do anything in the forums, there was no interaction with her and nothing new. Sorry to see that she had to move and had personal stuff come up. It is too bad that she didn't say something before. Traci Stroud, I think made an announcement to the effect that some personal stuff was happening so she was going to lay low for a bit, but she was coming back. That's cool. It's good to know she wasn't disappearing. As a customer, after hearing something like that, I'm inclined to go check out her store and see if there was anything in there that I might like so I could help her out with a little $$. Emily Card just had a baby, totally get that she's slowed down a bit. Also one of the BG girl's had a baby too.
^^ some do put out other stuff. Like Suzy Q and the template designers, but I mean BIG kits and such (btw i'm 52)
59- Wtf is a pirate from the baby gaga site?!
59 - how do you know these 2 are pirates? I am on CTs with these 2 I think I should let the designer know but I need more proof. If so, this is HORRIBLE!
48 -- Carrie1977 and CarolinaScrapper, and others ... let some others have a chance. I'm sure you aren't lacking in new content...
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Honestly I don't even bother applying when I see people like these two apply (in a public call, or when they say they sent their app in). Isn't 20 teams enough?
And I seriously think that sometimes, designers don't actually look at the applicant galleries -- they just offer spots to those who are "well known"...they're on so many teams, they must be good...right?
54 - Wtf is a pirate from the baby gaga site?!
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Baby Gaga is a parenting website (I Googled lol). And pirating, as in sharing kits. Search for "kit trade" or "swap kit" and you'll find a bunch of topics. They all look old though, which I guess is a good thing.
No idea if any of the posters are CarolinaScrapper or this Amanda chick though.
Here is who I would choose based upon who has applied already:
Milmomma
newfiemountiewife
catgoddess
Sherri Tierney
breakingbrie
aballen
hollyxann
joelsgirl
Lisa_mommy2Two
Starlight-Princess
I based my choices on # of teams and quality of scrapping along with a mix of styles. I wouldn't choose anyone who "freelances" for someone. If they can't commit to others now, why would I think they could commit to me as a designer? Stupid.
I also wouldn't choose anyone who has never CTed before. Guest spots are done for the extra promotion in short chunks. I want scrappers who know what that means without having to hand hold.
There were also a few who didn't fill out their apps completely, so I didn't consider them since KCB said she would consider them, either.
I don't know how many spots she's filling, but those would be the scrappers I'd choose from.
... said she wouldn't. typo!
but it's only for a 2 month spot. ???
I think 58 needs too do a little more research. For example hollyxann freelances for Libby over at Sweet Shoppe. I know this is I am on Libby's CT. I also have a feeling that you are either Laura or Traci.
Just curious, are any of you willing to share how you found this smack blog? I saw it mentioned in a thread at DST when all the drama was going down there a few months back. Other than that, I've never heard anyone talk about it. Kind of curious how well known it is and how many are really reading here.
#62 Me too!!
Am I the only one who buys something only when it's on sale?
Does anyone ever buy something at regular price?
And when I say sale I mean at least 30%
It's just I buy many things and want many more so the less money I spend the more digi products I get.
#62 it's the digiworld's dirty little secret! I think everyone reads here and no one ever talks about it!
If no one's talking about it how do people know about it?
I think people slip and admit they read here when there is something particularly juicy or personal.
Alright, I'll give it up.
I have a LOT of people tell me they read here... I'm safe, because you all already know that I'm around, and I won't judge. I would venture to say that at least 75% of the people I know in the industry have openly talked to me about what they read here, and I bet that there are more reading here who haven't discussed it with me.
I agree with 65.
55, I'm 50. Carolina Scrapper used to share kits under the name "Lola" on baby gaga. I don't think she does anymore...at least not publicly. Her gallery at Scrap Orchard has a lot of the siggies that she used on baby gaga that's how I know its the same person. I don't have a link to her profile right at this moment but I'll post it later when I'm available to search for it.
And Amanda Yi is a friend of CarolinaScrapper (Christine is her name). They're both on baby gaga. They both digiscrap. So I'm just ASSuming for her...you are who your friends are. You know?
Another designer told me about years ago. But it was the old blog, which was way more interesting actually. But it wasn't divided into months so posts ran for a long time.
Here's the url. It still has all of the old posts going back to 2008.
http://dsthof.blogspot.com/
61- I'm 58. Sorry I missed hollyxann's freelance spot. I would remove her from my list. I am definitely not Laura or Traci.
Ugh! I just went to SO to look for some inspiration layouts for a kit I bought months ago. I can't find anything with that new scrap pin set up. I hate it!!
#72 I agree it sucks I haven't been shopping at SO as much since they switched but it must be working for some because they seem to be sticking with it oh well there are lots of other stores out there that I think are more user friendly
*Lola* on baby gaga is now *soa*bitch
And thus ladies and gents why you should not be putting anything up line. If you google "baby gaga" kit swap lol, the *soa* posts come up and you can tell that the original username was *lola*. I only spent about 2 minutes googling and reading, but going by the husband's name, kids, and town of residence:
a) it is her.
b) she was indeed swapping kits on baby gaga
OK copyright experts - what do you think of this lawsuit... a yoga teacher (Bikram - "hot" yoga) suing other yoga studios for teaching the same sequence of asanas that he does. I personally don't think he can win, but he seems confident. What do you think?
blogs.yogajournal.com/yogabuzz/2011/12/bikram-sues-yoga-to-the-people.html
I've been reading one version or another of the smack blog since about 2006/2007.
CarolinaScrapper on Baby Gaga is/was also Maaa, but I'm not how recent that name is.
75 Carolina Scrapper is not Maaa.
But I do want to point out another friend of Carolina Scrapper.
http://members.baby-gaga.com/member696172
is:
http://www.digishoptalk.com/boards/showthread.php?t=313842
Lola Carolina Scrapper Swapping Kits:
http://forum.p.baby-gaga.com/about1470473.html
76 - sorry, my bad.
77 - those could be her own kits, it doesn't prove anything since I can't access the PB account and see what's there.
75- jward or cassel?
And pardon me- but I don't get it. How do you know she's friends with carolinascrapper-
And what's the big whoop?
80 - what do you mean by jward or cassel? I'm #75 and don't get your question and I never mentioned anything about being friend with anyone. Are you talking to #76?
I meant Jward and you will see she's a friend of carolinascrapper if you look a little for yourself rather than everyone else do it for you.
http://forum.baby-gaga.com/about2165963.html
79 Considering she's never designed a kit in her life, I doubt they're her own kits. =/ And I'm sure the people she's swapping with aren't swapping kits they made as well.
Again Lola offering to swap kits:
http://forum.baby-gaga.com/about1544725.html
And another where she is looking to trade for one of Flergs kits.
http://forum.baby-gaga.com/about1516805.html
79 Don't be naive.
Isnt baby gaga the site aly was a part of? Funny how everyone can find all these trade/pirate links from carolinascrapper but could find none of aly when she asked when she was accused. Maybe she wasn't a pirate after all. Sucks that it was said about her.
79 Don't be naive.
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I'm not being naive, I just said it wasn't proof. Guessing and assuming is not proof.
86 - who the hell cares?
87 it isntt guessing or Assuming if she is clearly trying to trade for one of flergs kits in the link above
I see nothing that suggests Amanda Yi did anything wrong. I'm guessing Aly is trying to stir the pot with useless Baby Gaga info so people will forget about her.
#89 - it was guessing and assuming with the PB account which is what I'm talking about.
#90 - you'd be guessing wrong
I'm guessing Aly is trying to stir the pot with useless Baby Gaga info so people will forget about her.
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WTH are you talking about? Considering that no one was even talking about her why would she stir the pot to make people forget about her?
Bringing Baby Gaga up would be a stupid way to try to get people to forget about her.
Amanda Yi is posting in the thread about designer weekly contest. She is involved too.
Spot on #93.
#94- What thread? I didn't see her on Baby Gaga.
#93- For the simple fact noone found any proof she shared anything on Baby Gaga.
Aly's accounts on babygaga got deleted and banned so many times it's hard to trace her, but lots of those girls traded in other forums before there was a board for it on babygaga. The links for carolina scrapper are from 2010, do you have anything current? Just because someone WAS a pirate, doesn't mean they still ARE a pirate. Maybe she's on so many CT's because she found a legal way to get the kits she wants? I used to pirate music all the time and now with spotify and pandora I haven't had to do that in a few years. Or maybe she just didn't realize it was wrong? A lot of people who started out scrapping at Babygaga for the siggies just didn't understand why they couldn't trade kits.
90 I love Attention. Why would I want people to forget about me? And I read here often. I haven't been bought up in a while so I've been pretty much forgotten until now! So thanks!!!
And 86, I am not a pirate. Never was. People that don't like me just made it up I guess with no proof. It's whatever now. I really don't care anymore what people think as I'm no longer a designer or directly involved with this community except on a customer basis.
But I know CarolinaScrapper & JessicaW are pirates because they were actively involved in a thread where I told them that sharing is a no no.
http://forum.baby-gaga.com/about1573551-130.html
As well as a girl named Cassie. So if they're on your CT beware! Notice how they erased all their posts? So they wont incriminate themselves but the damage is already done.
97 You dont have to have a current account to find old posts. As long as I was quoted sharing, you will be able to find evidence of me doing so. Nothing has ever been found because it's not true. But obviously you are one of those people that think that I am the most horrible person in the world that everything bad said about me MUST be true so I'll let you keep thinking what you want. Like I said before, it doesn't matter to me anymore. Lol. I'm merely a customer and there isn't anything you can do about that...pirate or not. :)
96 I don't recall anyone looking for her sharing on baby gaga//they were looking for carolinascrapper but from what I remember, Amanda Yi is a member of baby gaga but she wasn't involved in the kit sharing in that thread. But I haven't been on baby gaga for a while so who knows. From experience I can tell you that just because you are a member there doesn't mean you're a pirate. But people will think whatever they want. :D
That's the reason they include the preview. Rich.
Like I said before, it doesn't matter to me anymore.
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If it didn't matter, you wouldn't keep coming back denying the allegations every single time they are brought up.
101 Not true. Maybe that applies to you but it doesn't apply to me. I don't give a fuck what anyone thinks!
...But that doesn't mean I'm not going to say what I did and did not do. I can say it until I'm blue in the face....because I can. Doesn't mean peoples opinions matter to me.
101 In other words, the attention I get from coming back is more important to me than attempting to make people believe that I don't care.
I can sit here and say I'm not a pirate all night....not because I care what you anonymous bozos think but because I'm bored as fucks! Get it now? Good.
101 Oh please shut the fuck up with the talk like you actually know me enough to say what I "would do".
If you did know me, you would know that I get more satisfaction from the arguing and the attention than I do from ignoring the stupid statements, gossip and rumors said here about me.
I'd rather sit here all day if I'm bored as fuck like now and argue than to ignore you anonymous bozos and let you think that I don't care.
#102 - babe, you are the one saying you don't care, not me. Besides, it's logic that if you didn't care, you wouldn't keep coming back, it has nothing to do with knowing you personally or not.
102 I never said that you said that I don't care...babe. And there's a difference between actually giving a fuck and just being here to talk shit for the sake of it. I'm just here to talk shit...again, likee I said, I do not give a fuck what you or any of your anonymous buddies think.
-Aly
And there's a difference between actually giving a fuck and just being here to talk shit for the sake of it. I'm just here to talk shit..
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But the funny thing is, you only seem to turn up when your name is mentioned.
#105 and that's why the older readers of this fine blog DONT mention her, cause she only comes when named, bit like Rumplestiskin...
#62 I found the blog about 6yrs ago. I forget what "crisis" was going on at the time but I think that I stumbled over it at DST. Im just a customer, although I did do some Ct work many years ago. So its my guilty little pleasure and I do glean lots of useful tidbits for sales, great kits, great designers etc especially who to avoid quality wise. My all time favourite thread was "Simons Reviews" those were very informative. Come back Simon
she only comes when named, bit like Rumplestiskin...
ROTFLMAO! Good one!
105 why wouldi come back to talk about anything else but me? I reaally don't care about what designer is using disney or what store is ripping off what designer. But hey....you know mee soooo much better than I know myself! I guess I do care what is said about me.....because you say I do. Boo fucking woo.
-aly
101 Oh please shut the fuck up with the talk like you actually know me enough to say what I "would do".
If you did know me, you would know that I get more satisfaction from the arguing and the attention than I do from ignoring the stupid statements, gossip and rumors said here about me.
I'd rather sit here all day if I'm bored as fuck like now and argue than to ignore you anonymous bozos and let you think that I don't care.
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I don't know you from Adam, but I'm embarrassed for you. It's so obvious you do care what people say and think about you. To come on here, using your name and making a fool of yourself, is very brazen...and stupid.
105 why would I come back to talk about anything else but me?
-aly
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There's no doubt in my mind that even though you're obviously massively insecure, that you are your fave subject. Just remember, you're probably pretty alone in that thinking.
110 Don't feel embarrased for me. :) None of you will ever meet me or really know me. Thank God.
But like I said, there's a difference between caring and just being bored. Learn it. Until you do, I will agree with you to make you happy and say I care.......
I do care :( poor poor me
-aly
If you knew me...you'd know that I'm far from insecure. Lol. FAR. At most I'd say my life is pretty uneventful at this moment as I'm on bedrest for my pregnancy. But since you say I am insecure, I guess I am...
And I dare to be different. It gets boring thinking and being the same as everyone else. so I'm perfectly fine knowing that I'm alone in thinking a certain way.
-Aly
Aand I don't come back everytime I'm bought up. Someone made a failed attempt to bring me up last month sometime...wondering where I was. I saw it....I was just too busy to respond.
-aly
Charly wasn't one of the winners of the Designer Darling contest at Stuff to Scrap.
If you knew me...you'd know that I'm far from insecure. Lol. FAR
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Riiiigggghhhhttttt.
#115
How shocking!
No one cares if you're insecure. They just don't like you because you are caustic and full of venom.
115 - But she still got offered a position - what a joke.
115 - Thanks for changing the subject. All the Aly crap is BOOO-RING!
#119: She got offered a position? What's she doing there?
121 - She'll be a designer. Apparently they don't care who sells there anymore.
119 - But she still got offered a position - what a joke.
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And that is exactly the reason why I won't be accepting the position they offered me. I've been burned by her once already, I refuse to let it happen again. STS obviously doesn't know about who she really is...or they just don't care, which is sad.
Didn't everyone get offered a position in the STS contest though? Not just Charly?
How does anyone know who got offered a position if not yourself? Was there a public announcement for it? Or is Charly already in the designer list?
I posted what she had done in the past. It was deleted. They know, but they just.don't.care.
Who in their right mind would want to design there anyway? Commission from what I've heard is 60-65%.
If Picolla accepts, that would be tragic. She owns a store. Why would she want to design there?
125 - How does anyone know who got offered a position if not yourself? Was there a public announcement for it? Or is Charly already in the designer list?
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The email I received stated we were all being offered a spot. So much for a real "winner".
126 - Who in their right mind would want to design there anyway? Commission from what I've heard is 60-65%.
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I didn't even open the contract, so I didn't know that. Makes taking the position that much easier.
I made decent money at STS, not tons or anything, but ok. I left because Nicole has zero ethics and she's unpleasant to work for. It doesn't surprise me at all that she'd take on Charly.
126 Picolina sold the store a while ago. Get your facts straight.
126 I really wish I knew who you were so I can avoid you. I have a feeling you are La Belle Vie.
126 Incorrect. You are really wrong on ALL your "facts".
Stuff To Scrap Commision
Exclusive – 80/20%
Non Exclusive (1 other venue and/or own store) – 75/25%
Guest (month by month basis) – 70/30%
Who would you rather design for? Stuff To Scrap or Scrap Take Out?
Serious Question Lol. I am just curious which one is worse.
#132 - Not the OP but she wasn't wrong about STS not caring, so not wrong on all the facts, n'est pas?
Who would you rather design for? Stuff To Scrap or Scrap Take Out?
Serious Question Lol. I am just curious which one is worse.
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Serious answer, I don't know as I don't know either store except for being mentioned on here. Before then, I never heard of them.
STORE by a mile.
DYAC. That was supposed to be STO.
Definitely STO
126 I really wish I knew who you were so I can avoid you. I have a feeling you are La Belle Vie.
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No, 126 is not me. I will say that 123, 127 & 128 are me, but 126 is not. As I said I didn't even open the contract, so I had no idea about commission lol
I am 119 and I knew she had been offered a position because I read it in the forum at STS.
http://stufftoscrap.com/forums/showthread.php?13440-Designer-Darling-Results
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WTF is the point of having a contest if you're going to offer all finalists a spot? Some of those final round kits were shitty.
Frankly, if they're going to welcome her on board, they get what they deserve.
139 Either way I figured you were here. You were also the one that "dished" on PDP weren't you? You can't be trusted with information. Like I said, I will be doing everything to avoid you especially now that you have confessed to being La Belle Vie. It is quite obvious you have no problems dishing on anything and anyone. You should take the spot on Stuff To Scrap because you are going to have a hard time getting into stores now. Good Luck.
142 - No, I wasn't the one who "dished" on PDP...what was the dish anyway, that they weren't re-opening? Because that was public knowledge (STS forum) before it was brought up here.
Yes, I am here. Yes, I read and sometimes comment. Most designers/store owners do. I just choose to be honest about it. I haven't "dished" about anyone or anything. I haven't made any comments regarding anything that wasn't already stated here or anywhere else, to say otherwise is completely untrue.
STO has shitty products. Even when they're only $1 I can't find anything to buy.
They hold a contest because it gets them traffic, not because they are looking for new designers (all they have to do is go to DST or FB and offer positions to designers if that is what they want.
I am not at all surprised Nicole deleted a thread about what Charly was up to - she did the same with the Miss Tiina copyright stuff ... she got really huffy about it all being 'high school gossip'
I always thought gossip was the stuff that wasn't true that you said just to hurt people, not the stuff that is true that you tell people to warn them.
La Belle Vie - Why would any store want someone who can't come up with their own ideas?
https://scraporchard.com/market/My-Sunshine-Digital-Scrapbook-Kit.html
http://scrapable.co/store/Keep-Your-Head-Up.html
I was going to say that a rainbow kit wasn't very groundbreaking, but the element placement and similar patterns are pretty similar.
Damn.
Yeah, the preview is too similar to be a coincidence.
Is anything really original these days though? I'd buy Megan's anyway...
Its not about being original. She downright copied
Yes but it's not copyrighted or anything. Megan doesn't own those colors or concepts. But it does look bad.
Holy crap. Usually when people post someone's "copy" I sit here thinking it could be a coincidence or that the people are stirring. But this time... it's like La Belle Vie went out of her way to make them look the same.
The similarity in those previews is disturbing, but that color palette has been pretty popular lately. At least if you're going to rip someone off, don't make the preview nearly identical...
If I had to choose between Stuff To Scrap or Scrap Take Out, I'd pick Scrap Take Out.
I do shop at STO and actually got a few overlays today that I liked and I like their 365 collection.
Didn't Megan's come out second?
#155 - um, no. Megan released her kit in August 2012 (and it was re-release) while La Belle Vie released her's in January 2013. Are you thinking of Megan's Little Miss Sunshine kit?
155 No it did not. I was on Megan's CT when her kit first came out and I haven't CTed in over a year.
Megan's Came out May 2012 originally.
http://www.designsbymeganturnidge.com/blog/?p=1486
La Belle Vie's Came out March 1, 2013 or January 3, 2013...not sure which way Scrapable does their dates.
http://scrapable.co/store/Keep-Your-Head-Up.html
154-I also shop at STO. I've loved some of the things I've gotten there. And everybody there has always been nice to me.
Holy cow 146 that is shocking! That she arranged her preview so closely to Megan's is the shocking part WOW brazen copying makes it very clear that she created the kit as a duplicate of Megan's. I would not buy from her if she priced it all at 25 cents.
I simply wouldn't buy it because the recolors are hideous
Oh wow. I had loved La Belle Vie's last kit in the Designer Darling contest. But that does look like a copy of Megan's kit.
Like I said La Belle Vie, go to Stuff to Scrap because no other store is going to want you.
Seriously? I don't think that they are that similar. Megan's is much prettier.
If you compare the placement of the elements on the two previews, they are creepily similar. Clouds in the same spot? Check. Sun? Check. Flowers, with leaves placed just so? Check.
163 You've got to be kiDding me.........
I've seen stuff like this before and here's what I don't get... do people like La Belle Vie think they aren't going to get caught blatantly copying like that?!?!?
Is there a legally filed copyright on Megan's kit? No. We all know it's too cost prohibitive for us to really pay to copyright our work. But, will something like this create a very bad reputation in like half a heartbeat? You BET it will, and it should.
La Belle Vie, did your mama forget to teach you that winners never cheat? I hope Scrap Orchard makes a big, dramatic, federal case of your blatant copying. You deserve it.
There is absolutely nothing illegal about copying. Bad taste? Maybe, but the idea of the original kit is hardly original.
There is nothing Scrap Orchard could, or should, do in this case.
It's fine to point her out here or anywhere else, because her actions are merely frowned upon. Nothing more.
There is absolutely nothing illegal about copying. Bad taste? Maybe, but the idea of the original kit is hardly original.
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This.
163 it is not just a matter of both designers having a similar theme and colors and that both kits happened to look similar, clearly La Belle Vie created her kit as a copy of Megan's and even was brazen enough to copy the preview......... Now is it illegal? No. Is it unethical? Absolutely. Store owners should be very wary of being associated with her because as a customer I would steer a wide berth around any store she is selling in.
^^ Exactly.
Who said anything about illegal? No one.
Who said anything about illegal? No one.
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No one said anyone said it was illegal.
No one said anyone said it was illegal.
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So why are there a bunch of posts talking about it? Seems odd to me.
How do we even know that that was la belle vie?
They didn't post from a named account. I bet it is actually a frenemy or someone carrying an axe
So why are there a bunch of posts talking about it? Seems odd to me.
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It seems odd to you that people are talking about someone who obviously copied a kit from someone else? Have you been reading here long? That's precisely the type of topic frequently posted here.
174 I'm the one that originally suspected her and I know for sure it was her responding. Its your choice to believe me or not. But I stand by what I say........I know its her. She can't be trusted. She seems to like drama. She copies kits. I'm avoiding her.
133- i would go to STO as well...everyone is nice and I like a couple of the designers stuffs there
157- holy hell! even the flower placements are the same!
that's bad form
Someone should go through the rest of her store and she if she copied any other kits. Does Bev know about this?
176 - Yeah but how do you know its actually her? Surely you must have a reason.
189 said:Store owners should be very wary of being associated with her because as a customer I would steer a wide berth around any store she is selling in.
I don't think many people shop at that store anymore, so it probably won't be noticed. Too bad because it used to be a nice place.
I looked at her other stuff and didn't see anything. One that looked like a Bella Gypsy color palette, a little, but nothing as blatant. That rainbow kit is easily the best thing in her shop and Megan's is still way better.
On the STO/STS thing, they're both dumpy shops, but STO looks nicer and Jen's never been unethical to me. Nicole on the other hand...
180 I do have a reason to think it is her.
I know you are probably going to hate but I chose to keep this reason to myself. But she made it pretty obvious to ME that it IS La Belle Vie. It is okay if you don't believe me but I know.
181 No offense to anyone but Bev is a horrible store owner. every Since Modern June left, the place has been a dump. Reminds me of her old store...Digiscrapbookmania....another trash store.
OMG. PDP is closing for good. Finally.
So no real reason 183. If you're so sure, it shouldn't be a problem to state why...unless it's bullshit.
Yeah, PDP is closing for good. And those of us who were stupid enough to still be subscribed to their newsletter were treated to a SPAM email today, advertising all the new ventures that Amy and Pamela are off to. Terribly tacky.
185- i had an email too.
It seems odd to you that people are talking about someone who obviously copied a kit from someone else?
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Um no, I was specially talking about the illegal posts, that's odd, it usually doesn't come up like that.
What store is PDP?
#190 - Polk Dot Plum - are you new here?
186 If you say so. You can't bully me into giving you a reason. I can't give a reason without revealing my identity. So like I said I'll keep it to myself. If you want to think its bullshit, so be it. :) You'll get over it.
Bev has her own issues with copying products from other designers.
I found this amazing wall decal a while ago (5 months) on Etsy but it was sold out.
http://media-cache-ec4.pinterest.com/736x/77/7e/8a/777e8a739771daa8a7d0b1c5c5bf55d2.jpg
A few days ago I bought this kit from Tracy Martin Designs. It has the same birds.
http://www.oscraps.com/shop/product.php?productid=33175&cat=632&page=2
Can someone tell me if I can blow up the digital images to that size and make them wall stickers? Will they be clear?
I want to know why it's so amazing? It's just a bunch of birds, easy enough to reproduce in Illustrator or Photoshop.
If you blow the birds up in the kit, they are going to look awful, mostly because they are shiny 'plastic' bird stickers instead of flat stickers.
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